loonymonkey Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Now I have one last issue left and that is the restart. Restart from windows works but in osx it restarts and halts on boot, before bios and displays a black screen, any ideas lads? This happen to me when I installed to IDE. When I installed via VMWare to my SATA drive, then copied the Nforce4 kext over, this doesnt happen anymore. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-332846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellomo Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Hi guys !! Firslty congratulations for incredible work done !! I'm trying to install 10.4.8 Jas dvd + all path in correct order on amd x2 + Asus m2n32-sli deluxe mobo with sata drive. During boot kext AppleNForceATA get loaded but during install there is no drive selectable !! In disk utility i can see my disk with all partitions but if i try to erase partition 3 (primary reserved for osx86) it hangs with the spinning wheel and probably doing nothing. I've tried also with Silicon 3132 driver for other controller but it get not loaded on boot (apparently). Any help ? Many thanks !! Max. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-332879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonymonkey Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Hi guys !! Firslty congratulations for incredible work done !! I'm trying to install 10.4.8 Jas dvd + all path in correct order on amd x2 + Asus m2n32-sli deluxe mobo with sata drive. During boot kext AppleNForceATA get loaded but during install there is no drive selectable !! In disk utility i can see my disk with all partitions but if i try to erase partition 3 (primary reserved for osx86) it hangs with the spinning wheel and probably doing nothing. I've tried also with Silicon 3132 driver for other controller but it get not loaded on boot (apparently). Any help ? Many thanks !! Max. Did you try installing with VMWare ? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-332881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellomo Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Actually no, but i'm running only linux and don't know if is possible. EDIT: Tried but unfortunately it doesn't work, even worse: it doesn't recognize my disk from disk utility ! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-332882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
z1f02007 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 got it working now. woot woot i can see my sata drives.. can access (read) happy. next is getting the RESTART to work.. & NETWORK. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-332980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Snowski Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 This happen to me when I installed to IDE. When I installed via VMWare to my SATA drive, then copied the Nforce4 kext over, this doesnt happen anymore. Sounds to good to be true, are you sure the ATA/SATA could have something to do with it? I'll try to copy an image of this ATA drive over to the SATA and try to make it bootable. Thx for the info Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-333004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonymonkey Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Sounds to good to be true, are you sure the ATA/SATA could have something to do with it?I'll try to copy an image of this ATA drive over to the SATA and try to make it bootable. Thx for the info I tried copying my IDE image to SATA, it didn't work. What I did (as previously mentioned in this thread) was install via VMWare to the SATA partition. After everything was setup, I was able to boot nativley from the SATA partiton. Checkout my post about this for more info. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-333012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Snowski Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Hmm, but that means I will have to start all over from install point and that is a long way. I have been using this OS for quite a while now. I made backups with Superduper though so do you think I could install OSX to the SATA and then replace with my backup? Thx Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-333041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonymonkey Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Hmm, but that means I will have to start all over from install point and that is a long way. I have been using this OS for quite a while now. I made backups with Superduper though so do you think I could install OSX to the SATA and then replace with my backup? Thx I don't know. I spent hours and hours tryinig to get things to work. In the end, I wiped the IDE install, and did the VMWare install. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-333081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyywalker Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 sorry snowski.. i didn't check the link i gave.. i don't know if it was broken.. i'll upload the installer here.. for those who didn't know how to install Nforce4 SATA driver, or to lazy to type in terminal,download these installer and run it.. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-333146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Douglas Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Hi, I have the MCP51 lockup-on-write problem here too with my Nvidia 650i chipset based motherboard. I was the guy who originally implemented a SpeedStep driver for 10.4.4 (see http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...915&st=380) so if someone has some source for the Domenico 'MeDevil' Colella implementation of the NForceATA driver, I might just be able to help. My apologies if it's already been posted - I did search the topic and didn't find anything. Sources would be important to see what's already been done. Cheers, Niall Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-333411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
