Conroe Mac Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm interested in trying Arcanis, but I'm not sure how to go about it. I would have to load the operating system first. I'm guessing you'd have to do that through USB and VMWare? My board is the same: Gigabyte 965P-DS3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanis Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Yeah, or installing the disk on a system where osx86 can be installed, edit the device id's on the IntelPixx kext and then put back the drive on the 965P system. Can't try it out by myself since I can't format my laptop disk now, but when I'll be able to do it I will install OSx86 and then put the laptop disk on my desktop to try if it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopazBar Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Please report if this combination works with both cores in OSX86! I tried Asrock Conroe945G-DVI and Pentium D 930 and got terrible stuttering all the time when both cores were enabled (it was fine with only one core). I switched to my good old Asus P5LD2-VM and now both cores of 930 are working fine. I wonder what caused it, both boards have the 945 chipset? I'm sorry to hear that. Yes, I will report as soon as my box is setup. Hopely UPS won't screw things up for me... Meanwhile here are two threads that may interest u: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...l=conroe945-dvi http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...l=conroe945-dvi BTW, what version of OSX are u running? Execute this command for me in a terminal "strings -a /mach_kernel | grep MAXX" and post the results here. I want to see what kind of kernel patches u have applied. I don't want to see AMD_enabler and SSE3-emulator patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zam Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 BTW, what version of OSX are u running?Execute this command for me in a terminal "strings -a /mach_kernel | grep MAXX" and post the results here. I want to see what kind of kernel patches u have applied. I don't want to see AMD_enabler and SSE3-emulator patch. I installed from the Jas 10.4.6 DVD, checking only the "base system" and "SSE3" options. I don't have the exact installation on the hard disk any more to investigate on the kernel, but when I was searching for a solution, I even installed the old 10.4.3 8f1111 - but it had the same stuttering! Only way to smooth performance was to issue the "cpus=1" boot paremeter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbeehre Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 so what is the status with the 965p Chipset? anyone been having a go with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberJunker Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Hi all I bought one Gigabyte 965P-DS4 (really nice card) but I was not informed that the ICH8 was not supported(yet I hope…) by MacOS X. I tryed to install OSX by WMWARE on my iPod and boot it up (the mobo allow me to boot usb device) but I did not managed yet I want to try Arcanis proposal but I don't know how to do such thing ? Tried to add the 0x28258086 and 0x28208086 device id to the intel ata drivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberJunker Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Could someone send me the modified AppleIntelPIIXATA.kext ? thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miramar Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I've been testing the Asrock ConroeXfire-eSata2 m/b with a Conroe 6600 for a few days now, at first with JaS 10.4.6 and now with the new JaS 10.4.7 DVD. I'm glad to report that most things work. USB & SATA all OK. Onboard firewire (TI chipset) worked out of the box. The exceptions are: 1) Sound (ALC888) which was rectified by a little bit of plist editing. It's now working with stereo out through the proper green jack but input does not work and I have not tried the front panel. 2) Onboard GBLan (RTL8111B) does not work but this was expected. Dare we hope for drivers from Realtek? 