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EFiX: OSx86 gone commercial?


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efi-x.com, last updated June 9th, claims to offer the ability to install OS 10 on a non mac with the retail disc. The EFiX website states:

EFiX is the best solution for installing and using Mac OS X on your PC.

It allows its user to install Mac OS X straight from the original DVD without having to worry about patches,

replacing files and anything like that.

That means you can buy a regular PC, Mac OS X and EFiX and enjoy what the Mac users have always enjoyed:

unmodified Mac OS X on your computer, safe, easy and fast, exactly the way it should be.

 

The development of EFiX took a lot of time.

During the development phase, we had to deal with various problems, including sabotage.

This process also involved testing, which has been conducted for the last 6 months in production environments.

Industry leading professionals(who work for TV stations, recording studios and many others) rely on EFiX and Mac OS X running on standard PC hardware to get their tasks done.

 

EFiX is in the final testing phase.

All the testing has went far better than what we expected and the testers have given positive feedback.

 

We have planned to release it on 23rd of June, 2008. More information will be added soon.

Longtime OSx86 contributor netkas has posted EFiX in action on his blog. According to netkas, EFiX is hardware which plugs into your USB port.

 

As the June 23rd release approaches, many questions about EFiX remain unanswered:

-Is it an EFI emulator like PC_EFI or Chameleon?

-Is the USB device required every time you boot or just during installation?

-While this device may allow OS 10 to be installed, won't the driver situation be just like that of the OSx86 project?

-How will Apple respond to this?

-Will EFiX's EFI implementation be usable on traditional OSx86 DVDs?

 

Something of note is the EFiX contact page:

International dealers:

(If you can not find dealers in your region please contact us)

Germany

Россия

Украина

Taiwan R.O.C.

P.R.China

Japan

Korea

Notice here that the United States, along with many other countries are ignored. Also, netkas who has a sample of the device, stated:

they don't plan to sell it in US.

 

So, forget about dmcs in this case.

Thoughts?


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But man if it worked to install using the retail leo and upgrade to 10.5.3 on my old steam engine Mobo Asus P4P800se P4 3Ghz cpu it just has to be possible for a whole lot others to do the same. Once you figured out how to interpret the sticky ;) (and that one can easily be rewritten so it´s easier to understand even for thouse of us that does´nt have english as first language) it was´nt hard to install. Man I´m typing this from it now, it´s been running perfect for over 10 hours now. So why pay for this and for the OS, better give apple the money maby they let us be then.

 

An Italian guy found out that a lowprized Intel mobo with onboard graphics and cpu works pretty much out of the box. So for round 250 - 300 euros you can get your mac and OSX (no monitor though) that should work as an ordinary home/family computer. So I say if you want a cheap mac this is the way to go and you´d be supporting apple maby feel a bit better bout this thing at the same time.

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Disclaimer: I do not know what this device is, so this is speculation only.

 

I suspect that this device on a USB dongle is a BIOS chip, with extended BIOS on it, that gets invoked during POST. From then on it can simulate the EFI from a mac, and continue to boot.

 

This has been done before for PCs. There is a company called ScaleMP, that makes Parallel and USB dongles, that contain BIOS extensions to allow you to connect multiple machines together (through Infinniband), and the OS (Windows or Linux) thinks the machine is a large multi-processor machine, not 4 or 8 processors, but 32 or 64 processors.

 

Just a thought.

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Now we just need some shops to open up who'll sell those people in the United States a bag of cat litter in a USB box for our Snow Leopard needs, if you catch my drift.

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I don't like this...

 

Thats your problem.

 

 

It's easier to just buy the retail DVD patch it yourself and you're done. Here you have to buy something else.

 

Indeed! Its very hard to plug an USB-Device into an socket. Its much easier to rip an DVD, patch it, burn it.

Also to buy that device is just very hard and needs years of How-To-Buy-Something knowledge!

 

ROTFLMAO ;)

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I am more interested in how they will handle the post installation of retail DVD... whats gonna happen to all those crucial Kexts? It wouldn't make things any easier for those of us who have already gone through all those painful trail and errors... if they are only providing solution for EFI sim on a USB

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netkas and stella must be having allot of fun reading this thread, heh.

 

You guys crack me up. You all are speculating like crazy, but I guess that's all you can do.

 

I'll give you a hint...

 

...

 

 

It lets you run OS X on a PC.

 

-Stell

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What we need to have is governing body to set standards of EFI (like those of USB and IEEE) for everyone to follow. Or pay up the royalties and use Intel's EFI. Board manufacturers have been doing this with the chipsets from Intel.
That's exactly what we have with EFI. It's an open standard looked after by the United EFI Forum which is non-profit corporation withresponsibility for the management and promotion of the EFI specification. PC manufacturers are moving over to using EFI instead of PC BIOS although generally it i only 64-bit processors/OSes that can use EFI. Itanium has used EFI to boot 64-bit Windows, HP-UX & OpenVMSsince those OSes were available on that platform. With 64-bit versions of Windows Vista SP1 & Windows Server 2008 Microsoft now supports x64 processors booting with EFI.
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Hahaha. We are so busy dreaming about the possible features of efi-x that seems that nobody realised that stellarola, who talked to one of the devs, recommended to get a mobo with ALC889A because it will have the audio working natively. And that means that people with that mobos may have it working without any additional driver or kext!

 

So maybe we should start looking for that motherboards (according to Taruga's site relation between chipset/mobo):

GA-X38-DS5

GA-P35-DS3R

GA-P35-DS3 (rev 1)

GA-G33M-DS2R

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ALC888 is pretty close to ALC889A, I wouldn't be surprised if that might work, too. But you know all this is pointless, audio can be EASILY patched with a kext, the things that can't be patched with kexts easily are powermanagement, fan control, sleep, shutdown, and restart. Those are the things I will be looking for in this device.

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True...

Anyway look at what they say in their site:

EFiX also brings some other advantages for users of standard PCs, such as:

- Online updates of EFiX firmware.

- EMI & RFI protection.

- An Interactive system boot selector.

-Working power management Features such as Shutdown, Reset, etc.

But I honestly don't think they could do it as if it were an Apple computer... that must be really difficult

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the whole efix thing is quite funny with all the claims and {censored} being talked... netkas maybe a good programmer/hacker etc... but he is a liar and cheater by using others works as well... i posted in his site many times saying some negative thoughts about how he reacted to pystar things with crying out loud for efi as if he did it himself he never published my comments... he knows he doesnt own efi project so he doesnt let people know it either... he is a good stealer indeed... he uses people's work and later acts as the owner of codes... and now efix got a sample and testing it is all {censored}... they are using efi standard in an emulation environment, and claiming copyrights and with the device they make a copy protection built-in... how ironic...

 

the usb can only be the additional missing pieces that were not done through efi bootloaders... it is just adding (most likely) hacked code from real mac's efi and try to do business with it...

 

isnt this the same netkas complained when pystar used (claimed to be) his efi version? now using the same technics... how ironic...

So is EFiX just a usb device where I could copy the files to an existing USB thumb drive?

Absolutely not! EFiX is neither a memory stick or thumb drive.

It is a completely unique device with very intricate protection above and beyond your wildest imagination.

 

just laughing...

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