Kyrie1965 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 What is making the mouse to tear, how did Apple managed to fix this issue, there must be something wrong with the driver, maybe time is ower only friend... Maybe 10.4.6 will fix this issue, who knows.. Because we don't have ATI NDRV driver. NDRV driver manage framebuffer, hardware cursor, resolutions, color profiles, etc. NDRV is main video driver. ATINDRV.kext loads only on native Mac (it have some verifications inside). So we have only VESA "ndrv driver" with OpenGL acceleration. It have no support for hardware cursor, resolutions, color profiles, etc. If anyone "hack" ATINDRV.kext we will have full support without mouse tearing. Or ATI release good drivers (x86) for us. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-67452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0ck3r4ever Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Ohh, a driver is kinda hard to develop. The Macvdia guys can't manage to make a working driver (it passed over half a year now) so it is the same thing with ati. But the fixes are smaller for the Ati drivers than Nvidia. So ehh, do it your self is kinda hard. I hope we have some passionate developers in our community to fix this issue. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-67867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted March 3, 2006 Share Posted March 3, 2006 seems to work better with radius = 0 for me Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-67946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZX81 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 thanks xxtraa, great workaround, no more bad tearing on this X300 cheers Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-68357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_Thames Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 You know... ever since Mousepose was released as a Unibin... This solution has been pretty much seamless on my PC. I use a Unibin Applescript application bundle as well. I really appreciate your little trick xtraa... Regards... -Jason Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-68408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-.- Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Thanks xtraa for all the helpful posts, I don't have mouse tearing or artefacts but if I get an ati card and end up with any I have this bookmarked, right now I have a geforce with no drivers like so many others around here. off topic a little , but i don't think it is wise for the computer industry to be always apropriating names for things rather than just inventing their own, first it was icons and now artefacts and I'm guessing there were probably many others inbetween. With google and other search engines being increasingly employed for scholarly research everyones things needs it's own name, not borrowing or stealing something elses name. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-68429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashman Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 I yust bought an Apple Imac Intel Core Duo 20" (after seeing no escape from the tearing {censored}). I can confirm thaht i have no TEARING whatsoever and that my mouse pointer has a shadow underneath! After quitting OpelnGL games there is no pointer deformation.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-68590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinlar Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Now for a bone-headed question... I cannot find "Startobjects" or the other items listed below in "Users" in "System Preferences". Am I missing something? Next, go to your OSX Users settings in the System Preferences. 1. click on Startobjects 2. click the plus, navigate to the Extras>Speakable Items folder you copied from the install image 3. select "Show Mouse" and click on add Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-75804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
powrslave Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Now for a bone-headed question... I cannot find "Startobjects" or the other items listed below in "Users" in "System Preferences". Am I missing something? I think this is what the poster means... Accessibility features with Mouseposé A major benefit of Mouseposé is it’s usefulness as an accessibility tool, allowing people with disabilities to use the spotlight feature to find and follow the mouse pointer anywhere on the screen. You can also use Mouseposé with OS X’s Speech controls (now called _Voiceover_ commands in Tiger). You have to activate Speech using the Speech preference pane: Apple > System Preferences > Speech, then select the Speech Recognition tab, making sure the Apple Speakable Items is “On”. Click on “Open Speakable Items Folder” and copy the Scripts in “Speakable Items” in the Mouseposé Disk Image into the Speakable Items Folder. The default command for activating Mouseposé is to speak “Show Mouse” and for deactivating it is to speak “Stop Showing Mouse”. If you want to change the speech commands you can simply rename the scripts to what you’d like to say out loud. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-75809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquanutz Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Yeah, great fix. The tearing is VERY minimal now. The only exception being after I quit Warcraft III I have to reboot to get my mouse back. No biggy though, it's only about a 20 second reboot time. Thanks! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-75815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XanthraX Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Now for a bone-headed question... I cannot find "Startobjects" or the other items listed below in "Users" in "System Preferences". Am I missing something? System Preferences -> Users -> Login Items This did xtraa mean to "Startopbjects" Tested and working, Thanks xtraa Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-75898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnniecarcinogen Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 System Preferences -> Users -> Login Items This did xtraa mean to "Startopbjects" Tested and working, Thanks xtraa Yeah its 'login items' I think xtraa is german and was translating. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-79847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilnalomo Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 so far it works fine with me...thanks dude. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-79920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadsman Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Works great on my ATI 9550SE. Thanks for the tip, the mouse tearing is now kept to a bare minimum Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-80999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