3) Logitech Premium Headset 350 works if Soundblaster USB Audio is selected during installation. This m/b has 2 external SATA connectors and both work with the Coolermaster X Craft USB2/eSata enclosure. I have not tried hot plugging it yet in OS X but hotplugging works fine in WinXP. MSI 1600pro PCI-e works with the boris method but single monitor only via digital DVI with QE/CI, res change & rotation. Sleep not tested. Hmm, I wonder what will happen if I put in another PCI-e card. I have a spare X300 which I can try. Here's hoping for dual monitors. I also bought a new mouse for my new hackintosh. It's the Razer Pro v1.6 which comes with unibin OS X drivers. I have just plugged it in and it works. I'll will try out the drivers tomorrow. The keyboard is my old MS Internet Keyboard Pro which works great with the latest unibin Intellitype drivers from Microsoft. The last thing to do now is to get the network up. I will probly use the DLink DGE-530T with skge.kext or a generic RTL8139 if I can find one. Once I've got that up, I plan to run some benchmarks. I'm looking forward to that. Before I sign off, I'd just like to say that I think this Asrock m/b is great value for money with all its features. Pair this with a Conroe or even a Pentium D and they make a great PiCantosh. mir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted August 23, 2006 Author Share Posted August 23, 2006 Thanks for the detailed report Miramar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceTea Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 Great summary!! Questions: What about overclocking? 3 GHz stable? Boot from firewire and/or eSATA running OSX possible? I've been testing the Asrock ConroeXfire-eSata2 m/b with a Conroe 6600 for a few days now, at first with JaS 10.4.6 and now with the new JaS 10.4.7 DVD. I'm glad to report that most things work. USB & SATA all OK. Onboard firewire (TI chipset) worked out of the box. The exceptions are: 1) Sound (ALC888) which was rectified by a little bit of plist editing. It's now working with stereo out through the proper green jack but input does not work and I have not tried the front panel. 2) Onboard GBLan (RTL8111B) does not work but this was expected. Dare we hope for drivers from Realtek? 3) Logitech Premium Headset 350 works if Soundblaster USB Audio is selected during installation. This m/b has 2 external SATA connectors and both work with the Coolermaster X Craft USB2/eSata enclosure. I have not tried hot plugging it yet in OS X but hotplugging works fine in WinXP. MSI 1600pro PCI-e works with the boris method but single monitor only via digital DVI with QE/CI, res change & rotation. Sleep not tested. Hmm, I wonder what will happen if I put in another PCI-e card. I have a spare X300 which I can try. Here's hoping for dual monitors. I also bought a new mouse for my new hackintosh. It's the Razer Pro v1.6 which comes with unibin OS X drivers. I have just plugged it in and it works. I'll will try out the drivers tomorrow. The keyboard is my old MS Internet Keyboard Pro which works great with the latest unibin Intellitype drivers from Microsoft. The last thing to do now is to get the network up. I will probly use the DLink DGE-530T with skge.kext or a generic RTL8139 if I can find one. Once I've got that up, I plan to run some benchmarks. I'm looking forward to that. Before I sign off, I'd just like to say that I think this Asrock m/b is great value for money with all its features. Pair this with a Conroe or even a Pentium D and they make a great PiCantosh. mir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miramar Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Bofors, you're welcome. I must thank you too as your tutorial for building an OSX86 box with the Pentium D was my inspiration & guide to completing my first osx box. As you can see from my .sig, I followed it almost exactly. Sammy, thanks, I have not tried overclocking. This Asrock m/b is considered weak in this respect as the highest FSB you can set in the BIOS is 350. So for an E6600, the max I can go for is 9*350=3.15Ghz which is still good if it's stable. Settings for memory timings seem complete. I'll have to check the BIOS again to see what cpu or ram voltage tweaking it allows. I have not tried booting from USB nor Firewire but the BIOS has a boot menu(by pressing F11 during POST) so I guess it should be possible. As for eSata, it should work as the 2 eSata connectors are actually connected to 2 of the onboard 4 SATA connectors via normal SATA cables. By default, HDs connected to eSATA show up as either primary or secondary slave. mir... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RapidEyE Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 MSI 1600pro PCI-e works with the boris method but single monitor only via digital DVI with QE/CI, res change & rotation. Sleep not tested. Hmm, I wonder what will happen if I put in another PCI-e card. I have a spare X300 which I can try. Here's hoping for dual monitors. Let us know ho this fairs, im interested in getting crossfire board, with dual x1xxx cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme43 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 with no disk test Results 278.05 System Info Xbench Version 1.3 System Version 10.4.6 (8I1119) Physical RAM 2048 MB Model ADP2,1 Drive Type Maxtor 6V300F0 CPU Test 178.89 GCD Loop 425.86 22.45 Mops/sec Floating Point Basic 205.47 4.88 Gflop/sec vecLib FFT 129.74 4.28 Gflop/sec Floating Point Library 134.45 23.41 Mops/sec Thread Test 360.22 Computation 327.37 6.63 Mops/sec, 4 threads Lock Contention 400.40 17.23 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads Memory Test 210.64 System 220.54 Allocate 164.26 603.21 Kalloc/sec Fill 251.00 12204.18 MB/sec Copy 283.19 5849.17 MB/sec Stream 201.59 Copy 187.54 3873.64 MB/sec Scale 193.91 4006.02 MB/sec Add 213.38 4545.44 MB/sec Triad 214.29 4584.15 MB/sec Quartz Graphics Test 259.89 Line 223.12 14.85 Klines/sec [50% alpha] Rectangle 274.40 81.92 Krects/sec [50% alpha] Circle 263.82 21.50 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha] Bezier 241.62 6.09 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha] Text 314.11 19.65 Kchars/sec OpenGL Graphics Test 301.29 Spinning Squares 301.29 382.20 frames/sec User Interface Test 770.08 Elements 770.08 3.53 Krefresh/sec with desk test I need RAID! Results 209.54 System Info Xbench Version 1.3 System Version 10.4.6 (8I1119) Physical RAM 2048 MB Model ADP2,1 Drive Type Maxtor 6V300F0 CPU Test 175.24 GCD Loop 425.92 22.45 Mops/sec Floating Point Basic 205.44 4.88 Gflop/sec vecLib FFT 122.36 4.04 Gflop/sec Floating Point Library 134.44 23.41 Mops/sec Thread Test 359.43 Computation 326.41 6.61 Mops/sec, 4 threads Lock Contention 399.88 17.20 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads Memory Test 216.14 System 234.32 Allocate 188.43 691.99 Kalloc/sec Fill 251.06 12206.95 MB/sec Copy 284.65 5879.34 MB/sec Stream 200.59 Copy 191.96 3964.84 MB/sec Scale 197.65 4083.29 MB/sec Add 203.88 4343.05 MB/sec Triad 209.76 4487.19 MB/sec Quartz Graphics Test 236.19 Line 223.50 14.88 Klines/sec [50% alpha] Rectangle 274.29 81.89 Krects/sec [50% alpha] Circle 263.82 21.50 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha] Bezier 243.15 6.13 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha] Text 194.34 12.16 Kchars/sec OpenGL Graphics Test 296.16 Spinning Squares 296.16 375.69 frames/sec User Interface Test 681.90 Elements 681.90 3.13 Krefresh/sec Disk Test 89.17 Sequential 97.47 Uncached Write 99.24 60.93 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 84.81 47.99 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 144.87 42.40 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 81.50 40.96 MB/sec [256K blocks] Random 82.18 Uncached Write 73.37 7.77 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 68.44 21.91 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 93.97 0.67 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 102.12 18.95 MB/sec [256K blocks] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuruu Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 with no disk testwith desk test I need RAID! Hey I have same board, how do you get a high score for the 'Random Uncached Write'? I'd really like to know! Running P5W DH with E6400 at 3.2GHz with X1600xt No disk test Results 228.39 System Info Xbench Version 1.3 System Version 10.4.6 (8I1119) Physical RAM 2048 MB Model ADP2,1 Drive Type ST380817AS CPU Test 157.11 GCD Loop 378.24 19.94 Mops/sec Floating Point Basic 181.85 4.32 Gflop/sec vecLib FFT 115.40 3.81 Gflop/sec Floating Point Library 115.59 20.13 Mops/sec Thread Test 313.57 Computation 286.96 5.81 Mops/sec, 4 threads Lock Contention 345.61 14.87 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads Memory Test 167.20 System 181.48 Allocate 145.93 535.91 Kalloc/sec Fill 235.85 11467.62 MB/sec Copy 183.90 3798.30 MB/sec Stream 155.00 Copy 150.46 3107.76 MB/sec Scale 149.19 3082.28 MB/sec Add 160.89 3427.36 MB/sec Triad 160.21 3427.30 MB/sec Quartz