joe75 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 So Jas you are again grabing the Hot part of the rod. just my two cents. Cheers all long live to osx86 So whats the best part of the "rod" to grab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asapreta Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Also I wanted to note that this is not a race or competition between the two kernel devs,just two ppl taking different approaches to the problem.it's not about who is better. And also it´s better to have two teams working towards one solution (in different approaches as you said) than none! We hope you suceed! But my question is, will this "new" kernel somehow help in using Leopard in Hackintohes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 But my question is, will this "new" kernel somehow help in using Leopard in Hackintohes? If the method for cracking the 10.4.8 kernel is published, it will go a long way toward helping someone to crack the 10.5 kernel when it is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takuro Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 If the method for cracking the 10.4.8 kernel is published, it will go a long way toward helping someone to crack the 10.5 kernel when it is released. And that could also mean Apple will have every resource needed to further lock down their kernel in the future to prevent such a thing from happening to Leopard. I'm sure the method will be given to capable people who will safeguard it incase it needs to be implemented for future work. But I doubt it'd be completely public with a full tutorial on how to compile your own kernel. 95% of the people here, including myself, lack the expertise to do that... so it's really not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Carltn Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Following is my System Log. My CPU did not support HPET? Oct 21 00:20:52 localhost kernel[0]: CPU features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM EST Oct 21 00:20:52 localhost kernel[0]: HTT: 1 core per package; 1 logical cpu per package Oct 21 00:20:52 localhost kernel[0]: CPU extended features: XD EM64T Oct 21 00:20:52 localhost kernel[0]: Enabling XMM register save/restore and SSE/SSE2 opcodes Oct 21 00:20:52 localhost kernel[0]: [RTCLOCK] frequency 2660000000 (2659753920) Oct 21 00:20:52 localhost kernel[0]: ACPI CA 20051117 [debug level=0 layer=0] Oct 21 00:20:52 localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorApicId=1 LocalApicId=0 Enabled Oct 21 00:20:52 localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorApicId=2 LocalApicId=129 Disabled Oct 21 00:20:52 localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorApicId=3 LocalApicId=130 Disabled Oct 21 00:20:52 localhost kernel[0]: AppleACPICPU: ProcessorApicId=4 LocalApicId=131 Disabled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bikedude880 Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 HPET is motherboard specific, not processor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baliw Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Here's a snapshot of my dev folder in Linux, Hpet is in there. Does it mean my mobo is Hpet capable. Spec is in my sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Vitaliy, I just booted your kernel on my Hack with the 915/ICH6 chipset. I don't have an option to enable hpet in my BIOS, but my processor has NX. Semthex explains how the kernel will work on his blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritz Carltn Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 MSI 945P Neo2-F Main Board also used same HPTE adress "0xFED00000" like as Intel? right? Just a little bit confusing.... http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec....-F&class=mb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mifki Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Ok NX is removed thanks to JaS, it boots into -s without NX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilloki Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 I don't understand most of this , but keep up the good work guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neonkoala Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Does removing the NX instruction mean that anything of 'real world' value will be lost functionality wise? For example stability or speed, or is it a redundant instruction that hasn't been put to use yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaS Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 It will not effect anything,the check has been disabled in the kernel we are all using now and it has been working. I have a modded version of Vitality's kernel booting to single user mode on Intel D865GBF Motherboard / ICH5 Intel Pentium 4 HTT 3.0E CPU / NO NX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neonkoala Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 OK, that's good to hear, I was just curious because for some reason my Celeron M has NX support even though it was a dirt cheap laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuXb Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 So HPET has been covered. For anybody who wants to know more about Intel's "No eXecute" instruction bit, just klick here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopazBar Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Possibly security compromise without the NX bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaemonES Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 HPET is motherboard specific, not processor. No HPET is south bridge dependend. It had been introduced first in Intel ICH4 southbridge. There are a lot info about HPET in Linux kernel. Since version 2.6.17 supports HPET on nForce5 MoBo’s too. I’m not so expirienced in this theme, but I think, that we can emulate HPET using old 8254 and rtc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 jas any possiblity u post ur kernel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asapreta Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 What we "normal" users should be prepared to do or config in our machines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playerzoors Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 What we "normal" users should be prepared to do or config in our machines? From the looks of it ,I think you should check and see if your motherboard has a ICH4 or greater chipset, But then again I am a "normal" user like you, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asapreta Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Yes, this kind of thing I wanna know. What we need to "have" to be easier to run this new kernel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enb14 Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 No HPET is south bridge dependend. It had been introduced first in Intel ICH4 southbridge. There are a lot info about HPET in Linux kernel. Since version 2.6.17 supports HPET on nForce5 MoBo’s too. I’m not so expirienced in this theme, but I think, that we can emulate HPET using old 8254 and rtc. Actually I think has been intruduced since ich5, anyway if you don't have HPET enabled on bios, the kernel will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaemonES Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Actually I think has been intruduced since ich5, anyway if you don't have HPET enabled on bios, the kernel will I know, what I said, anyway http://www.google.com.ua/search?hl=ru&...oogle&meta= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enb14 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Semthex has solved HPET issue so don't worry about it. Look at his blog http://semthex.freeflux.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neonkoala Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Also on his blog he has stated that SSE2 support depends on how you compile the kernel. If you compile the kernel on SSE2 hardware then you should have an SSE2 compatible kernel without any problems. SSE3 users use one compiled on an SSE3 platform and everyone is happy. It is also worth noting that should you want a feature that is not in the "ultra-compatible" kernel then you can compile your own with flags to tell it to add things like NX support. Also note that Semthex is still owrking with a 10.4.7 kernel and Mifki is using 10.4.8 so you can't really compare the projects that closely. However both are doing a good job, and I look for ward to Semthex's source! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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