cardinal Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 To people who are asking if so and so is fully supported: please understand that no x1xxx card is fully supported, as if you owned a real Mac. For one, there is no proper dual monitor support. Some cards are just closer to being fully supported then others. You will just have to painstakingly read through this thread. If you require working DVI, your choices are very slim, presently ASUS x1600XT SILENT, and one other card which I can't remember. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-125821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyboy Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 As i dont have a dvi monitor so i cant say about that ,, But i can assure you my sapphire x1600 xt works perfect bro Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-125825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 One more possible reason mine is not working is that I am using a Dell 1905fp which I think might have the same LCD as an Apple Cinema Display (could be wrong here though) and I think I heard something about this method not working with Apple displays. If this isn't it, then I'm almost definitely sure that it is because of my Crossfire motherboard. Thing is that I had considered upgrading to the A8R32-MVP, but I'd probably have the same issue. I guess my only option for it to work is to use a single slot motherboard which is not really the route I want to go. I hope we can figure out what to do with this. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-125874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moss Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 i confirm xt 1600 doesn't works with cinema display i tried with sapphire xt 1600 and powercolor 1600 pro Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-125889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuruu Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Dude, not cool. Thats the stuff that got the forum shut down. Are you worried this in violation of the DMCA? Or are you concerned about the potential piracy involved? Just curious. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-125957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuno Maia Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 i confirm xt 1600 doesn't works with cinema display i tried with sapphire xt 1600 and powercolor 1600 pro Hummm That probably explains why I cant get my Dell 2005FPW to work using DVI from a Sapphire x1600 XT... What a shame.... Im so sad!!!!! Any1 can confirm Dell 2005FPW not working DVI with x1600?? Nuno Maia Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wig72 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Hummm That probably explains why I cant get my Dell 2005FPW to work using DVI from a Sapphire x1600 XT... What a shame.... Im so sad!!!!! Any1 can confirm Dell 2005FPW not working DVI with x1600?? Nuno Maia Dell1905FP - same "DVI-Problem" - Graphics Club3d x1600pro 256mb, pcie Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuno Maia Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Managed to get my Dell 2005FPW with DVI (Sapphire X1600XT). Real DVI, not with DVI2VGA adapters... Made some tests with the ATINDRV.kext: - If I change from "ATY,WORMY" to "display" then DVI doesn't work. I get black screen. Then if I unplug the DVI and plug a DVI2VGA adapter with a CRT display that I have, then it works and detects the Display as DELL 2005FPW... fu$#in odd... - If I leave "ATY,WORMY" or anything else: DVI works, CI/QE/Q2DE all supported but no way to change resolution and getting mouse artifacts (few). Resolution is set to 1400x1050 32-Bit color @60Hz Any clues? Nuno Maia Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 This sort of thing is going to be hard to fix until someone gets us at least the following things. The full ioreg from a macbookpro or imac core duo, the firmware dump from either, and/or a x1600 graphics bios dump. On a side note, I hexedited an efi video bios update for an asus laptop, and I found RV370 in it (this laptop has a x1600 card in it)... which I thought was odd. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberracus Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 nosense, Dell 2405FPW 24" LCD, works for cardinal with his and min e also, asus x1600xt true DVI Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 nosense, Dell 2405FPW 24" LCD, works for cardinal with his and min e also, asus x1600xt true DVI Well, aberaccus, maybe you could help Nuna Maio fix his? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuno Maia Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 nosense, Dell 2405FPW 24" LCD, works for cardinal with his and min e also, asus x1600xt true DVI Hi Aberracus! Been doing some more tests, changing 1 setting at a time and reboot... My conclusion is that when change from "IONDRVDevice" to "IOPCIDevice" in ATINDRV.kext I loose DVI. If I leave it to IONDRVDevice I have DVI but no way to change Resolution and get a few Mouse anoyances (with CI/QE supported, if I turn off CI/QE I dont get the Mouse teerings) Its getting too late for me now... my wife is gooing to kill me... Hope to try something else tomorrow. Thank you all, Nuno Maia Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberracus Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 your problem is your ati card, u need an asus x1600xt is the only well known to work perfect i think Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwprod12 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 It shouldnt matter... same chipset... 71c0, I think is 71c0 what you have aberacus? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaxMachine Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Excuse me but i'm newbie! I have a ATI Radeon Sapphire X1600PRO PCI-e 512MB . I have tried the guide to page 1 but after reboot red lines are looked at alone. What could be? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VN Man Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 anyone have noted frontrow isnt working anymore? I have Front Row working here - Sapphire x1600xt Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 same FRont Row working fine for me using the latest version 1.21 or 22 as usual Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asapreta Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 A card with ID 7146 should work? Vendor ATI (1002) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberracus Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 It shouldnt matter... same chipset... 