MorphewS Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Dont work too Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-198632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minipulator Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Hello there. First let me say THANK YOU for the guide. It's been -most- useful. So, hardware first: ATI x1900xt PCIE Graphics Intel DG965WH motherboard ^ Onboard Audio Sata 250GB HDD IDE DVDRW 2GB RAM OSX Ver: 10.4.6 installed from 10.4.6.install.dvd.iso (Mac OS X 10.4.6 JaS Install DVD OSx86 for PCs) Here's where I'm at. I've installed OSX successfully (Finally!) using the VMWare method, and have a bootloader that fills my dual-booting needs. I've had a -heck- of a time with this box primarily because the IDE controller seems to be recognized by about 1% of all existing software. However using Hiren's boot cd through vmware, emulation allowed me to do all the partitioning and whatnot sucessfully. One last note.. I have to go into BIOS and set my SATA drive to emulate AHCI or OSX will not recognize it. Now, when I boot up (normally) I get the little grey mac screen with a "no" icon. Booting with "-v -x platform=x86pc" gives me the following errors (I assume they're errors, actually.. primarily because nothing happens afterward. The harddrive isn't even being accessed) Display: family specific matching fails Display: match category IOFrameBuffer exists Am I correct in assuming this is a video error? If so, why do I get a display when booting 'normally'? Lastly, I have the 10.4.7 patch, but I cannot apply it. Since I am unable to boot into OSX, I cannot do it that way. Trying to boot to my new partition through VMWare fails with the error "The CPU has been disabled by the guest operating system. You will need to power off or reset the virtual machine at this point." I should add, of course, that I don't even know if the 10.4.7 patch would help me, just something I thought I should note. -Minipulator Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-199104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabr Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 What CPU do you have? If it's dual core, try using "cpus=1" at the Darwin Prompt... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-199116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minipulator Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Ah, it is a dual core CPU. Should have mentioned that before. It's a Pentium D 3.0. And thank you for the quick response. But that didn't -seem- to help, though I'm keeping it in for max compat. I found a janky way to get a little further in the bootup.. I have to go through this song and dance with BIOS (go into BIOS, change something, change it back, save and exit) and THEN it will load up the little loading OS screen, complete with the loading bar.. problem is, first pixel that shows up on the loading bar, and the same thing happens as before. Seems to just lock up right there. Hard lock. Booting with -v -x cpus=1 platform=x86pc gets me a few repeating lines before it locks: Display: Family specific matching fails Display: Family specific matching fails Display: Family specific matching fails Display: Family specific matching fails Display: Family specific matching fails Display: Family specific matching fails I'm still not sure if that's 'what it did before it crashed' or 'what it was doing when it crashed', however. If theres any more information that would help you help me, please let me know. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-199154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeasy Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Hi all, I am having a problem installing osx on my laptop, i am using jas 10.4.6 install dvd. i tried installing natively, but on the apple logo screen i get a "no" icon, i tried using various flags (like platform=x86pc -v etc) but to no avail. so i tried the vmware approach, which boots the install dvd fine. i use the disk utility to format a 10gb partition then I customise the install (no printer drivers, no additional languages/fonts, and i go through the extra bits and select all the ones i need for my pc (amd support, ati, etc) then start the installation process. It installs fine. It then says it is going to reboot. It does so and I remove the install dvd. I then get an error saying no operating system found. i try to boot using the chain0 method and get a chain0 error. When i check the disk using acronic partition expert it says: FS: None Partition: 0x6 (fat 16) File System : NONE I have tried to install with the drive formatted to logical, primary and unallocated, all with the same results. Can someone shed any light on my problem? my system specs are: mobile sempron 3000+ 1gb ram 60gb ide hdd ati 200m Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-199501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minipulator Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Bigeasy, I'm assuming in your VMWare setup you selected Use a Physical Disk, but after you created the VMWare Virtual Machine, did you remember to edit the Hard Disk entry and change the Mode to Independant -> Persistent? If you do not no real changes (if I understand correctly) will be made to the harddrive during your VMWare OSX install, and that sort of sounds like what happened to you. Since you see no file system on the partition after the install this would be my first guess. Hope it helps... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-199583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabr Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 Ah, it is a dual core CPU. Should have mentioned that before. It's a Pentium D 3.0. And thank you for the quick response. But that didn't -seem- to help, though I'm keeping it in for max compat. I found a janky way to get a little further in the bootup.. I have to go through this song and dance with BIOS (go into BIOS, change something, change it back, save and exit) and THEN it will load up the little loading OS screen, complete with the loading bar.. problem is, first pixel that shows up on the loading bar, and the same thing happens as before. Seems to just lock up right there. Hard lock. Booting with -v -x cpus=1 platform=x86pc gets me a few repeating lines before it locks: Display: Family specific matching fails Display: Family specific matching fails Display: Family specific matching fails Display: Family specific matching fails Display: Family specific matching fails Display: Family specific matching fails I'm still not sure if that's 'what it did before it crashed' or 'what it was doing when it crashed', however. If theres any more information that would help you help me, please let me know. I don't think it is the Display: ..... matching fails part, becuase I get that too and it works ok for me...what is the last line that you see before it stop doing anything? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-199606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeasy Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 cheers for the reply, unfortunatly that is what i have been doing (Independant -> Persistent), it seems like a very wierd problem i am having. as a test i formatted my partition to ext3 before installing osx, it says its formatting, goes through setup and when it restarts it still is ext3. I wish it was something simple like a couple of tick boxes :-) im going to play with it for a bit longer, see if i can get it working. I dont like being beaten by a machine! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-199622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minipulator Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 SABR, With your help and a bit of luck I am now able to boot into OSX. I have the usual stuff to deal with - video is unaccelerated and I have no audio, but those are (hopefully) fixable. Actually, I have one bigger problem at the moment... If I choose to reboot from OSX, ACPI doesn't act correctly.. it starts to shut down, but then just stops... so I have to hit the power button. After this happens, I can no longer boot to OSX, and I have to reinstall the whole OS. However, if I shut down instead of reboot, there appears to be no problem. I'm downloading a new copy of OSX at the moment (10.4.7) to see if it resolves this issue, but if you have any further advice on the problem, I'd love to hear it. I was an idiot, I'm afraid. My problem with the last post was that when I installed I completely missed the 'customize' button, and was not installing the patches included with the OS installer. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-199691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Float Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Just finished reading through the whole thread and must still inquire about my problem. As mentioned in earlier posts, I am having trouble seeing my hard disks from Disk Utility. When setting up my VM, I see the partitions ( all the file sizes look correct ) and it all seems setup properly ( although my drives are SATA and I keep seeing SCSI.. with no options for ATA ). Here are some screenshots to help assist. Partion Magic showing my setup http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6880/pa...ionmagicoi0.gif When setting up my VM, the adapter http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1538/adapteriorr6.gif Selecting what individual partition to install on http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7196/partszw6.gif Advanced option for the specific partition http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2410/ha...advancedgv4.gif I've heard people mention problems using partition magic to make the partition.. but this seems silly. Nonetheless, I'm in the process of using the vmware tool (http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ws_disk_manager_running.html) which I don't think is what I want. Any suggestions might help. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-199750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammjet Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 OSX has limited SATA support. Definitely no nForce4 SATA support. You will need to use an ATA drive for OSX. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-199757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabr Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 SABR, With your help and a bit of luck I am now able to boot into OSX. I have the usual stuff to deal with - video is unaccelerated and I have no audio, but those are (hopefully) fixable. Actually, I have one bigger problem at the moment... If I choose to reboot from OSX, ACPI doesn't act correctly.. it starts to shut down, but then just stops... so I have to hit the power button. After this happens, I can no longer boot to OSX, and I have to reinstall the whole OS. However, if I shut down instead of reboot, there appears to be no problem. I'm downloading a new copy of OSX at the moment (10.4.7) to see if it resolves this issue, but if you have any further advice on the problem, I'd love to hear it. I was an idiot, I'm afraid. My problem with the last post was that when I installed I completely missed the 'customize' button, and was not installing the patches included with the OS installer. Congratulations minipulator! Glad to hear you have it working... As for the reboot problem - it's very weird that the installation becomes unbootable afterwards. Anyway, try adding "platform=ACPI" at the Darwin Boot Prompt, see if that helps. Float, sorry to disappoint you, but nForce 4 and SATA don't mix very well under OS X. In actual fact, it can corrupt the drive if you try to boot natively of it, so be careful. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-199773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minipulator Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Ok, that didn't work but you did point me in the right direction. It turns out that on this motherboard (and i'm assuming similar intel ones) there's an option called something like Intel Quick Resume in BIOS.. with that disabled, it still doesn't 'reboot' but it doesn't screw up the install when you power off, either. There isn't a tradition ACPI=On or Off in the BIOS, so I guess this is Intel's branded version. I figure someone else will find this information useful.. eventually. Man.. SO close now. Audio I don't even know where to begin.. one of the patches I installed (through the OS installer) was for the Sigmatel (my onboard audio controller) but I don't even see an audio device in System Preferences. Video I found a decent tutorial on how to get the X1000 series up and running, but my config files don't match the example ones exactly, and I keep fowling up my install. heh. So far I'm been VERY lucky, only mucking up the install a few times (from which I learned) and not messing up the MBR at all (though it wouldn't be that big a deal, I suppose). This getting-hardware-to-work bit is the biggest hurdle I've hit so far. I feel a bit in the dark. It looks like I'm modifying pointers in the info.plist files to point to the right hardware, but I don't truly understand what I'm doing.. I've been looking for a decent guide on the subject, but so far I've come up with only hardware-specific walkthroughs, nothing so general. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-199834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabr Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 Ok, that didn't work but you did point me in the right direction. It turns out that on this motherboard (and i'm assuming similar intel ones) there's an option called something like Intel Quick Resume in BIOS.. with that disabled, it still doesn't 'reboot' but it doesn't screw up the install when you power off, either. There isn't a tradition ACPI=On or Off in the BIOS, so I guess this is Intel's branded version. I figure someone else will find this information useful.. eventually. Man.. SO close now. Audio I don't even know where to begin.. one of the patches I installed (through the OS installer) was for the Sigmatel (my onboard audio controller) but I don't even see an audio device in System Preferences. Video I found a decent tutorial on how to get the X1000 series up and running, but my config files don't match the example ones exactly, and I keep fowling up my install. heh. So far I'm been VERY lucky, only mucking up the install a few times (from which I learned) and not messing up the MBR at all (though it wouldn't be that big a deal, I suppose). This getting-hardware-to-work bit is the biggest hurdle I've hit so far. I feel a bit in the dark. It looks like I'm modifying pointers in the info.plist files to point to the right hardware, but I don't truly understand what I'm doing.. I've been looking for a decent guide on the subject, but so far I've come up with only hardware-specific walkthroughs, nothing so general. Ok, this should get you up and running with Audio: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Audio As for your graphics, if you have an X1600 or X1800 Series card: http://installers.dl.am/ Good luck, post back here with your results Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-199858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Float Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Float, sorry to disappoint you, but nForce 4 and SATA don't mix very well under OS X. In actual fact, it can corrupt the drive if you try to boot natively of it, so be careful. How disappointing! This ruins my whole dream Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-199922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabr Posted October 2, 2006 Author Share Posted October 2, 2006 How disappointing! This ruins my whole dream Well, just go and buy a cheap 40GB or 80GB PATA/IDE drive. They go on eBay pretty cheap usually (for brand new ones!). I ran OSx86 extremely well with my Althon 64 system last year, with a PATA/IDE drive. However, you must remember that OSx86 isn't meant to run on x86 based PC's, so really, we should be greatful that we have it very close to perfect in some cases... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-199933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeasy Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 ok, i've got osx to boot in vmware, but only the once, straight after install. if i reset the virtual machine and try to restart it an error is displayed saying the partition table has changed and i need to remove and add it again, at which point it becomes unbootable. i've checked with macdrive and all the files are there and the partition is reported as hfs+ but if i try to boot using the chain0 method i get a chain0 error. any ideas on how i can get it to boot natively? would a 3rd party boot selector work (like grub or acronis)? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-200486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minipulator Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 bigeasy, that happened to me after installing via vmware as well. it happens to me even now that i have osx working, that's not actually a bad thing. vmware is correct, the partition has changed. you can create a new virtual machine to point to the same partition, and it shouldn't give you that error, but it might not work anyways (doesn't in mine). to answer your question, yes, a third party boot loader works fine. I took the advice of one of the other threads here and using extended fdisk under hiren's boot cd to install my own boot loader. works perfectly. knowing grub, i'm sure that would work too. chain0 didn't work for me either, btw. SABR, Sorry to say that those guides didn't help me accomplish my goals, however that's only because my audio and video hardware is currently unsupported. There is a thread dedicated to the sigmatel 92xx driver (with an active dev working on it) so I'm sure that my audio issues will be resolved soon. Video on my box is a ati x1900xt. I tried using the 1800 driver, but it didn't work. Oh well. Anyways, I wanted to say thank you. Thanks to those links I understand a lot more about the drivers under OSX than I did. And that was my main goal. Time will solve the lack-of-driver issue, and I am patient. heh. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-200804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeasy Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 i've finally got it working! thanks everyone for your help. i just had to change the partition type using acronis (it was showing up as fat for some odd reason). now i've got to try to get sound and networking up and running :-) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-202340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabr Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 i've finally got it working! thanks everyone for your help. i just had to change the partition type using acronis (it was showing up as fat for some odd reason). now i've got to try to get sound and networking up and running :-) This should help you with the sound: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Audio Also, try searching your Audio device and it will probably come up with something As for Networking, you might need to buy a compatible Network Interface Card, but sometimes onboard Ethernet is supported... Are you running natively or through VMWare? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-202362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotskip Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Followed all the instructions but I can't really get anywhere. I receive an error: "Non-system disk, press any key..." and I can't do anything. I've made sure it's boot from the CD-ROM first and I've tried using Daemon Tools and having the burnt DVD in the physical drive. - I've tried using the full disk and just the partition. - I'm using JaS and np101137 10.4.7 Server DVD RC1 from Demonoid Besides that problem I have some questions about setting up the VM. 1. Does the location (Below where you put in the VM name) matter ? I've left it at default (In My Documents somewhere) and tried other places. 2. Number of processors: I have a dual core processor so I chose two, would it affect anything ? Edit: Well, I tried it again about an hour later and I'm not sure what's changed but it goes fine and starts loading darwin but than it fails, here's a screenshot of the error. Ideas ? Edit: Changed it to Win NT and it's installing now. Wee, now there's some error mid installation. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-202549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabr Posted October 5, 2006 Author Share Posted October 5, 2006 Nope, it doesn't matter where the Virtual Machine is stored. However, I received that error in VMWare and I could not get round it (on a different computer). Some people have said adding "paevm = true" to the config file fixed it... http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=vmware+ke...-8&oe=utf-8 There'll be some useful tips to help you try and get round it. It may work. There is also a thread around here on this matter... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-202606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotskip Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Thanks SABR. I did some searching and find some weird tricks like changing to Windows NT and I now have it installed and working perfect ! Though, I didn't install the Server components and I think they had some problems, meh. Now, I have to figure out how set up the dual boot. I assume I make the HFS partition the Active one, boot into that and setup the bootloader inside OS X ? Or can I setup the HFS partition in boot.ini or something inside XP ? Off to search some more. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-202738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabr Posted October 5, 2006 Author Share Posted October 5, 2006 Thanks SABR. I did some searching and find some weird tricks like changing to Windows NT and I now have it installed and working perfect ! Though, I didn't install the Server components and I think they had some problems, meh. Now, I have to figure out how set up the dual boot. I assume I make the HFS partition the Active one, boot into that and setup the bootloader inside OS X ? Or can I setup the HFS partition in boot.ini or something inside XP ? Off to search some more. Well, if you had booted off the DVD disc, it would have made OSx86 the active partition, detected your NTFS (Windows) partition, and it automatically gives you a list of which partitoin to boot from. But since you installed from VMWare and only let it detect one partition, you're going to have to do it manually. http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=11339 Skip to Part Three. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-202996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotskip Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Yup, everything is set up fine now. Hell, even my network + audio are working now without having to do anything, woot ! ^_____^ At the moment I'm using the XP Bootloader /w chain0, till my OS X install is finalised / stable I won't use the Darwin Bootloader. Thanks SABR. I wouldn't have been able to install OS X fullstop (Hardware configuration problem) without this tutorial. I did a couple of small things differently, like I had network on NAT and it's working fine so far. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/11314-howto-from-vmware-to-native/page/14/#findComment-203243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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