harijan Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 if someone has some source for the Domenico 'MeDevil' Colella implementation of the NForceATA driver, I might just be able to help. https://developer.berlios.de/projects/nforce4sata/ but according to MeDevil these are outdated. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-333467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meesterlars Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Hi, I have the MCP51 lockup-on-write problem here too with my Nvidia 650i chipset based motherboard. I was the guy who originally implemented a SpeedStep driver for 10.4.4 (see http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...915&st=380) so if someone has some source for the Domenico 'MeDevil' Colella implementation of the NForceATA driver, I might just be able to help. My apologies if it's already been posted - I did search the topic and didn't find anything. Sources would be important to see what's already been done. Cheers, Niall Ah, Niall, I remember you from the speedstep days. You did some great work. I was also very thankful for your start-to-finish guide on installing OS X. I, too, have a 650i motherboard. Knowing that you could be helping with the NForce driver fills me with great confidence Glad to hear you're possibly going to be taking a slog at this. Huzzah! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-333502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurael Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 It would also be useful for anybody using an AMD nForce 6100/6150 IGP-based mobo as they also use the MCP51 (nF430) southbridge. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-333567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapig Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Word. is the nforce4sata channel still up? I haven't seen it in the irc channel list lately..... I don't know if a lot of people don't know this but in the main forum page on the bottom there are direct links and a java based irc system. Please visit if you can. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-334286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuno Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 It would also be useful for anybody using an AMD nForce 6100/6150 IGP-based mobo as they also use the MCP51 (nF430) southbridge. Right. And I have no idea how much difference between MCP5x and MCP6x but I really hope Gurus don't forget about MCP61 either. One of my mobo has MCP61 (Gigabyte GA-M61P-S3, the 1-chip version of 6150SE+430 on it) and I wanna using this without AppleGenericPCATA. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-334376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipersfate Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I got tired of trying to make my SATA work. I just bought a mac LOL. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-334623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overclocked Tardis Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I got tired of trying to make my SATA work. I just bought a mac LOL. HAHAHA! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-334839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipersfate Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 I know it's funny, but I love it! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-335279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Douglas Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 https://developer.berlios.de/projects/nforce4sata/ but according to MeDevil these are outdated. After a very large amount of hassle, I have finally got the 10.4.8 JaS release onto a PATA drive which (after many hours of hassle) boots into Mac OS X. Then still more hassle happened trying to get my Netgear WG311T wireless network card to be recognised and used (it turned out to be too easy to have seen sooner). I have removed the medevil kext completely as it was causing hangs on my 650i motherboard but I would like to report that if I disabled the SATA controller in the BIOS, they run flawlessly and the PATA drives are considerably faster. I have been looking through the source for the kext above - it looks like a clone of the AppleIntelPIIXATA source but with the Nvidia values poked in where appropriate. Is this a fair assessment? I notice that in the SVN edition of the medevil kext, all SATA support is commented out. Can someone tell me what has been altered since last SVN update, and even better could medevil commit his latest changes to SVN? I'm thinking it's some kind of DMA write transfer bug in the Nvidia controller. It'll probably have some misspeced oddity the Microsoft and other drivers don't see for some reason. Sadly, we're just going to have to trial & error till we get it though I am tempted to completely rewrite the driver based on a direct derivation from IOPCIATA for clarity. Anyway, bedtime now. Comments & Thoughts much appreciated. Cheers, Niall Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-335381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snerler Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 https://developer.berlios.de/projects/nforce4sata/ After placing the .kext file into the extentions folder my SATA drive works fine afte 1 reboot, sometimes after 2 reboots, but after that i get an error that the extention was not installed correctly. I dont know if I am installing it correctly, and i cant seem to find installation instructions... Is there something i have to do other than to copy into the extentions folder? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-335651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppleIIGuy Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 https://developer.berlios.de/projects/nforce4sata/ After placing the .kext file into the extentions folder my SATA drive works fine afte 1 reboot, sometimes after 2 reboots, but after that i get an error that the extention was not installed correctly. I dont know if I am installing it correctly, and i cant seem to find installation instructions... Is there something i have to do other than to copy into the extentions folder? The KEXT MUST be put here for it to work correctly /System/Library/Extensions/IOATAFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-335817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
harijan Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I have been looking through the source for the kext above - it looks like a clone of the AppleIntelPIIXATA source but with the Nvidia values poked in where appropriate. Is this a fair assessment? He's based it on AppleVIAATA. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-336122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveStar Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Hey Can someone please tell me if you can install osx 10.4.6 (JaS) on a nforce 4 SATA system?! And if it's possible can someone make a new understandable guide (for noobs) for it because it's a bit confusing all the replies together. Many thnx Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-336315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jape Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 The KEXT MUST be put here for it to work correctly /System/Library/Extensions/IOATAFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns Not really (that being pure cosmetic -- matching will be done if you put it at the root. I have mine there.). However Murphy's Law is present... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/35985-darwin-nforce4-atasata-controller/page/24/#findComment-336331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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