Paranoid Marvin Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Yup, it's true. Very good point. I feel change in the wind It just seems that with the public exposure that {censored} have (good and bad) thanks to the media, I get the feeling that my generation will be much more tolerant. You can only hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roei Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 13.54% is above the avrage [which is about 2-5% (i'm {censored} too, stop dreaming that we are 10% )].... so what can we say about mac community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 13.54% is above the avrage [which is about 2-5% (i'm {censored} too, stop dreaming that we are 10% )].... so what can we say about mac community? We can say that polls like this are not statistically significant (for instance {censored} people are more motivated to vote) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 (edited) I dont know about world-wide, but 12.9% of the people in the seattle metropolitan area identify themselves as homosexual. 10% is actually probably correct. {censored} people are more likely to vote, but closeted {censored} are more likely to lie. LOL Edited March 11, 2007 by gwprod12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquanutz Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Sorry, I was busy all weekend and couldn't find time to get on my computer. I apprecaite you saying it was a joke. I really hope you don't think I am trying to be offensive in the least bit. I know that if someone said that to me, I'd be terribly offended as well. Though I take your word that you didnt mean anything by it. If you were doing what these two were then I honestly wouldn't care if you were to be offended. Lifting shirts and rubbing all over is no acceptable behavior in public, {censored} or straight. As to parading... straight people parade their straightness at unbearable levels. I dont freak the f out whenever boys and girls kiss, or touch, or hold hands, or refer to the opposite sex in an affectionate way. Nor do I freak the f out when straight people talk about the opposite sex, or ask me if I have a girlfriend, or address my participation in the breeder lifestyle. Maybe I should? I apologize for not being a little more clear in what I meant. I meant 'parading' by wearing t-shirts saying "I LOVE C*CK" and other explicit things (this goes for straight people too) and yelling "I'M {censored} IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, I'LL SUCK YOUR #$% TO MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER!" Yes, I heard a guy yell this in a mall... (Boston is an interesting place...) breeder I know you are probably not trying to be offensive, but I find this to be. It makes us straight people sound like neandrathals who are only on the planet to copulate. The reason why you dont see the disturbing heterosexual behavior is because you participate in it, and think it's normal. What behavior would I see in the open that I would be used to? If I see a couple having sex on a park bench, believe me, I'm going to be upset either way. If I see a male feeling a female up, I'm going to be upset. These should not be done in public. Period. The heterosexual establishment is deeply offensive to those who dont participate in it.I dont get offended by it, because I know that straight people are just too ignorant to realize they're doing something offensive to me. I am curious as to why the heterosexual establisment is offensive to you. So, to compromise, maybe no one should flaunt their sexuality in any way? I agree with you. Of course I don't mean that we should all never touch in public, but there need to be boundaries. Things that are very short of having dry sex in public are not acceptable to me, like I said above, {censored} or straight. p.s. sorry if there are a million grammatical/spelling errors, I'm tired as all get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 (edited) Referring to your girlfriend is flaunting your sexuality. Granted, discussing your children is neutral, as there is no way to know how you came by them. Reproduction itself isnt flaunting sexuality, but the means of doing so is. Anyways, what I say is "If you dont like it, call the police. Otherwise, mind your own business." If the police wont do anything about it, then you have no cause for complaint. Wearing a shirt that says "I love pussy/{censored}/{censored}/feet" or a tshirt that says "Hitler is god" is offensive to some people. So what? If you want to live in a place where the majority neednt be offended by the minority, move to Saudi Arabia. (except you'd probably be the minority there, and see it quite differently). If people are having sex or getting naked in public, call the police. Since you live in Boston, you must have heard of Freedom of Expression at some point. I like freedom of expression. You should too. So, if we're creating a world where offensive things are forbidden, I want to add a few to the list: Expressions of religion. Expressions of heterosexuality. Expressions of nationality. Expressions of head hair (I hate head hair, and it should be banned. Facial hair is good, and should be mandatory, however). Opinions that are different from mine. No rap music. I hope you see my point. Equating what you dont like to see