indraganzo Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 Bisexuality is not fun. Imo anyways. Don't try it. lol So how long did you try Bisexualism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tivimac Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 Ok....First....you're not become {censored} overnight....is possible that your education had been strict and homophobic so you choose the easy path. With "easy" i dont mean to demote you. But i have seen so many friends that choose to married only to live a sad live.... Is wonderful to have a family, wife and children BUT if you are sure of your preferences the honest thing to do is to stick to your preferences.....without inflict pain to other people. Also, Im agree with some posters here. The gayness of some people is problem for the silent mass of men and women who prefers the same sex... BUT be aware WITHOUT those people (the gayness and open, drag queen, etc) the rights that many enjoy cannot be possible.... Religion......that's a good one.....Im believe on a higher plane of existence....I believe that we are NOT alone in this universe.......but I cannot be quiet with people who believe that the Earth has only 5,735 years of existence....because that the Bible said it....GOD or Evolutions gave us INTELLIGENCE so we have to applied it....there are so many examples of the bible taken literallly when you have to think about it as a rule of good manners.....writen in the spam of many centuries maybe with divine inspiration...but most likely by people who think at the time that the rules were the best for Israel...... I dont think of promote Gayness....have many {censored} friends, but either I promote the homophobic that rule some parts of US and latin countries.... Finally I can give you some hard facts.....many of the ultra-homophobic people ARE ONLY afraid about their own demons.....in my country, I have known some many men...str8, married men, that have been in bi-relations with other men.... It something that didn't trascend to the media (being a catholic country) but the examples are many and documented. I dont reallI dont really like the fact that im attracted to men because I am in a strait relationship with my girlfriend and I truely wish that I was still attracted to her the way that I used to be. Im 24 and I have lost my sex drive for women it sucks I want so bad to be the way that I used to be, I want to be able to have that bond between her I still love her just like before but its like the rug was pulled out from under our lovelife and now all that is left is what we used share together. I wish I knew why my preferences changed overnight and how I could go back to being strait because what I miss most was the experience we were able to share together. <IMG style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" alt=sad.gif src="http://forum.insanelymac.com/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif" border=0 emoid=""> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwartz Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 as far as {censored} mariage goes, i dont give a rats ass what diff people do. i think it makes a mockery out of marriage but besides that don't care, as long as {censored} can't adopt children. kids should not have to grow up with two men or two women as their parents, not cuz the {censored} are mean nasty people, it just isnt fair for the kid cuz he can't choose who his/her parents are. just my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal swimmer Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 as far as {censored} mariage goes, i dont give a rats ass what diff people do. i think it makes a mockery out of marriage but besides that don't care, as long as {censored} can't adopt children. kids should not have to grow up with two men or two women as their parents, not cuz the {censored} are mean nasty people, it just isnt fair for the kid cuz he can't choose who his/her parents are. just my 2 cents your right! this is exactly why single parents are not allowed to raise children! cause children need parents of both sex! ... oh wait ... to be honest, I don't know a single kid who ever did choose who his/her parents were..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 I don't want to flame or hurt any feelings here but: I honestly feel that homosexual couples should not be allowed to adopt and raise children. Maybe a single homosexual person could, but not a couple, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solotitan Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 I love how people reference the Bible when they talk about social ethics. I wounder if the people who do this believe that men are made of mud, or that we should stone adulterers or kill someone if they dig a whole and are ox steps in it and breaks it's leg, should we have slaves? Should we sale off are daughters? Do you honestly think that god sent himself down from heaven only to kill himself for your sin (there has to be a better way of doing this, like just forgiving us of are sin in which he is responsible for.) If you think about it he is punishing you for eternity for something you did while you were on this earth for 90 years or so. He makes humans and punishes them for being human, and then says he has a love for humanity, f*ck*n please! The Bible is only beautiful if you take it as fictional literature. which it is. It is obligatory that we get over this religion bullsh*t! As for homo's, I could give two sh*ts, and thats not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The. Mad. Doc. Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 I didn't try it. =/ I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 That a {censored} person or couple shouldn't adopt children is incredibly hypocritical. I have an endless list of children who live with single parent, with hetero couples in a dreadful mess... what is better, loving {censored} parents, or hetero ones who split, remarry, the man beats the woman (or vice versa), one of the two is always drunk, the other cheats on his/her parner... (Not to talk of child abuse within hetero couples) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 That a {censored} person or couple shouldn't adopt children is incredibly hypocritical.I have an endless list of children who live with single parent, with hetero couples in a dreadful mess... what is better, loving {censored} parents, or hetero ones who split, remarry, the man beats the woman (or vice versa), one of the two is always drunk, the other cheats on his/her parner... (Not to talk of child abuse within hetero couples) I was raised by a single parent until I was 8 years old. Then my mother married (I have never met my biological father) my stepfather. Things have always been somewhat rocky between them, they actually separated for about 8 months but then ended up getting back together. While of course at the time I could deal with all of this, It had a very devastating effect on my younger brother. Me saying I don't think {censored} couples should adopt is not fueled by religion or politics, just a personal opinion. Mind you, I have never personally met a {censored} couple with children so I guess I'm not to qualified to make that statement. I just find it counter-intuitive to have too members of the same sex raising a child. The child most likely would be ostracized at school, and may have homosexual views pressed onto them (much in the same way children of hetero parents are sort of expected to be straight). I'll consider what you've said Alessandro, maybe I spoke to quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solotitan Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 You must be oblivious to all the cases were this didn't ostracize the children into being {censored}. Your opinion stems from lack of knowledge on this subject. Now go be {censored}! I'm making you! ah; that probably wouldn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 I just find it counter-intuitive to have too members of the same sex raising a child. The child most likely would be ostracized at school, and may have homosexual views pressed onto them (much in the same way children of hetero parents are sort of expected to be straight) They (children) could have problems at school (depending on the country), but until some time ago children of single parents or of an unmarried couple had also problems. I don't believe they would have "homosexual views pressed onto them", {censored} people have suffered too much in most cases, so I expect them to be more open minded. I'll consider what you've said Alessandro, maybe I spoke to quickly. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Marvin Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 I think a {censored} couple raising a child would definitely help them be more open minded. But if things are the same here in 20 years time, I would not adopt, for the benefit of the child. It would be hell living here and now with {censored} parents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The. Mad. Doc. Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Honestly, I could care less who adopts children as long as their fit to care for them. Not that I want children, cus I can't stand them. So...that's me worthless opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazzzi Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 For me a children should have a mother & a father, that s how we have all been created. Not 2 fathers or 2 mothers. It s just " anormal " & not good for the children. But that s only MY point of view. Sorry if you think i m retro, i m not against {censored} at all but i don t think it s good for the children... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 It s just " anormal " & not good for the children. And is it good for the children living with a hetero couple with the most atrocious problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekahsm Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 no matter the couple is {censored} or hetero, adopting or raising children should be paramount to their priorities. Any arguments or whatsoever should be secondary once the couple decided to raise children. Ultimately human nature is to raise a young person to be better than yourselves. So in this sense, my opinion is, never commit to a child unless you are ready for it no matter what sexual orientation you may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 no matter the couple is {censored} or hetero, adopting or raising children should be paramount to their priorities. Any arguments or whatsoever should be secondary once the couple decided to raise children. Ultimately human nature is to raise a young person to be better than yourselves. So in this sense, my opinion is, never commit to a child unless you are ready for it no matter what sexual orientation you may be. I couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mifki Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Alessandro, the way you make hetero couples sound is atrocious. As if {censored} couples dont fight or drink, or say vulgar things, you are kind of making it black and white i.e: Hetero couples will abuse the child and show it no love, whereas a {censored} couple would not abuse the child at all, and love it as much as it needs (btw, its funny how most pedophiles are {censored}). There are good and bad parents everywhere, allowing a {censored} couple to raise a child is wrong as far as im concerned. How would you know what is going on in the kids head, do you honestly think he will sleep well at night not knowing who is mother is (or is it that guy who wears a skirt around the house). Children already have enough problems fitting in nowadays, this is the last thing they will need. But thats just my opinion, i have nothing against {censored}, just them getting children, a child has a right to know both his parents, not the two guys or girls who are his parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Alessandro, the way you make hetero couples sound is atrocious. As if {censored} couples dont fight or drink, or say vulgar things, you are kind of making it black and white i.e: Hetero couples will abuse the child and show it no love, whereas a {censored} couple would not abuse the child at all, and love it as much as it needs (btw, its funny how most pedophiles are {censored}). There are good and bad parents everywhere, allowing a {censored} couple to raise a child is wrong as far as im concerned. How would you know what is going on in the kids head, do you honestly think he will sleep well at night not knowing who is mother is (or is it that guy who wears a skirt around the house). Children already have enough problems fitting in nowadays, this is the last thing they will need. But thats just my opinion, i have nothing against {censored}, just them getting children, a child has a right to know both his parents, not the two guys or girls who are his parents. Kiko I never said that all hetero couples are evil and all {censored} couples are angels. That is why I agreed with ekahsm. I strongly disagree that most pedophiles are {censored}, that is an old wives' tale with nothing whatsoever to support it. As to the right of children to know who their parents are, I agree of course, but that is normaly not possible in case of adoption. I can assure you, both from my own memory and from my knowledge of children: important people for a child are those who love them, much more than their natural parents. I had both parents (and they are still alive), but as a child I loved other people more than my parents, who were not quite fit to be parents at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The. Mad. Doc. Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Maybe, just maybe, no one should adopt children at all. Then the orphanages can stop teaching the children that they "need" parents, and they can all become self-sufficient adults that know how to function. Then the overly-{censored} {censored} guys that are more like women without actually being women, can not f*ck up the child's mindset as to what is acceptable and what is just plain weird. The children won't have to wonder who their true mother is, "not the guy that wears a skirt around the house" (btw I love that quote, its hilarious) and society will still be the same jacked up place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Maybe, just maybe, no one should adopt children at all. Then the orphanages can stop teaching the children that they "need" parents, and they can all become self-sufficient adults that know how to function. Then the overly-{censored} {censored} guys that are more like women without actually being women, can not f*ck up the child's mindset as to what is acceptable and what is just plain weird. The children won't have to wonder who their true mother is, "not the guy that wears a skirt around the house" (btw I love that quote, its hilarious) and society will still be the same jacked up place. I don't know what to think of this, really. The first thing which comes into my mind is that maybe you have had a disturbed childhood and you should see a counsellor (but of course I might be wrong). On a more serious note, roles in society are changing. It is not unusual for fathers to be single parents, and then they'll be both a father and a mother. Sometimes more the latter than the former. What do we do, do we take children away from their only parent because they could become confused about who their mother is? Children are smarter than we believe. The only thing which can mess up a child's mind is abuse, not love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The. Mad. Doc. Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 haha. I'm pretty sure my childhood is/was fine. I am in no need of counseling. That is just my belief. I can't stand children. With their incessant need to learn and grow. Also the constant asking of questions. It's horrible. I want to genetically engineer children to be born self-sufficient. To be quite blunt, and to restate a point, I could care less who raises the damn thing as long as they are fit to care for it. Love can too {censored} up a child's mindset. If they are constantly "taught" that something is right then they will chose to believe it as such. Abuse(as terrible as it is) can also teach lessons. They will be stronger in the end. Imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Abuse(as terrible as it is) can also teach lessons. They will be stronger in the end. Imho. I agree completely! Striking your children builds character. Why today my son of 8 years complained that he wanted mac and cheese for lunch after I had made him a hotdog: I hit him so hard, his lip busted open! I also like to play psycological war games with him, just to keep him on his toes. I told him if he made all 'A's that I'd buy him an xbox 360, because currently he only has an xbox. Instead when he brought home his straight 'A' report card I picked up his xbox and smashed it against the wall. He needs to know that life never makes sense, that dreams don't come true and that you never get what you want. I want to genetically engineer children to be born self-sufficient. Definitely, my son is an awful little boy so I took him to the doctor to get him screened for ADD. The Doctor said he didn't have it, but I got a second opinion and some Riddlin for him. I'm only supposed to allow him a pill a day, but I told him the Doctor needs him to take three. The difference you see in him is amazing, he does everything I ask and I rarely have to strike him now. EDIT: I'm not serious here. Don't be offended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numberzz Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Good job, erie33, jolly good show! Love your kids? Prove it by beating them. This article is gold, it shows just why, and HOW you should beat your kids. Yes, if more parents would beat there kids, we would have less slackers in school, and in life. When a parent doesn't hit their child, the child in question doesn't know what rules are. They think they can get away with anything. And because studies show that homosexual people hit more, and therefore children, homosexual people will be better parents. EDIT: This whole thing is a joke. I would never treat a child this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal swimmer Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Mutagenic Mayhem, you have some disturbing ideas of parenting. I'm glad you never want children. regarding the discussion: There is little to no difference between a single father raising a child (adopted or otherwise) and two {censored} men raising a child. Neither child will have a mother, yet somehow the two {censored} men fail because of this. How is the single father is immune to this argument? The answer, is he is not. The child raised by a single father will have no mother. However, we still think its ok for the single father to raise kids. Therefore, it is obviously not critically important for a child to have his/her mother around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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