ido4500 Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Hello! i also have the mouse tearing problem on my sony vaio n21z notebook / leopard 10.5.1 with intel gma950 onboard. I see it appears only in some situations but is annoying in Flash or Dreamweaver. Does anybody have a solution? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-585867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da11y Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 I tried the Natit on my Vaio SZ that has Intel GMA 950 but nothing came of it. Natit was seen in the extensions but the tearing did not stop. Funny thing is I only get mouse tearing on Firefox and Office 2008. This is becoming proper annoying now, is there no solution for the GMA 950 on a Vaio SZ. Thx for any help Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-585886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EqUaTe Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Hey errandwolfe (or any other x3100 users, preferably those with Dells, ideally those with D630's), Have you tried Chess to see if that works? I ripped a version out of kalyway's 9a527 release - it works for someone else with an ati or nvidia card (forget which), but not for me.. System profiler shows both QE and CI as Supported... Cheers, EqUaTe Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-587141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
more or less Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 More or Less, I don't understand what your post is doing in this thread. As far as I can tell you don't have a GMA 950 or 3100.....and even if you did what does Vista or XP drivers have to do with anything? Please if you posted this to the wrong thread by mistake could you delete it. In case I wasn't clear, my point was that Dell owners of said video cards should install the latest INTEL drivers in windows, and try not using proprietary Dell drivers, and see if that makes a difference. FWIW, I am writing this from my Toshiba laptop running the GMA950 [intel 945Gx], with paulicats Natit. I fail to see how that matters, though. My expereinces with Dell video drivers suggest that they are written in a way that, while it may improve functionality on that Dell in windows with Dell software, that it potentially causes other problems - possibly. You should already know that video drivers determine that video hardwares current bios, etc., as my post clearly stated. So, I was wondering/hoping if using OEM Intel drivers would help out the owners of Dell Intel based hardware, instead of Dell's own drivers. If in the future, you have a problem with one of my posts, either PM me or a mod, and don't air your confused grievances in the forum, please. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-587436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EqUaTe Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 In case I wasn't clear, my point was that Dell owners of said video cards should install the latest INTEL drivers in windows, and try not using proprietary Dell drivers, and see if that makes a difference. FWIW, I am writing this from my Toshiba laptop running the GMA950 [intel 945Gx], with paulicats Natit. I fail to see how that matters, though. My expereinces with Dell video drivers suggest that they are written in a way that, while it may improve functionality on that Dell in windows with Dell software, that it potentially causes other problems - possibly. You should already know that video drivers determine that video hardwares current bios, etc., as my post clearly stated. So, I was wondering/hoping if using OEM Intel drivers would help out the owners of Dell Intel based hardware, instead of Dell's own drivers. If in the future, you have a problem with one of my posts, either PM me or a mod, and don't air your confused grievances in the forum, please. Your point is entirely irrelevant! Dell do not MAKE osx drivers, nor are they ever likely to do so. The driver used in another OS has no effect on OSX or Linux. They are _completely independent_. With this in mind, Your entire argument is wrong, irrelevant, and essentially daft. There are no OEM Intel drivers for OSX as such - there are the ones shipped by Apple. End of. As for errandwolfes post - it was hardly a confused grievance. In fact, the only confused person here appears to be you. EqUaTe Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-587701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatDeceiver Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Your point is entirely irrelevant! Dell do not MAKE osx drivers, nor are they ever likely to do so. The driver used in another OS has no effect on OSX or Linux. They are _completely independent_. With this in mind, Your entire argument is wrong, irrelevant, and essentially daft. There are no OEM Intel drivers for OSX as such - there are the ones shipped by Apple. End of. As for errandwolfes post - it was hardly a confused grievance. In fact, the only confused person here appears to be you. EqUaTe not entirely irrelevant until you prove he is wrong with his statement: "So here is the deal, on integrated chipsets, its the drivers that determine your "video bios" as it were, as they do flash some onboard nvram on the video chipset, iirc." read his post more carefully and you will see that he never claims that Dell writes OSX drivers. his argument is that Intel drivers on Windows may change the onboard bios. I can see that Intel drivers installed in Windows change the onboard bios and change how things behave in OSX. We can only prove him wrong if we actually know that either Intel drivers do not change