poispois Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Thanks for the tip! Mouse tearing is now pratically gone. This 'hack' gives a bit of mouse flickering but i can bare with that. Thumbs up! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-81208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioIsDead Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Just thought i would let you all know... new program out there called Mouse Locator. as far as i can tell, does what Mousepose does, only FREE! and... you can pick custom images for it... you see. also, it is implemented as a system preference pane. rather than an application (its universal BTW). Download Mouse Locator then.. 1. install. 2. grab this .zip of images.. MouseLocator_images.zip 3. The MouseLocator-Blank.png is just a completely transparent png. the MouseLocator-ShadowMouse.png is an attempt to make things look a little better (Cursor Shadow). ShadowMouse has some funny side-effects, try it, you will see.. 4. rename one of the MouseLocator png's to MouseLocator.png ...simply place it on your Pictures folder in your Home folder. 5. go to system prefs, turn on "Activate Mouse Locator" in the mouse locator pref pane. also turn on "Always On" this has worked much better for me than mousepose did... use the *Blank.png for a mousepose type results. good luck. EDIT: fixed images archive... oops. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-89236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlevine Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Thanks RadioisDead. I like your fix better than the mousepose. With Mouse Locator, the cursor seems to blink a little less than the mousepose fix, which drove me nuts. Don't get me wrong, the cursor still blinks, but not as much imho. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-90704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorren Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 There is an ATI Driver posted on this forum that works for me. It's better than Mousepose or Mouse Locator... The driver can be found here: http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?ac...ype=post&id=678 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-90884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tek_No Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Hey Jorren, you're sure about that link??? It just drops me on the main forum page... Take care, Tek_No Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-90903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimms Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Hey Jorren, you're sure about that link??? It just drops me on the main forum page... Take care, Tek_No http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?ac...ype=post&id=678 Try that. I have no idea if this driver works though, just fixing the link. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-90936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 RadioisDead it just rocks! the mouse doesnt blink anymore and the shadow effect is like on real mac thanx than than btws Shimmss what is those ATIdrivers? they r sources for what? wont change a thing. MOUse tearing is due to the lack of ATINDRV Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-90969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyliner34 Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 How do we install that driver? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-90985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veeoh Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I yust bought an Apple Imac Intel Core Duo 20" (after seeing no escape from the tearing {censored}). I can confirm thaht i have no TEARING whatsoever and that my mouse pointer has a shadow underneath! After quitting OpelnGL games there is no pointer deformation.... Well of course you wouldnt see any mouse issues - the issues are specific to OSX86 and Ati cards not kosher Intel Macs! Duh! :( Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-91029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
autoy Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 Wow, the mouse locator trick has fixed all my mouse tearing, best results with the shadowed png (I will modify it to have less shadow). I also recommend to disable soft scroll in the apearance preferences. Simple workaround, great work! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-91533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XanthraX Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 Thanks RadioIsDead The results are curious: - If use the shadow cursor, it looks fine, but it overlappes the system mouse cursor. In Word or any text processor it looks hillarious, but have a big advantage. When you finish a fullscreen 3D application (like Keynote), you will have a cursor over the dotted horisontal line and can easy to restart the computer by a system command. But I chose the blank.png, cuz I cannot see 2 overlapped cursors in Word, Excel or other applications where the original cursor is modified. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/5499-howto-turn-mouse-tearing-off/page/2/#findComment-91661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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