vbetts Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 http://en.expreview.com/?p=202 Thought this was pretty nice news. =] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayanami Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 It's about damn time someone did that. I imagine once 32 bit Vista gets to boot natively in EFI, we'll see those popping up more and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanems3 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 hmmm.... i wonder what this is gonna do for us hackintoshes if we get a EFI Mobo... could this be what osx was waiting for to launch a install disk for any efi mobo? prolly not... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InorganicMatter Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Does this mean pretty soon that all we'll need for OSX86 is dsmos.kext, and nothing else? That would be SWEET! It's about damn time someone did that. I imagine once 32 bit Vista gets to boot natively in EFI, we'll see those popping up more and more. Do we really need to cling to 32-bit? 64-bit Vista will have full EFI and GPT with SP1 in a few weeks. I'm typing this from 64-bit Vista, and it runs almost everything flawlessly. The only problem I've encountered is with some super-old AVISynth plugins, which I don't really need anyway. I say screw the old technologies, force the industry to upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanems3 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 when is the release of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurael Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 A lot of us already have EFI-based machines, which are stuck in an eternal, Insyde CSM hell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotskip Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Do we really need to cling to 32-bit? 64-bit Vista will have full EFI and GPT with SP1 in a few weeks. I'm typing this from 64-bit Vista, and it runs almost everything flawlessly. The only problem I've encountered is with some super-old AVISynth plugins, which I don't really need anyway. I say screw the old technologies, force the industry to upgrade.+1 to this, please, if you can, ditch 32bit and go Vista 64bit. Help push the industry forward and chances are most of your software/hardware will function fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idividebyzero Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 the article keeps saying "efi bios", what the hell is efi bios? Is it UEFI with a dumbed down name? Or is it a dumbed down UEFI? Either way its nice to see some progress starting next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konami® Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I don't think is the same EFI that Apple use it in their machines, I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InorganicMatter Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I don't think is the same EFI that Apple use it in their machines, I could be wrong. EFI is EFI the world around. What makes Apple's machines different is the TPM they use for DRM in Mac OS. Fortunately, it's easily circumvented with dsmos.kext. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanems3 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 show proff of TPM chip... this has been discussed before, there are not tpm chips in the macs.. search forum for full explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurael Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Yep. Encryption is handled by the AppleSMC hardware. There's no TPM in any current shipping Intel Mac. Apple use a custom EFI module to boot OS X, as far as I know though. Not that we couldn't use it ourselves anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanems3 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 ill find out next month , i am selling my windows dual processor xeon system and buying that mobo and a processor. .here is my question is , since efi will be in place.. will my video cards work in it if they are not efi based.. i have a 7800gt and a ati 1900gt... i am sure the efi will change it over, hopefully.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viscaria Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Looks promising since the audio and lan chips are both known to work on OSX86. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Yeah, its about time they started throwing EFI in mobos. Hopefully the EFI guys will figure out a way to flash the EFI on these mobos with Apple's... I was planning on building a new box soon.. might have to pick one of these up. For you guys in the UK, you can pick one up now from Amazon UK. :censored2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanems3 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 damn, shipping would rape me if i were to get it from the uk.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viscaria Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 £80 for one 16x slot, one 1x and no firewire? That's like $160! At that price I'd expect at least hardware raid (not that OS X could use it...) or an extra 4x slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurael Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 No, you wouldn't expect hardware RAID for that. Hardware RAID cards cost £100s. ICHx-R is not hardware RAID, it's just softRAID configured at the BIOS level, same as all the SiI, JMicron, etc chips we've seen in the past but with better performance. Still, I paid £35 for my P35C-DS3R. I got it cheap, open-boxed, but I still don't see what this board offers that would make it worth that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richtig Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 MSI trials EFI BIOS replacement Includes some English language screen shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mifki Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 of course they have to make it look like a cheap asian piece of {censored}, all blinged up and speed streaks. ps: i havent seen them say it will support efi booting yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurael Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 So it's because it's Asian, not because the designer had no sense for design then? Hmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ximekon Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Yeah, its about time they started throwing EFI in mobos. Hopefully the EFI guys will figure out a way to flash the EFI on these mobos with Apple's... I was planning on building a new box soon.. might have to pick one of these up. For you guys in the UK, you can pick one up now from Amazon UK. That is obviously not the board version with EFI. Since EFI version is to be release in february... I don't think it will work ootB but as we know: Netkas is the one in the know of Apple's EFI secrets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanems3 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 due out at the same time as Vista 64bit sp1, so when sp1 hits the floor , this motherboard should be launched, they are waiting for M$ to release it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InorganicMatter Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 due out at the same time as Vista 64bit sp1, so when sp1 hits the floor , this motherboard should be launched, they are waiting for M$ to release it.. Good point. No sense in releasing hardware if there's no software to go with it. I'm curious as to where the UEFI video cards are. Surely we'll need those too for the move to EFI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanems3 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 no you wont, there is a chip also in there that will translate old bios hardware to efi , so that EFI understands it and forwards it to the os, but be carefull on what board you buy, some will have it some wont... , i dont know about the msi board , but we will just have to wait and see, The system i am building will test it out, q6600 , Msi EFI board, 2gb ram, ati1900gt or 7800gt, i have both.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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