brighttie Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 my processor also use to max out when running graphics/video/3d apps and opengl stuff like chess didnt even work. ...... And also, when QE/CI enabled, sleep mode works fine. My lap goes to bed when I close the lid, and wake up easily...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastrchee Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 And also, when QE/CI enabled, sleep mode works fine. My lap goes to bed when I close the lid, and wake up easily...... oh forgot to check that on mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suleiman Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Has anyone here upgraded to the hacked 10.4.3 full DVD? Not the update but the new OS? If you have then please let us know if the graphics work for machines where it did before, or not, and, more importantly, if it works on machines where it didn't work before. This could be a Godsend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tak Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Not yet as the SSE2 kernel hack is not out yet. I'll be testing it as soon as it is though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastrchee Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Not yet as the SSE2 kernel hack is not out yet. I'll be testing it as soon as it is though. same here i'm also waiting for the SSE2 hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghw9132 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 the sse2 kernel is out. However i have sse3 and a "compatible" system and still cant get 10.4.3 to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tak Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 I'm installing 10.4.3 now on my Dell D410 (Pentium M, SSE2, NX, PAE) As I predicted, the GMA900 was detected during boot by the new kext with no editing because the plist now contains a device ID mask, as reported in my findings here This means that when 10.4.3 booted to the install screen, I got the familiar blue screen problem. I plugged in an external monitor and rebooted and now I can see the screen and proceed with the install. QE and CI is not currently enabled despite the 915 kext being loaded, probably because the .plugin's plist needs to be edited to 2592. I'll do this after the install (it's taking a while). EDIT: Actually I think QE and CI is enabled as I see the intro movie after install. So, for the moment it seems that the new driver/10.4.3 does not solve our problem. Editing the .plugin plist may help though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suleiman Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 :'( okay...well let us know how it goes man...I'm not wanting to update now because of 1) no wireless 2) no QE/CI 3) no wireless. P.S. How do you know you've got NX support on that D410 Tak? I've got a D610 and a Pentium M 1.6 ghz, but system profiler only says I have PAE but no NX. Did you pull that information from somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tak Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 I can confirm that the Intel GMA900 "bug" is still evident in 10.4.3. I edited the plugin .plist to 2592 but it didn't make a difference. Back to the memory theory then! How do you know you've got NX support on that D410 Tak? I've got a D610 and a Pentium M 1.6 ghz, but system profiler only says I have PAE but no NX. Did you pull that information from somewhere? It comes up on startup with -v I've got the same chip as you and almost identical motherboard so you definitely have NX/XD and PAE support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suleiman Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 okay cool....now to fix wireless and graphics and I may be more keen to follow this upgrade to 10.4.3.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbettcher Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Just went out and bought a ASUS P5GD1-VM Motherboard i915G Chipset. Used a 10.4.3 DVD I made yesterday on my Pentium D box, booted up successfully and installed, no hacking or editing, Sound/Video/ATA all working. For those who want a easily supported box it's very cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suleiman Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 thanks for the tip jbettcher, I'd be all over that except that I need a laptop solution myself. But for other users it may be the light at the end of the tunnel. On a more relevant note: did anyone ask the Dell Inspiron 6000 users how in the hell they got QE and CI working on THEIR machines? We need to dig in as deep as possible down that end I think, and find out what their memory readouts are, and what, if any, bios options they have for their video. I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Hi people! I've been trying to install 10.4.3 from latest DMG->ISO patched with Maxxuss work on a Toshiba M40X-141 laptop (i910 or i915, i don't remember). Until now, i've had nothing but a blue screen without mouse, so i can't even get into the install process. I've tried to plug an external display, same stuff. I still have to try different BIOS option and FN-F8 things. I had to go to the BIOS to activate NX, it was disabled by default and the installation crashed a few seconds after the beginning of the grey screen. By the way, the grey apple loading screen lasts about 10 minutes everytime, so it's very long to try different option. I'm installing from a DVD-RW in the laptop's internal DVD burner. Does this long time sound strange to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanja Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I don't get why do people install 10.4.3 when there are no advantages except you have latest version.... I use 10.4.1+10.4.3 update and waiting for wireless and 900 gma solution. Until then, I am sticking with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I didn't know there was no point installing 10.4.3, so I just choosed the latest... I'm running 10.3.4 on both my iBook and my PowerBook, so it seemed "natural" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJägermeister Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I don't get why do people install 10.4.3 when there are no advantages except you have latest version.... I use 10.4.1+10.4.3 update and waiting for wireless and 900 gma solution. Until then, I am sticking with this. There's one big advantage: working ATI drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 OK, which we don't care since we (people in this topic) have i900 things... i see now. Thanx! [edit] tried a few things last night, i managed to get correct display one time. most times, i had a display but it was very distorted and the mouse didn't click at the good place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbz Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I'm curious...has anyone found out which part of the kexts is resposible for video memory allocation? If we find that, couldn't we maybe edit it? Or, at boot in darwin, is there something we can do to get more video memory? Just so i have a clear answer, what changes with the memory or drivers when the external monitor is plugged? And when it isnt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mortis Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 I still disagree that memory allocation is the problem with i915gm..... What and where is the evidence that points to that?? I think its the setup recognizing internal displays (LCDs) as the secondary display................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbz Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 well i think we should start analysing just WHAT makes it the second display, or how to enable it booting with a secondary display, maybe. We need people who can code, who can tell us these things. Anyone here know how to program? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 well, i managed to installe, it works with QE and CI enabled, BUT only on an external screen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suleiman Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 so far we haven't been able to disprove the memory theory. All we have to do to prove/disprove that one is talk to Inspiron 6000 users who HAVE managed tto get their GMA 900 working with QE/CI on their laptops and ask them what their memory read outs are when they boot up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeters13 Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 I still disagree that memory allocation is the problem with i915gm..... What and where is the evidence that points to that?? I think its the setup recognizing internal displays (LCDs) as the secondary display................. I think memory is a key issue. Laptops aside, my desktop configuration (intel 865g) experiences the same issue. So plugging in an external monitor isn't an option here. My biggest support for the theory is the booting into windows and then into osx for success. It's been the only way I can successfully boot osx when using the accelerated intel graphics plugins. There are many factors involved when considering the boot, but the memory issues seem to be the most obvious ones. I hope we can find a solution to this problem. On another note, is the general consensus then that OS 10.4.3 is a waste of time? I'd rather not waste all the bandwidth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwinmac Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 is it possible to find out where mac os x stores which monitor does it using? by any chance to spoof the system that 2nd monitor does exists.. but it will pick the other one as the default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suleiman Posted November 27, 2005 Share Posted November 27, 2005 people that are using hardware dongles are "spoofing the system" as you put it, but they aren't using a software-only implementation, if that's what you mean. With regards to people curious about whether the memory is a key factor, has anyone tried flashing their bios on their laptops with a different make/model laptop with different video ram tuning options to see if that works? I, like many of the others that have been here since the start of this problem, would really like to see a pin-pointable problem here. Afterall, how can u fix it when you don't know what's broke. One thing I will say, I pm'ed Maxxuss some time ago, before he got busy patching every Apple release worth running , and asked him to look into this problem. He started checking it out for us and in the preliminary stuff I sent over to him he told me that the amount of video ram initialized by the 915 kexts wasn't enough to run QE and CI on a machine. Unfortunately things got busy and that's about as far as it went, but yeah...lends meat to the memory theory. Anyways....daybreak already and i haven't closed my eyes yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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