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I use MacOS X to every thing you think. i only have native windows installed because of the squarehead of the family, and for my Sony Ericsson W800i cell phone flashing.

 

For PlC (Programmable Logic Controler) SDK I'm actually using CodeWeavers solution to emulate Windows.

For PLC (same as up) Emulator I'm using CodeWeavers solution too.

For VisuAlg, CircuitMaker, MultiSim, and other programs that use in my Technical Graduation I'm using CodeWeavers solutions too.

 

Conclusion. Let make Apple include an "Rosetta" to emulate Windows Environment, and Make Windows Applications run under MacOS x =D

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- theres no IM with Tlen.pl support (a polish instant messenger, second place by Gadu-Gadu)

- QE and CI doesnt work on my Radeon X1600 (hah... compiz/berly too ;P)

- also TV Card

- games (Lineage II)

- theres no official polish translation of OSX, and unofficial is... ugly; we have a war - war of better words meaning (ie. we dont have folders, we have briefcase or binder - in polish of course ;P. its hard to explain...).

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Yes, it allows <Language># code to run on the Apple platform, but it's essentially designed as a kill-switch for the Apple computer. Think about it this way: .NET is released for Mac, so developers stop using TRUE multiplatform languages and use .NET instead. 3 Years down the line, IE style, Microsoft stop releasing .NET/mac. Suddenly developers are left with a platform that they don't know how to code for, so they either have to relearn programming, or switch to using Windows.

.Net isn't some insidious plan to kill the Mac. The open source Mono runtime runs many .Net apps, and Microsoft can't do anything to legally shut them down. If the situation DOES play out as you expect, Apple will just throw some of their resources behind Mono and abandon .Net.

 

Right now, if you develop an app for Mono, it's very rare that it won't work on .Net. The other way isn't so bulletproof yet, but they're getting better all the time.

 

Sure, it comes straight out of Microsoft, who has crammed some of the worst innovation stifling useless {censored} down our throats throughout its history. But .Net is a rare one from them; it's a good idea.

 

All the software I need is on this platform, and it's the same one used by my University department. I'm a coder with morals, so like the antithesis of Steve Ballmers Children ("You don't use google and you don't have an iPod.") I don't use .NET, and I don't have Visual Studio. (Which is pretty much required to do .NET [C#, VB#, J# etc.])

...I don't understand where morals come into coding.... You kind of lost me there. But you don't need Visual Studio to develop C#. Most Mono C# developers just use what most coders have used since the beginning; a simple text editor. Visual Studio just has features that make coding and debugging RIDICULOUSLY easy.

 

 

There is a plugin to make XCode work with C#/Mono. It's just very cumbersome right now because of the differences in how .Net and Xcode work, and it doesn't have a debugger.

 

Most people who critisize the .Net framework haven't ever actually used it, many of the harshest critics haven't even heard anything about it other than it comes from microsoft (originally).

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In OSX I can't play GTA San Andreas, run keygens, update keys and emulators in my sat receiver, authoring video DVD with serious authoring programs like Scenarist, run photographic remapping program RectFish, ecc.

 

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In OSX I can't play GTA San Andreas, run keygens, update keys and emulators in my sat receiver, authoring video DVD with serious authoring programs like Scenarist, run photographic remapping program RectFish, ecc.

 

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OT: Wow, I love your avatar :thumbsup_anim:

 

That angry cat is me!

 

Sometimes I'd like to destroy with a revolution everything I hate.

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Try to cram many things into one app. In other words: Firefox syndrome. Took me ages to get out of that one.. the nearest I have to it now is quicksilver, but I only use that for applaunching, none of the other odd features.

 

It sounds sad, but I don't game now that I have a mac at all anymore, not because its hard (I have bootcamp installed fine), just I don't feel like it. I used to play a bit of AoE or SimCity, but not at all anymore. Perhaps I've just grown up a bit.. that or its the Wii I now own...

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  1. Playing games, especially Halo
  2. Doing any kind of non-recreational work, like typing up documents in Word. OS X is too distracting and fun.
  3. Going to any site that requires Shockwave. (Adobe, port it to a Uni-Bin already! It's been 2 years!)

Now with the EA Games announcement, #1 might be taken care of if a lot of new titles hit the Mac. My computer is a 2004 model Sony Vaio, so I'd probably upgrade to a new 2008 model Mac when they come out and use it for gaming.