the gfx bios or they change the bios but it's reset to default when the pc reboots into a different OS ..... until then it's a possibility. btw. Dell specifically releases Dell drivers for gma950 that are different from the Intel drivers for the same card. The problem is that when I try to install the Intel drivers it tells me that I need to obtain oem drivers for my card. So they already blocked that option. I remember it used to work with intel drivers a year ago. not with the new ones though. And I can see that "drivers writing to the bios" is exactly what they want to prevent with this since Dell's hardware config is distinctly different from other OEMs (eg. the way the backlight works...). to 'more or less', this is a great idea, but I have no way of verifying it as Intel does not allow me to install their latest drivers on my Dell. It apparently checks the BIOS and reports that my system needs OEM drivers also, can we be a little bit more polite? stop accusing ppl of things they never intended to do. drink a coffee, chill out and then type. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-588327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stationapollo Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 hi guys, i'm an italian user (a teenager with a love for the macintosh and the girls ) and i'm installing osx on my first notebook. It's a HP COMPAQ 6720s: CPU INTEL CELERON M 540 1.86GHZ VIDEO GMA X3100 AUDIO ADI1981HD WIRELESS BROADCOM (i don't know the model, but it's working from the first launch as airport) LAN INTEL i'm posting in this 3d because i've got a problem: the video card isn't working (no QE/CI and resolutions). My id: VEN=8086 (gma it's intel :D) DEV=2a12 2a12 id device...when i put it in the paulicat natit it doesn't work and at the boot tells some about dictionaries non present in the plist. I'm running now a kalyway 10.5.1 installation. Any idea? Thanks in advance from an italian boy STATIONAPOLLO Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-589521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roneil4 Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Chess works fine for me Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-589625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stationapollo Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 excuse me roneil....what's your device id? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-590176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megnus Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 What driver did roneil4 use? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-590217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vakakush Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...mp;#entry581587 chess is also working fine for me. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-590232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizwan Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Hi, Mouse pointer tearing issue is now gone. I use vanilla (10.5.1) AppleIntelIntegratedFramebuffer.kext with Natit (for GMA950) kext file to fix this issue. So far no problem with firefox & dreamweaver. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-590279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbee Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 can you change resolution? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-590307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizwan Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 can you change resolution? Hi, I can change resolution. Now I'm running with 1280x800 (wide-screen). I have try with other resolution & it worked. This is my hardware info:- Intel GMA 950: Chipset Model: GMA 950 Type: Display Bus: Built-In VRAM (Total): 64 MB of shared system memory Vendor: Intel (0x8086) Device ID: 0x[b]27a2[/b] Revision ID: 0x0003 Displays: Display: Resolution: 1280 x 800 Depth: 32-bit Color Built-In: Yes Core Image: Hardware Accelerated Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Supported Display Connector: Status: No display connected Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-590315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbee Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 thank you i'll try it right away Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-590316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kizwan Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 thank you i'll try it right away Hi, What is your setup? If your setup is leopard with EFI, you should be able to install 10.5.1 update directly to your system. Thats what EFI is for, able to update your hackintosh just like original mac. Actually, our main objective is to replace this kexts file with vanilla kexts file from 10.5.1 update:- bash-3.2# ls -al /System/Library/Extensions/ | grep GMA950 drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 Nov 18 17:40 AppleIntelGMA950.kext drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 Nov 18 17:40 AppleIntelGMA950GA.plugin drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 Nov 18 17:40 AppleIntelGMA950GLDriver.bundle drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 Nov 18 17:40 AppleIntelGMA950VADriver.bundle bash-3.2# ls -al /System/Library/Extensions/ | grep Frame drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 170 Jan 23 13:21 AppleIntelIntegratedFramebuffer.kext Above kexts file is responsible to fix mouse trailing/tearing issue with some application, e.g. firefox. Natit kext is responsible to properly recognized internal monitor/display. I got blue screen without Natit kext installed. I can only see login window at external monitor not internal monitor (boot with external monitor already plug-in). This workaround/fix has already floating around in insanelymac forum. I just spread the word. Some people report success, while some people not. Good luck. