Mac OS X 10.5.1 Almost Ready

Good, it means I'm closer to switching from X.4 to X.5

Uh,

One particular line of interest from the 10.5.1 seed, however, is a fix to "DesktopServices and moving files across partition." Could this be the remedy to the widely-reported Leopard data loss bug? Only developers can know for now, but stay tuned for the next episode of "As the Leopard Turns."

That is from Ars. At the bottom of the article.

OH. I get it, now. :censored2:

Fantastico!

oh my god... 9B13 ALREADY??

COOL!

well i guess that's good!

Leopard runs fine on all my macs though...

leak?

LOL,

When I read this post, I could picture all the people having prblems with thier 10.5 hackintosh.

NOW YOU HAVE START OVER......

oooo.. Apple became like vista. OSX leopard serivce pack ..

oooo.. Apple became like vista. OSX leopard serivce pack ..

This is the usual release of how OS X goes, I'd rather Apple fix bugs than a year later like poor Windows users have to wait. I understand this as a new OS X user, you should to.

Only issue I've seen so far is Safari crashing. It crashed as a 3.x beta on Tiger, and it still seems to crash now (not nearly as often though). Haven't had any other issues since moving to Leopard.

Vista will still suck after SP1, I'd wait until SP2. The host process crashes all the time, not to mention a slew of other things. I've yet to see it work without glitching on ANY pc. Leopard is definitely much higher quality, and quick attention to any little things missed is far better than waiting 2 years for a fix on an OS that never should have been launched.

"almost ready"? You're kidding. When a first build is seeded to developers, work has just started. From previous experience with 10.0-10.4, I'd say 10.5.1 won't be released 'til late November. 10.4.1 was, for example, released about a month after 10.4.

Wow. For a fresh, new operating system less than a month old, it is a bit unsettling to see that there is already an update to it. Is this software being made in Cupertino or Redmond?

Update - for ordinary mac thats cool.

Other thing is, the ][@K1Nt0$H.

Please, dont tell me, that i'll have to wait til xLEO .1 will be available in order to switch to my "Gigabyte PC"

Wow. For a fresh, new operating system less than a month old, it is a bit unsettling to see that there is already an update to it. Is this software being made in Cupertino or Redmond?

hahahhaha, im sure your not the only one wondering!

and hey, ill throw apple a bone, at least theyre fixing the issues, every launch os has plenty of bugs to still be squashed out and no code is perfect.

Wow. For a fresh, new operating system less than a month old, it is a bit unsettling to see that there is already an update to it. Is this software being made in Cupertino or Redmond?

Heh, if it was a product from Redmond, it would take at least a year to get things done and release an update.

Hopefully we'll see a lot more updates from Apple this year. The more, the merrier.

That's just stupid, people. Apple's always done that. When 10.5.0 is released, work on 10.5.1 starts. _Right_ away. 10.5.1 is released? 10.5.2 starts to be worked on. What do you expect? Did you *REALLY* think they'd work on Leopard until it's final and then wait in HQ twiddling their thumbs until some user finds "a bug to fix" and then solve that one by one?

Just think of it the other way 'round if you want to compare to Redmond: SP1 for Vista isn't out yet, about a year after Vista went RTM. And let's face it: People found issues with Vista the minute it was out, too. Let's just be glad Apple doesn't take a year like MS does...

What about getting back Finder's old Keyboard Shortcuts, I hate the new ones

Personally I think it shows a commitment to customer-satisfaction on Apple's part that they begin work on fixing bugs right away, rather than waiting and making their users suffer with an inferior OS for over a year before doing anything to fix it like a certain other manufacturer does.

I'm looking forward to the update, and good on them.

Maybe this will fix my Time Machine issues

oooo.. Apple became like vista. OSX leopard serivce pack ..

So patching stuff is bad now?

I guess daily apt-get update on my debian box (running Lenny) is something to worry about. Seriously though, were we not running 10.4.10 before moving to Leo? Is it news that Apple doesn't stay at .0 for very long? I just don't get why I'm seeing all of these "service pack" comments around the net, like it's a new thing that Apple pushes out new updates.

So patching stuff is bad now?

 

I guess daily apt-get update on my debian box (running Lenny) is something to worry about. Seriously though, were we not running 10.4.10 before moving to Leo? Is it news that Apple doesn't stay at .0 for very long? I just don't get why I'm seeing all of these "service pack" comments around the net, like it's a new thing that Apple pushes out new updates.

I agree - There's nothing wrong with patching things - and certainly nothing wrong with patching them quickly.

"almost ready"? You're kidding. When a first build is seeded to developers, work has just started. From previous experience with 10.0-10.4, I'd say 10.5.1 won't be released 'til late November. 10.4.1 was, for example, released about a month after 10.4.

I believe 10.4.1 was released about 2 weeks after 10.4.

I believe 10.4.1 was released about 2 weeks after 10.4.

3rd week actually. But yeah, they usually get right on it.

Apple ships all software with known bugs. That's just how development works. They identify what bugs need to be fixed first and when to fix them and they aim for those goals. Things that ended up being too involved to get fixed for the 10.5.0 release and aren't too serious (or things that weren't known at the time) get targeted for a 10.5.1 fix. As soon as 10.5.0 went GM they started working on the other bugs that were targeted for a 10.5.1 release. They likely have a list of bugs that intend to be fixed in 10.5.2 and 10.5.3 as well.

The only serious problem that I have with Leopard is Safari. It is unstable as hell--constantly crashing. I guess this could be either Safari-related or Webkit-related, but either way, I'd absolutely love a link for this build. That, and the Finder does seem to crash--infrequently, but it never crashed in Tiger (I think it hung instead ).