[pre-release] macOS Ventura

[Stefanalmare]

11 minutes ago, Cyberdevs said:

@Stefanalmare

As far as I've heard using headless iGPU on 500 series won't work. I might be wrong tho.

Like you see above, it is partially true, until now. I hope............

[Cyberdevs]

@Stefanalmare

Yeah you can connect a display to the iGPU and it works but sadly using it headless is the not working part

I stand corrected.

[Stefanalmare]

1 minute ago, Cyberdevs said:

@Stefanalmare

Yeah you can connect a display to the iGPU and it works but sadly using it headless is the not working part

Actually no. You can't use it to connect a display and headless is half working.

[PMheart]

To AMD users: Is your CPU brand string patch broken by using the latest version of Lilu and RestrictEvents from the master branch? In other words, can you reproduce https://github.com/acidanthera/bugtracker/issues/2065?

 

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

[Guest ricoc90]

3 hours ago, Stefanalmare said:

Guys, the saga continues! I understand that I can not use standalone IGPU from CometLake and I put a RX570 inside the case. I tried to use CometLake UHD 630 as headless IGPU (all CML and CFL framebuffers) but I can't get H264 acceleration, only HEVC. Anybody with CometLake CPU and 500 series mobo here? I need some help!

You are correct. I Couldn't get the iGPU working either on my 500 series motherboard, so I'm running it headless as well.
I had to force metal on my iGPU. Not sure why. Either add enable-metal to your device properties or use bootflag igfxmetal=1.

platform-id: 0300913E
 

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[Guest ricoc90]

2 hours ago, Cyberdevs said:

@Stefanalmare

Yeah you can connect a display to the iGPU and it works but sadly using it headless is the not working part

It's the other way around my dude!  

[miliuco]

Good night. I've noticed that, when ejecting the Ventura EFI partition (Desktop icon), immediately afterwards I see 3 successive warnings regarding that the Preboot, Update and VM disks can't be ejected.

By pressing Cancel, dialogs disappear. 
macOS 13 beta 2.
Is it happening to anyone else?

 

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[Ellybz]

11 hours ago, antuneddu said:

Hi , How did you get here? Kernel > Quirks > PowerTimeoutKernelPanic

In my case if disabled ... it restarts when wake up from sleep

Ciao e Grazie @antuneddu

That's a very good observation. PowerTimeoutKernelPanic is always enabled but:

 

- Without the AppleXcpmCfgLock Monterey gives me a KP upon wake from sleep but does not restart.

- The KP on Ventura is always generating an automatic restart upon wake from sleep. 

 

I compared both Kernel panic logs and they're quite different. 

 

Still investigating other venues ( GPU-WTG / Nvme Controller ). I'll post my findings/results.

 

Monterey Kernel-2022-07-03-130643.panic

Ventura Kernel-2022-07-02-205548.panic

[Stefanalmare]

2 hours ago, ricoc90 said:

enable-metal to your device properties

How?

[Guest ricoc90]

7 minutes ago, Stefanalmare said:

How?

You can use the boot flag as well, it’s the same thing. 
 

using the device properties method add key enable-metal with data value of 01 I believe it was. I’ll have to check in a bit I am not home at the moment
 

16 minutes ago, miliuco said:

Good night. I've noticed that, when ejecting the Ventura EFI partition (Desktop icon), immediately afterwards I see 3 successive warnings regarding that the Preboot, Update and VM disks can't be ejected.

By pressing Cancel, dialogs disappear. 
macOS 13 beta 2.
Is it happening to anyone else?

 

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 Yep happens on my hack as well 

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[Stefanalmare]

2 hours ago, ricoc90 said:

You are correct. I Couldn't get the iGPU working either on my 500 series motherboard, so I'm running it headless as well.
I had to force metal on my iGPU. Not sure why. Either add enable-metal to your device properties or use bootflag igfxmetal=1.

platform-id: 0300913E
 

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Yep it works! Thank you! I don't need to fake platform-id. My IGPU is native supported.

[miliuco]

@Stefanalmare

I think RX 580 doesn't support Metal 3. How did you get this? enable-metal=01 in deviceProperties of the dGPU?

[Guest ricoc90]

32 minutes ago, miliuco said:

@Stefanalmare

I think RX 580 doesn't support Metal 3. How did you get this? enable-metal=01 in deviceProperties of the dGPU?

No, iGPU. With enable-metal the headless iGPU will be used for computing, since the iGPU does support Metal 3 it will get reported as such

See WEG's readme:
 

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igfxmetal=1 boot argument (and enable-metal property) to force enable Metal support on Intel for offline rendering.

 

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[Stefanalmare]

26 minutes ago, ricoc90 said:

You can use the boot flag as well, it’s the same thing. 
 

using the device properties method add key enable-metal with data value of 01 I believe it was. I’ll have to check in a bit I am not home at the moment
 

 Yep happens on my hack as well 

It works with both methods:

1. boot-arg -> "igfxmetal=1"

2. device properties -> "enable-metal       01000000        DATA"

11 minutes ago, miliuco said:

@Stefanalmare

I think RX 580 doesn't support Metal 3. How did you get this? enable-metal=01 in deviceProperties of the dGPU?

We speak about enabling IGPU UHD 630 Comet Lake on series 500 mobos.

[Guest ricoc90]

24 minutes ago, Stefanalmare said:

Yep it works! Thank you! I don't need to fake platform-id. My IGPU is native supported.