 

Once Office 2008 hits stores, I'm buying it (or "acquiring" it.) This will take care of problemo numero 2. Yeah, I know there are open source office suites for Mac, but they run slow as hell and the creators apparently lack sense of creative design in the interfaces.

 

I somehow doubt #3 will be ever addressed. I seriously think Adobe forgot about Shockwave altogether. I'm thinking rather than be fixed, Shockwave will just gradually phase out of use in websites. (But darn it, I like iSketch.com :thumbsdown_anim:)

 

Hopefully by 2008, I can walk into my local Apple Store, buy a new Mac, and be confident that I'll never need to use Windows again. (Ok, maybe "never" is a strong word, but I'll have Bootcamp for those once-in-a-blue-moon occasions.)

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The only thing I still dont do in OS X is Sony Connect Reader because I use the store to buy ebooks for it (I havent found any good unlocked pdf ebook sites with a good selection yet). I downloaded the doucdesk prs reader but I still buy ebooks with Sony Connect Reader. Also, I sometimes use the paypal virtual debit card. Other than that, its all os x for me.

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Coding IDE's are more refined on windows. I have used eclipse.
More refined? Don't make me laugh. Eclipse is a Java application and thus the same on any platform. Also, IntelliJ's "IDEA" for OSX beats Eclipse with a stick any day.

 

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More refined? Don't make me laugh. Eclipse is a Java application and thus the same on any platform. Also, IntelliJ's "IDEA" for OSX beats Eclipse with a stick any day.

 

hecker

 

hecker, what I don't do as well in MacOS-X is to code. I'm more accustomed to Win programming... for example my language of preference is C/C++, and when I want to code a User Interface I just add all the controls from scratch (no MFC, no UI Builders and such).

 

Could you please enlighten me which is the way to go on C++ Mac programming, and if its possible to program all UI controls with code, and not like VB's drag 'n' drop?

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

P.S. IntelliJ IDEA is great, I use it at work.

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Could you please enlighten me which is the way to go on C++ Mac programming, and if its possible to program all UI controls with code, and not like VB's drag 'n' drop?
Well, that will depend on if you want to create more "generic" C/C++ applications intended to run on both Windows and OSX or if you want to create applications that rely on microsoft libraries to display, say, MS-Windows specific components.

If you want a great IDE for the first group then I can recommend XTools. It's probably the nicest looking IDE that fully supports the C/C++ standard.

If you need to display MS specific components then you'll have to stick to your Windows based products, like Visual Studio.

 

Now, if you want to go a more "classical" way (or more from scratch, so to speak), you can always rely on the GCC compiler available in every OSX distribution and your favorite terminal editor, like vi. It will really depend on how complicated your application will be.

 

Cheers,

 

hecker

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Well, from the "what do you do in OS X?" thread, we can see that many people edit media, create documents, work, play, listen to music, and quite a bit more in OS X.

I'm wondering what everyone DOESN'T do in OS X. I still have my windows partition for phone flashing, games, and Alcohol 120%/PSP games.

What does everyone do in windows? many people here can't completely switch to OS X for one reason or the other. Why do you still touch windows from time to time?

Gaming. Specifically Test Drive Unlimited 2 ( What a wee game ;] )

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Well, from the "what do you do in OS X?" thread, we can see that many people edit media, create documents, work, play, listen to music, and quite a bit more in OS X.

I'm wondering what everyone DOESN'T do in OS X. I still have my windows partition for phone flashing, games, and Alcohol 120%/PSP games.

What does everyone do in windows? many people here can't completely switch to OS X for one reason or the other. Why do you still touch windows from time to time?

 

I still do everything serious using Windows.

The first reason for that, is that I won't hurt myself for hours with the blurry Apple font rendering. I stay days long in front of a computer screen, i need crisp and sharp fonts. Even Ubuntu has understood that fonts matters and really made a big deal with version 10.04. and its brilliant perfectly hinted Ubuntu font. Steve still sticks alone to its crappy Adobe rendering from the late 80's, which might be adequate for layouting printed stuff, bus it completely unadapted for screens and day-long reading. Shame on him!

 

It is also damn limited, since it's windows can only be resized from that ridiculous lower right corner. Many applications won't let you really chose where to save, you cannot create a folder on the fly during saving, all things I really miss in a business environment. On dual monitors, getting the menus from the other monitor is also somewhat nerving and frankly absolutely unergonomic.

 

OSx is nice for a netbook-like usage, since it boots up fast and is fancy to use, but I never would use it for longer than half an hour.

 

Just my few cents....

 

Laszlo

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