Graphics Test 225.93 Line 186.03 12.39 Klines/sec [50% alpha] Rectangle 237.21 70.82 Krects/sec [50% alpha] Circle 225.92 18.42 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha] Bezier 206.19 5.20 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha] Text 306.43 19.17 Kchars/sec OpenGL Graphics Test 254.51 Spinning Squares 254.51 322.87 frames/sec User Interface Test 420.04 Elements 420.04 1.93 Krefresh/sec with disk test. Disk is seagate. Results 157.27 System Info Xbench Version 1.3 System Version 10.4.6 (8I1119) Physical RAM 2048 MB Model ADP2,1 Drive Type ST380817AS CPU Test 153.02 GCD Loop 366.19 19.30 Mops/sec Floating Point Basic 175.49 4.17 Gflop/sec vecLib FFT 110.73 3.65 Gflop/sec Floating Point Library 115.22 20.06 Mops/sec Thread Test 298.91 Computation 265.37 5.38 Mops/sec, 4 threads Lock Contention 342.16 14.72 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads Memory Test 179.81 System 198.28 Allocate 157.37 577.93 Kalloc/sec Fill 228.48 11109.36 MB/sec Copy 227.31 4695.00 MB/sec Stream 164.49 Copy 169.66 3504.20 MB/sec Scale 172.62 3566.21 MB/sec Add 162.07 3452.52 MB/sec Triad 154.80 3311.46 MB/sec Quartz Graphics Test 221.31 Line 188.39 12.54 Klines/sec [50% alpha] Rectangle 232.24 69.33 Krects/sec [50% alpha] Circle 220.93 18.01 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha] Bezier 203.96 5.14 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha] Text 281.72 17.62 Kchars/sec OpenGL Graphics Test 248.28 Spinning Squares 248.28 314.96 frames/sec User Interface Test 510.61 Elements 510.61 2.34 Krefresh/sec Disk Test 53.87 Sequential 104.25 Uncached Write 104.06 63.89 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 93.10 52.68 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 119.29 34.91 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 103.78 52.16 MB/sec [256K blocks] Random 36.32 Uncached Write 13.05 1.38 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 65.54 20.98 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 94.55 0.67 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 130.54 24.22 MB/sec [256K blocks] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miramar Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I've been testing more today. Here are my latest findings. For my first report, please see post no 233 in this thread. 1. DLink DGE-530T Marvell Yukon GBLan PCI card works but the skge.kext seems to be interacting in an odd way with OS X. With skge.kext installed, I'm getting many pcimatch failures but despite this everything still works. See my post no 115 in Hardware/Drivers for more info. 2. So now I'm using a generic Realtek 8139b 10/100 PCI card and this works out of the box albeit a very old box. 3. Samba or connecting to Windows shared folders is not working. Same problem encountered after a 10.4.5 to 10.4.6 update. This has been noted by other posters as well. Will try to fix this tomorrow. 4. Just bought a Soundblaster Live 24-bit External USB box for about USD44 in an attempt to obtain Mic in, Line in and SPDIF out. Will try tomorrow. 5. Planning to plug in my X300 PCI-E card into the 2nd PCI-E slot and see what gives. Hoping for dual monitors. Which kext does an X300 use? I've deleted a few ATI kexts when I followed the borisbandenov method for my X1600Pro. More fun tomorrow. mir... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1976 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Do you think is possible to install OS X86 on this config.: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 Do you think is possible to install OS X86 on this config.: Maybe, try searching the forum for Xeon to see some results for similiar machines. 5. Planning to plug in my X300 PCI-E card into the 2nd PCI-E slot and see what gives. Hoping for dual monitors. Which kext does an X300 use? I've deleted a few ATI kexts when I followed the borisbandenov method for my X1600Pro. Dual display support in extended desktop mode is very important to me. Looking for forward to learning your results. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embries Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Do you think is possible to install OS X86 on this config.: Hmm. Interesting question. I haven't even thought about it, but I have one very similar. It's got 2x2.4 GHZ Xeon (800mhz fsb) on a Tyan 2668 board (i7505 chipset). 