with immorality or incorrect behavior only leads to tyranny. I mean... if sexual relations between people shouldnt be seen by children, do we have to go door to door and make sure parents arent having sex or showing affection to one another? LOL. All I know is that if what bothers me about people were to become the illegal, most people would be very upset about it indeed. "Freedom of expression stops where my nose starts." Edited March 12, 2007 by gwprod12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxfan66 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 homosexuals are an abomination to God!! Where is your morality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I dont see anyone punishing me for my wickedness. Do you? My morality is just fine, thanks. You ought to try to get some, instead of wrapping yourself in a cloak of naked hypocrisy. Oh yeah... if God hates {censored} people and God exists, then he should do something about {censored} people. He isnt, so either he doesnt hate {censored} people, or he doesnt exist. My money's on doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid Marvin Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I dont see anyone punishing me for my wickedness. Do you? My morality is just fine, thanks. You ought to try to get some, instead of wrapping yourself in a cloak of naked hypocrisy. Oh yeah... if God hates {censored} people and God exists, then he should do something about {censored} people. He isnt, so either he doesnt hate {censored} people, or he doesnt exist. My money's on doesn't exist. The bible is an interesting kettle of fish. On one page it distinctly says that homosexuality is a sin, but throughout it preaches love and tolerance. And if there is a god, and he did hate homosexuals, what hasn't he done something?? (that's a good point gwprod12) You were a bit strong with your arguement there, but I do kinda agree with you. The point I would like to make is why do people follow the rules laid down by a 2000+ yr old book, that's been badly translated many times. Modern laws change all the time, so why do people still adhere to these ancient 'holy' ones? I would rather not have this thread degenerate into the slagging off of both sides... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindtriumphant Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Everyone keeps referencing the Bible. I understand that the Bible is the one and only resource for many Christians, and that is their prerogative. However, the last time I checked, the U.S. was definately a democracy, NOT a theocracy. There are many different religions represented in our country, and in the eyes of the law, they are all equal. Yeah, I know--"our country was founded on Christianity!" Well...sort of. Many of our most revered founding fathers (aka Ben Franklin) were deists, who did not believe in the sanctity of the Bible. Also, times change. Jefferson and Washington owned slaves, remember? Just because they fouonded the U.S. doesn't mean they are all-knowing. Gayness was not always viewed as wrong...actually, in Ancient Sparta (the epitome of masculinity to many people), men were encouraged to have {censored} lovers, because it was believed that it gave them something to fight for in battle. In Elizabethan England, homosexuality was quite common--Shakespeare himself was said to have homosexual relationships. Newton did too. And as far as "not liking {censored} parades"...yeah...those are terrible. God forbid anyone should ever demand equal rights...the Civil Rights marches of the 50s and 60s were horrible, too. All we need is a little understanding and love. I bet even Jesus would agree with that. Don't be haters, people. oh yeah...and as far as the Bible goes...it HAS been translated very poorly. like, not just little mistakes. "virgin" as in Virgin Mary (kind of important, right?) was translated wrong. It actually just meant woman. just an example....if they can make THAT mistake...why can't they make others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killbot1000 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Everyone keeps referencing the Bible. I understand that the Bible is the one and only resource for many Christians, and that is their prerogative. However, the last time I checked, the U.S. was definately a democracy, NOT a theocracy. There are many different religions represented in our country, and in the eyes of the law, they are all equal. Yeah, I know--"our country was founded on Christianity!" Well...sort of. Many of our most revered founding fathers (aka Ben Franklin) were deists, who did not believe in the sanctity of the Bible. Also, times change. Jefferson and Washington owned slaves, remember? Just because they fouonded the U.S. doesn't mean they are all-knowing. Gayness was not always viewed as wrong...actually, in Ancient Sparta (the epitome of masculinity to many people), men were encouraged to have {censored} lovers, because it was believed that it gave them something to fight for in battle. In Elizabethan England, homosexuality was quite common--Shakespeare himself was said to have homosexual relationships. Newton did too. And as far as "not liking {censored} parades"...yeah...those are terrible. God forbid anyone should ever demand equal rights...the Civil Rights marches of the 50s and 60s were horrible, too. All we need is a little understanding and love. I bet even Jesus would agree with that. Don't be haters, people. oh yeah...and as far as the Bible goes...it HAS been translated very poorly. like, not just little mistakes. "virgin" as in Virgin Mary (kind of important, right?) was translated wrong. It actually just meant woman. just an example....if they can make THAT mistake...why can't they make others? Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristiano Midnight Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I am a homosexual yes. I am just coming to grips with this. My boyfriend, JN who is not afraid of telling others he is {censored} finally convinced me to come out of the closet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I am a homosexual yes. I am just coming to grips with this. My boyfriend, JN who is not afraid of telling others he is {censored} finally convinced me to come out of the closet. Damn! You sure dug up an old thread J/k its all cool, the Real Life Section has been dead ever since Yami left. Good for you that you came out of the closet man 13.54% is above the avrage [which is about 2-5% (i'm {censored} too, stop dreaming that we are 10% )].... so what can we say about mac community? I don't mean to sterotype here, but I will say that it seems the Mac Commuinity is 'gayer' than other tech communities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numberzz Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I am not a homosexual. One of the first times Erie33 talked to me on AIM he asked me if I was {censored} or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 The statistics on this issue are basicly meaningless, though one would assume that it's more likely that someone would say no when they are {censored}, vs yes when they aren't. Human sexuality self-identification, even when it's anonymous, is rife with errors. Most people probably wouldn't admit to their foot fetish, or their sexual attraction to children or their desire to be beaten by a domineering woman. Because people are afraid that they are abnormal and will be looked down apon by "normal" people... "normal" people representing a very tiny portion of the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdnalsi Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I love women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iznogoud Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Well... I'm {censored} I read the whole thread from the start this morning. Although the poll means nothing statisticaly speaking, I was pleased to see that there is a considerable percentage of {censored} people in this forum. I wasn't expecting that in this kind of forum. And most of the posters where fairly open minded... Good for us (as a comunity...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I am not a homosexual. One of the first times Erie33 talked to me on AIM he asked me if I was {censored} or not. Because I was about to start talking about Women. But why are you posting this; You need to remember: "What happens in AIM, Stays in AIM" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 Although the poll means nothing statisticaly speaking... Sorry, I think 419 votes means something statistically, so would 10 votes. Damn! You sure dug up an old thread This what I was thinking, this thread is 15 months old. I don't mean to sterotype here, but I will say that it seems the Mac Commuinity is 'gayer' than other tech communities. I suspect that Apple has significantly higher percentage of homosexual employees than most tech companies too. This is one reason why Apple's products are so original, artistic and otherwise well designed (another reason is the fact that Apple employees a lot of Europeans). You know Apple's VP for Marketing, Phil Schiller used to be a {censored}-porno star, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 original, artistic and otherwise well designed I agree with you that that may be because of their large amount of homosexual employees. I wonder whose fault it is that you can't build your own or upgrade the Mac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I am not a homosexual. And why do you need to state that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 And why do you need to state that? Isn't that the point of the poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese N' Pancakes Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I love women. this thread is so stupid because you did'nt even say if you were a guy or a woman. if you were a woman who loves woman you'd be homosexual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Isn't that the point of the poll? This poll is called: "Are you homosexual?". So if you are not, my opinion is that you don't need to say so. Otherwise we would have 370 posts saying: "No, I am not". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aduffbrew Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 *laughing* When I told my brother I bought my first Mac, he asked if I was coming out! He's just jealous my wife dresses me better. How does that line from South Park go? "We're here! We're not {censored}... but we're close! Get used to it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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