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-590506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stationapollo Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 no one have a card with 2a12 device id? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-590901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roneil4 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 no one have a card with 2a12 device id? Sorry, I have a dev id of 2a02. Also, for people asking earlier, I used the exact kexts that errandwolfe posted (but not the boot.plist) and I did not need to do the efi gfx string. Along with the kexts, I used the script I wrote (and posted earlier) to sleep and wake the display on boot. After these two things, my internal display works perfectly. Also, if I change resolution on my internal screen, the screen turns off again until I sleep and wake the computer (with the fn+esc key combination) which also sleeps and wakes the display. My specs are posted in my signature. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-595166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avery Bunker Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 If you have a Dell or other laptop that the LCD simply powers off when loginwindow.app loads then this solution has a good chance of working for you: Prerequisites: 1. Another Mac running Leo 1a. If no Leo is available, a familiarity with VNC and another computer on which to run it. 2. Your laptop must be running the sleep kernel, you can not run the vanilla leo kernel 3. You must enable screen sharing on your laptop. If you don't have another Leo machine available, make sure you configure the VNC option 4. PC-EFI (I recommend version 8, you will need 7.2 or higher) Steps: 1. You must generate a hex string for your specific machine. This is a complex process and has been discussed earlier in this thread and others. I would suggest you visit Netkas' forums to find out more about this. It is possible that the generic dump from a Macbook with a GMA X3100 would work, I have not tested it. 2. Insert that hex string into your boot.plist file. Again, information about this can be found on Netkas' site. 3. Make sure you delete AppleIntegratedFramebuffer.kext 4. Download this file. In it you will find the generic AppleIntelGMAX3100 kexts, the version of Natit I am using, and a copy of my Boot.plist file. I would assume anyone with the same laptop as I could use this file with zero or little modification. 5. Install all the kexts, remembering to repair permissions. 6. Reboot 7. Once your hard drive stops spinning, hit your power button, hit tab, hit space. The computer should now be asleep. 8. Hit your power button to wake your laptop, and woo hoo, your display should be working. You will just need to repeat steps 7 and 8 after each time you power off or reboot. Good luck, and I hope this works for you. At least now we know for sure it is simply a power management issue. Good Afternoon, I have tried your steps numerous times above and read allot of your postings and I can not for some reason get the Internal or External Display to work... When hooking up a external display all I get is PinStripes and on the Internal Display it goes blue and then black... I am using iATKOS 1.0ir2 with there GMAX3100 Kexts and then I replaced theres with yours and the plist and I get it can not parse the plist and then boots up with same issues... Can you help me out here... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-595416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpet Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Hi, I managed to install 10.5.1 with my Sony Vaio and fortunately, the video distortion and glitches were gone. I also have an GMAX3100 not GMA 3100 (I have GM965 chipset). The only distortion I have is the bottom part of the screen which is probably normal since I can't maximize my resolution to x800 (only x768). Is it really normal? The maximum resolution that my LCD can handle is 1280x800 (windows). Having my resolution in 1280x768 is ok, but its not that fine, its kinda blurry. I also experience the same blurriness in Windows in x768 resolution so that justifies that its not a kext or OSX problem. However, if I use 1280x768 in Windows there is NO bottom vertical line distortion. Blurry but no bottom line distortion. I got a feeling that if I find a way to maximize my resolution its gonna be fine. Icons, text will be sharp like a real macbook. Right now, I have CI/QE running but the images, icons, letters, etc are not sharp. I guess my questions are: Is there a way to maximize the resolution to x800?? How can one know the EDID of an LCD and how to add it in OSX? Is it even possible? This is a screenshot of what I'm talking about: (GRAB doesn't show the blur thats why I used a camera) As you can see, the bottom line is blurred. In fact, the whole vertical line is (probably half an inch in height). Again, all the other glitches that I've experienced with the older build are ALL GONE. I just hope someone can help me solve this bottom line distortion. P.S: After I've updated and installed 10.5.1, I noticed that the Natit.kext is not loaded. EVenthough the kext was NOT loaded, the old glitch problems were GONE. My system booted normally without the Natit.kext loaded having 1280x768 reso. I forced to load the Natit.kext and it made NO difference. Is it adviced to have Natit.kext always loaded? Thanks for all the people who continued in helping with this issue. Great work! Keplenk I had this same issue on my Sony Vaio VGN-FE780g (GMA950) with the 10.5.1 update and paulicat's natit for GMA950. I installed SwitchResX, added a custom 1200x800 resolution and it fixed this. I uninstalled SwithResX and it still kept the resolution. 8) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-599147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da11y Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 I had this same issue on my Sony Vaio VGN-FE780g (GMA950) with the 10.5.1 update and paulicat's natit for GMA950. I installed SwitchResX, added a custom 1200x800 resolution and it fixed this. I uninstalled SwithResX and it still kept the resolution. 8) Hey Carpet, do you by any chance still get mouse tearing though. On my Vaio SZ when I install kexts from 10.5.1 and use Natit, my display is not recognisezed. I seem to get really bad mouse tearing when using Office 2008 and Firefox Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-599890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpet Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hey Carpet, do you by any chance still get mouse tearing though. On my Vaio SZwhen I install kexts from 10.5.1 and use Natit, my display is not recognisezed. I seem to get really bad mouse tearing when using Office 2008 and Firefox Nope, no tearing at all. I do not have office 08 (yet) but firefox & Adobe CS3 do not tear, nor do i have that little grey square that would sometimes show on the upper left Apple icon next to finder. I have GMA 945/950 chipset, and installing the 10.5.1 update from the apple site gives me a blue screen without paulicat's natit. So, to prevent that, I installed paulicat's Natit via kexthelper b7 first, rebooted, then installed the 10.5.1 update from apple.com. Upon boot, my resolutions are exactly like the pic i quoted above, adding alot of unsupported resolutions. The best option was a 1280x768 resolution. That resolution, however, added that distorted line at the bottom. Even tho mouse tearing was completely gone, I couldn't live with that distorted line at the bottom, so i tried SwitchResX and added a custom 1280x800 resolution, rebooted and then my normal supported resolutions were available in the Displa system preferences. Before i installed SwitchResX, i tried forcing a 1280x800 resolution in my com.apple.boot.plist, but that did nothing. so thats it, I recommend trying what i did to see if it will work for you. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-600665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da11y Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Nope, no tearing at all. I do not have office 08 (yet) but firefox & Adobe CS3 do not tear, nor do i have that little grey square that would sometimes show on the upper left Apple icon next to finder. I have GMA 945/950 chipset, and installing the 10.5.1 update from the apple site gives me a blue screen without paulicat's natit. So, to prevent that, I installed paulicat's Natit via kexthelper b7 first, rebooted, then installed the 10.5.1 update from apple.com. Upon boot, my resolutions are exactly like the pic i quoted above, adding alot of unsupported resolutions. The best option was a 1280x768 resolution. That resolution, however, added that distorted line at the bottom. Even tho mouse tearing was completely gone, I couldn't live with that distorted line at the bottom, so i tried SwitchResX and added a custom 1280x800 resolution, rebooted and then my normal supported resolutions were available in the Displa system preferences. Before i installed SwitchResX, i tried forcing a 1280x800 resolution in my com.apple.boot.plist, but that did nothing. so thats it, I recommend trying what i did to see if it will work for you. That's weird, when I tried that all I would get was a white screen with lines going down. Did you install the whole update or did you extract the Kexts you needed. I see you've got iATKOS installation where as I'm running Kalway. That won't make a difference would it? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-600867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
collit99 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 paulicat's natit works on my acer 4310 laptop with gma950 grafix, using kalyway 10.5.1, downloaded 10.5.1 update and install all the 950 related kext,plugin etc and the framebuffer. no tearing at all one problem is if i tried to shutdown the laptop it looks like it goes to sleep, need to press the power button for a few seconds for it to power off. anybody having same issue as mine. btw i installed efi_v8 and the acpi with reboot fix included on the kalyway package thanks! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-601598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpet Posted January 31, 2008 Share Posted January 31, 2008 That's weird, when I tried that all I would get was a white screen with lines going down.Did you install the whole update or did you extract the Kexts you needed. I see you've got iATKOS installation where as I'm running Kalway. That won't make a difference would it? Hm i not sure how much of a difference that would make, sorry man. you can try iATKOS, no sure if it will work for ya. Works for me :/ Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/70282-users-with-gma-950-x3100-real-macs-needed-here/page/13/#findComment-602059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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