2GB of RAM and a crappy PCI 32 meg video card (it does have an AGP slot, but in the rackmount case it was impossible to find the right riser to get the AGP and PCI turned the right direction). I hadn't even thought of running OSX86 on it. Might have to look into that myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin1976 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Might have to look into that myself. Yeah, please do so and let us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 Yeah, please do so and let us know. If I remember correctly, some but not all Xeon systems work to some degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conroe Mac Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 That computer for sale is in Rogers Park. That's where I live =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbeehre Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 well i got my 6400 up and running albeit with windows i hope Apple release a 965 based computer soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conroe Mac Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 I think that's what a lot of us are waiting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miramar Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Please refer to my previous posts 233 & 240 for more test reports. A few more days of testing, more problems showing up. I'm having Samba problems with JaS 10.4.7 DVD. I've been unable to connect to Windows XP shares despite trying numerous fixes including the Simple_Samba_fix_for_10.4.6.pkg. Consequently I've gone back to JaS 10.4.6. CLI smbclient works though. I'm also facing the dreaded "Still waiting for root device". It's not entirely consistent because sometimes OSX will boot up fine, sometimes it requires about 30-60 secs to find the boot device but sometimes never. Wierd. Anyway in order to solve this I had to change a BIOS setting, "Configure HDs as:" to IDE instead of AHCI. A negative effect of this is that hotplugging eSata drives no longer work in Windows nor OSX. Realtek 8139b NIC conflicts with the onboard firewire if I put it into PCI slot 1. I've moved it to slot 3 and it's ok now. Display sleep is working with the MSI x1600Pro but not computer sleep. mir... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miramar Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Just had some time to a bit of Xbenching. This is for my Conroe box, specs in my sig. It's an E6600 running at stock 2.4GHz. RAM is 533Mhz. QE2D disabled. Beamsync enabled. I'll try testing with QE2D enabled and Beamsync disabled later. Results 149.91 System Info Xbench Version 1.3 System Version 10.4.6 (8I1119) Physical RAM 2048 MB Model ADP2,1 Drive Type WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 CPU Test 119.55 GCD Loop 282.55 14.89 Mops/sec Floating Point Basic 137.01 3.26 Gflop/sec vecLib FFT 87.74 2.89 Gflop/sec Floating Point Library 89.10 15.52 Mops/sec Thread Test 240.63 Computation 220.21 4.46 Mops/sec, 4 threads Lock Contention 265.22 11.41 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads Memory Test 138.44 System 151.37 Allocate 122.98 451.61 Kalloc/sec Fill 162.37 7894.79 MB/sec Copy 180.88 3735.99 MB/sec Stream 127.54 Copy 119.82 2474.88 MB/sec Scale 124.21 2566.16 MB/sec Add 134.43 2863.62 MB/sec Triad 132.85 2842.07 MB/sec Quartz Graphics Test 179.13 Line 151.97 10.12 Klines/sec [50% alpha] Rectangle 182.15 54.38 Krects/sec [50% alpha] Circle 178.00 14.51 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha] Bezier 164.63 4.15 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha] Text 240.92 15.07 Kchars/sec OpenGL Graphics Test 184.14 Spinning Squares 184.14 233.60 frames/sec User Interface Test 479.24 Elements 479.24 2.20 Krefresh/sec Disk Test 72.19 Sequential 101.58 Uncached Write 109.85 67.45 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 102.49 57.99 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 83.71 24.50 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 116.67 58.64 MB/sec [256K blocks] Random 55.99 Uncached Write 21.24 2.25 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Write 137.77 44.11 MB/sec [256K blocks] Uncached Read 100.06 0.71 MB/sec [4K blocks] Uncached Read 140.63 26.09 MB/sec [256K blocks] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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