71c0, I think is 71c0 what you have aberacus? yes 71c0 BUT at least to my knowledge, correct DVI output can be obtained only from the ASUS x1600XT silent version.. to the extent of my knowledge. im runnin g my lcd true DVI right now Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhai Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Ok, so I will try to take this thread to the squeezer and extract the information which is important. This works on x1600 (RV530) dektop/mobility and x1800 (R520) cards, in various degrees. The difference between mobility and desktop versions are; mobility (M56) have only one pci ID (display@0) and is the one used in the real macs. Desktops have two pci ID's (display@0 and display@0,1). To activate the ATIRadeonX1000 driver on the VESA framebuffer (.Display_boot) you will edit the /System/Library/Extensions/ATIRadeonX1000.kext/Contents/Info.plist and under IOPCIMatch include your pci matching id (i.e. 0x71zz1002). Some reports success with both primary and secondary display id, other don't. This will give you QE and CI support, but as using the VESA framebuffer which don't have support for hardware pointer will give tearing. The VESA buffer is not able to change resolution and is locked to the resolution set in com.apple.Boot.plist. Also this is able to output natively with DVI. To activate ATINDRV framebuffer, you need to edit /System/Library/Extensions/ATINDRV.kext/Contents/Info.plist and under IONameMatch you have to edit ATY,Wormy to display and as we don't have the EFI driver which is a IONDRVDevice we have to edit IOProviderClass to IOPCIDevice. Now you should be able to change resolutions and QE/CI should be enabled and hardware pointer is on. But at the moment it is not likely able to output to digital DVI (ASUS x1600XL Silent does work with DVI), only to a analog VGA device. If you are not able to get a display (you get black display but you know the computer is running) you have to try all outputs on your card one by one and/or all at once. If you use ATINDRV from 10.4.4 expect lots of artifacts. X1800 seem to only work on 10.4.5 (crash on 10.4.6) and X1600XT works on 10.4.6. Many experience artifacts also on 10.4.6 and should use the 10.4.5. Some have tried to change IOMatchCategory in ATINDRV to IONDRVFramebuffer (it is default at IOFramebuffer) and then been able to get additional options for dual displays, but in most cases (if not all) the only result is artifacts on the same display when you move mouse or anything else outside of your main display. The reason it doesn't work seem to be because the two framebuffers overlap on the same device. And ATY,Wormy is I guess Apples codename for the x1600 mobility. It is also a kext (loaded from the EFI driver I guess) who attatches to display@0 and creates two nibs (so here is the clue for dual display I can imagine) for ATINDRV to connect to. It is a driver of class IONDRVDevice. The normal display which is used is AppleDisplay but there is also something called AppleBacklightDisplay which I imagine is for the internal display on the MacBookPro. (Maybe if you increase the Probe Score in the IOGraphicsFamily.kext you are able to force the other output) But this is a pure guess from my side. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Nice post superhai. One tiny thing tho - my X1800 doesnt 'crash' with the 10.4.6 kexts, it just gives black screen with mouse pointer. (Which, ok, could be considered a crash, but the point is the machine is properly running, you just cant see anything ) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaxMachine Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Please reply me! Excuse me but i'm newbie! I have a ATI Radeon Sapphire X1600PRO PCI-e 512MB . I have tried the guide to page 1 but after reboot red lines are looked at alone. What could be? In -x mode monitor have all refresh but red line in desktop and the Graphics card not found. Graphics/Monitor Monitor: Tipo: Controller compatibile con VGA Bus: PCI Slot: PCIEX1_2 VRAM (totale): 256 MB Fornitore: ATI (0x1002) ID dispositivo: 0x71c2 ID revisione: 0x0000 Informazioni su estensione Kernel: Nessun Kext caricato Monitor: Monitor: Risoluzione: 1024 x 768 Profondità: Colore 32-bit Core Image: Non Supportato Monitor principale: Sì Mirror: Spento Online: Sì Quartz Extreme: Non Supportato display: Tipo: Altro controller monitor Bus: PCI Slot: PCIEX1_2 ID fornitore: 0x1002 ID dispositivo: 0x71e2 ID fornitore sottosistema: 0x174b ID sottosistema: 0x0841 ID revisione: 0x0000 display: Tipo: Controller compatibile con VGA Bus: PCI Slot: PCIEX1_2 ID fornitore: 0x1002 ID dispositivo: 0x71c2 ID fornitore sottosistema: 0x174b ID sottosistema: 0x0840 ID revisione: 0x0000 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinal Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Thanks for the excellent summary, and I have a couple of corrections: To activate ATINDRV framebuffer, you need to edit Now you should be able to change resolutions and QE/CI should be enabled and hardware pointer is on. But at the moment it is not able to output to digital DVI, only to a analog VGA device. If you are not able to get a display (you get black display but you know the computer is running) you have to try all outputs on your card one by one and/or all at once. DVI works on ASUS x1600XT Silent. I think that is the only card known to work. If you use ATINDRV from 10.4.4 expect lots of artifacts. X1800 seem to only work on 10.4.5 (crash on 10.4.6) and X1600 works on 10.4.6. Many people are getting artifacts (looks like overclock artifacts) when using 10.4.6 ATINDRV with x1600Pro. They should switch to 10.4.5. All x1600XT cards tested so far work with no artifacts with 10.4.6. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhai Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 One tiny thing tho - my X1800 doesnt 'crash' with the 10.4.6 kexts, it just gives black screen with mouse pointer. I see, but mine is all black and full freeze but I have x1800GTO. Can you move the pointer and is your system 'active' except for the black display? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 I see, but mine is all black and full freeze but I have x1800GTO. Can you move the pointer and is your system 'active' except for the black display? Hey Superhai, What brand/device ID is your X1800GTO. I have a Connect3D model with device ID 0x710a1002 which I flashed to a 0x71091002 X1800XL which is the same ID as Munky's. I mentioned that mine lets me have full control of the system, with no display though. My card has dual DVI-I outputs and I've used dual VGA monitors as well as DVI with VGA, DVI only, and VGA (w/adapter), though I get the same result with each. Verbose mode just stops at loginwindow.app, but the system continues to load and I can even restart using the keyboard. If I edit the kexts on a new installation before the final setup menus after the restart by using another working install, I can hear the intro music and everything, just nothing but text on the screen. Also, what motherboard are you using and is it a crossfire board? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/17767-borisbadenov-ati-x1000-series-solution/page/33/#findComment-126389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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