So is mine  with ig-platform-id you can define which framebuffer your iGPU will use:
https://github.com/acidanthera/WhateverGreen/blob/master/Manual/FAQ.IntelHD.en.md#intel-uhd-graphics-610-655-coffee-lake-and-comet-lake-processors
 

 

[Stefanalmare]

10 minutes ago, eSaF said:

Bro - I just tried the boot-arg -> "igfxmetal=1" entry and it works (see the attached) don't know if it is just cosmetic but will know soon enough in one way or another.

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Hahhahahahhahha! Funny! And true:

 

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Edited July 3, 2022 by Stefanalmare

[Stefanalmare]

I don't know if this is the right explanation for this, but UHD 630 is Metal 3 in Ventura. So, even if RX580(570) is Metal 2, the system know that one gpu is Metal 3. Now throw with rocks!😄

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[Guest ricoc90]

42 minutes ago, Stefanalmare said:

I don't know if this is the right explanation for this, but UHD 630 is Metal 3 in Ventura. So, even if RX580(570) is Metal 2, the system know that one gpu is Metal 3. Now throw with rocks!😄

As it's the default behaviour on genuine imac20,1. You can verify this by firing up Activity monitor and go to GPUs:

Edited July 3, 2022 by ricoc90

[miliuco]

@eSaF @Stefanalmare

 

Curious thing! It can be as Stefanalmare says, maybe enabling Metal 3 in the iGPU macOS thinks dGPU is also Metal 3. But I doubt that it's a real change because of Apple comments about Ventura and Metal 3.

Anyway, we have learned a new thing. 

[SavageAUS]

9 hours ago, carlo_67 said:

 

so does it work? because I just copied the procedure here

 

https://www.macos86.it/topic/5792-wifi-lentoooo/?tab=comments#comment-131599 

 

thank you Lorys89 https://github.com/acidanthera/AirportBrcmFixup

I will hopefully check after work today if this helps or not.

[miliuco]

A few days ago someone posted the link to a command utility to get information about Metal (sorry, I don't remember who it was). It's metalgpu.

Download the ZIP or clone the repository, cd to the folder and run
swift run metalgpu.
But from the information obtained I don't know if it is possible to know if it is Metal 2 or Metal 3.

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Index: 0
  Name: AMD Radeon RX 6600
  Registry ID: 4294968563
  Location: Built-in
  Characteristics: (None)
  Features:
    32-Bit Float Filtering: Supported
    32-Bit MSAA: Supported
    BC Texture Compression: Supported
    Barycentric Coordinates: Supported
    Depth 24 Stencil 8 Pixel Format: Supported
    Dynamic Libraries: Supported
    Function Pointers: Supported
    Primitive Motion Blur: Supported
    Programmable Sample Position: Supported
    Pull Model Interpolation: Supported
    Query Texture LOD: Supported
    Raster Order Groups: Supported
    Shader Barycentric Coordinates: Supported
  Recommended Maximum Memory Size: 7,98 GB
  Max Buffer Length: 3,5 GB
  Max Threads per Thread Group: (Width: 1024, Height: 1024, Depth: 1024)
  Max Thread Group Memory Size: 64 KB
  Sparse Tile Size: 16 KB

 

 

[Guest ricoc90]

50 minutes ago, miliuco said:

A few days ago someone posted the link to a command utility to get information about Metal (sorry, I don't remember who it was). It's metalgpu.

Download the ZIP or clone the repository, cd to the folder and run
swift run metalgpu.
But from the information obtained I don't know if it is possible to know if it is Metal 2 or Metal 3.

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Index: 0
  Name: AMD Radeon RX 6600
  Registry ID: 4294968563
  Location: Built-in
  Characteristics: (None)
  Features:
    32-Bit Float Filtering: Supported
    32-Bit MSAA: Supported
    BC Texture Compression: Supported
    Barycentric Coordinates: Supported
    Depth 24 Stencil 8 Pixel Format: Supported
    Dynamic Libraries: Supported
    Function Pointers: Supported
    Primitive Motion Blur: Supported
    Programmable Sample Position: Supported
    Pull Model Interpolation: Supported
    Query Texture LOD: Supported
    Raster Order Groups: Supported
    Shader Barycentric Coordinates: Supported
  Recommended Maximum Memory Size: 7,98 GB
  Max Buffer Length: 3,5 GB
  Max Threads per Thread Group: (Width: 1024, Height: 1024, Depth: 1024)
  Max Thread Group Memory Size: 64 KB
  Sparse Tile Size: 16 KB

 

 

That was me, but it's pretty easy to write your own using SwiftUI's MTLDevice api:

 

Which shows you that the RX 580 indeed gets being reported as only being Metal 2, whereas the iGPU gets being reported as being Metal 3

Edited July 4, 2022 by ricoc90
Seriously, English....

[Stefanalmare]

I don't know the reason, but I tested enable-metal on 2 rigs: 300 and 500 series with RX570/580 in Geekbench 4 and 5. I have improvement with around 7% on OpenGL and Metal.

[D3v1L]

2 hours ago, Stefanalmare said:

I don't know the reason, but I tested enable-metal on 2 rigs: 300 and 500 series with RX570/580 in Geekbench 4 and 5. I have improvement with around 7% on OpenGL and Metal.

Geekbench on +/-10% is not reliable at all... xD

 

[Guest 5T33Z0]

13 hours ago, Stefanalmare said:

Guys, the saga continues! I understand that I can not use standalone IGPU from CometLake and I put a RX570 inside the case. I tried to use CometLake UHD 630 as headless IGPU (all CML and CFL framebuffers) but I can't get H264 acceleration, only HEVC. Anybody with CometLake CPU and 500 series mobo here? I need some help!

 

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Which SMBIOS are you using?