10.5.2 Not Out Yet, But it Fixes 130+ Bugs

1.2GB!!!!!

holy {censored}

come on come on!!

I'd rather they take their time and get it right than rush it with bugs.

And OMG to "This will take 1.2 GB of space on your computer.". That's like another whole OS size. Some of my OS X installations are <2 GB which is pretty close to this

EDIT: Damn you socal swimmer, you beat me to it even though I was the first one here

No... it can't be... does that sound a little bit vaguely like Microsoft?

Uh-oh...

I can't wait for this update, is driving me crazy

Cant wait!! this is taking to loooooong!

This should fix a lot of problems and some new features support is also welcomed.

my safari encountered white screen of death .. that's a bug?!

The update doesn't make the system any more noticably slower, so no need to panic just because the extracted size ends up being 1.2gb.. it just takes up a bit of drive space. =x

I have no worries at all have loads of hard space at my disposal!

maybe it only takes up a 100mb and the rest is just replacing old bugged files !?

no wait it says, this will TAKE 1,2gb

ohwell, so the small sized osx days are over. get tiger if you want smaller.

I wouldn't worry about it just yet. A lot of stuff refers to taking up vast amounts of space, however it is just for decompression and compression and really doesn't use all of that space but during the install procedure.

Hope that update will work without any problems on the hackintoshs maybe they need so long to block our projects

I didn't know there were so many bugs... I only found a couple

*Keeps pressing the software update button*

Also, did you know that if you press Option and then on the Apple icon, you get get into system profiler instantly?

(I kept using spotlight >_<)

Well I'm going crazy waiting for this update. I swear if I don't get some 10.5.2 update goodness soon my head will explode.

They're getting there, very slowly. Apple just keeps seeding new builds to developers, even though the previous ones don't have any known bugs.

Actually, the previous seeds did/do have bugs. Some of which are/were rather serious and others were even introduced in new builds.

Bear in mind that Apple uses the .2 update as their most extensive issue resolving and stability update. This is unlike the .1 update which is used to address the most serious of issues in the shortest time possible. We do all want Apple to get things right don't we?

Actually, the previous seeds did/do have bugs. Some of which are/were rather serious and others were even introduced in new builds.

 

Bear in mind that Apple uses the .2 update as their most extensive issue resolving and stability update. This is unlike the .1 update which is used to address the most serious of issues in the shortest time possible. We do all want Apple to get things right don't we?

Actually, 9C23(or whatever the previous seed was) didn't have any known bugs. Nor does this one.

I am still hitting the Software Update button twice a day...

It is better to hold a bit, than wait again for 10.5.3.

I think it's good that 10.5.2 will fix so many issues, but still I think that shows clearly that Leopard wasn't a finished/final product when it was released - I guess Apple just released it earlier because they set themselves under pressure with the release date (end of October 2007).

^^ ditto on that, Cyman. 130+ bugs is a lot. Personally, I just hope they get Safari's DOM engine to run better. As of now, stuff like google maps, gmail, etc. are pretty crippled (hope that's not just me though). Oh, and I guess the new graphics updates will be nice too

Also, I can't help but notice that everyone commenting in this thread is an Intel user. Are you guys expecting little-to-no patching when the update drops? I don't think us AMD users are going to be so lucky, even with Marvin's utility and EFI Anyone care to comment?

Criiiiiickey, now thats a hefty package you got there.

I think it's good that 10.5.2 will fix so many issues, but still I think that shows clearly that Leopard wasn't a finished/final product when it was released - I guess Apple just released it earlier because they set themselves under pressure with the release date (end of October 2007).

I'm sorry but i disagree with that statement completely. What os does not update their OS? IT Would be un loyal like and unprofessional to not update their software daily. Sir i beleive you use Windows or Microsoft products. Just because they does not say their arent bugs. Does not mean they arent exploitable to a extent of any customer knowledge that's a big problem with closed source software really.

Fixing bugs means they are perfected their products. All software has bugs if it has a lot of code. Nothing is bug less . Never let any company tell you otherwise. Software always needs to be updated because software is always changing into greater, stronger sources and technologies. Mainly Operating systems and Security and compatibility.

I'm sorry but i disagree with that statement completely. What os does not update their OS? IT Would be un loyal like and unprofessional to not update their software daily. Sir i beleive you use Windows or Microsoft products. Just because they does not say their arent bugs. Does not mean they arent exploitable to a extent of any customer knowledge that's a big problem with closed source software really.

Fixing bugs means they are perfected their products. All software has bugs if it has a lot of code. Nothing is bug less . Never let any company tell you otherwise. Software always needs to be updated because software is always changing into greater, stronger sources and technologies. Mainly Operating systems and Security and compatibility.

Excuse me, did you have a look on my signature? I am a Mac user! Of course it is normal that a OS keeps being patched constantly, I am not naive, I have been using Windows for over twelve years until I switched to Apple. I would have done so years before, if I had had the money to afford a Mac. Anyway, it is the pure size of the upcoming 10.5.2 update and the great number of bugfixes which makes me conclude that Leopard was an unfinished product when it was released!

If I may defend Cyman's statement, I think all he was trying to say was that Apple should have waited a bit longer before jumping the gun and releasing Leopard when they did. It's obvious that any piece of software is going to have bugs - but sometimes there are small bugs, and sometimes there are big bugs. Leopard clearly has some big bugs, and not only that, but it has many bugs. If you don't believe that, then remember that they are fixing 130+ of them in 10.5.2, and that's after the release of 10.5.1. That means that 10.5 started with perhaps over 200 bugs. I'm no OS developer, but that seems like a hefty number. So perhaps pushing the initial release back a month would have helped a bit and saved some headaches? Or not? They say there's no better beta test than the final release to the public, right? It's all theory - I just like to analyze a bit too much Regardless, I'm never in a hurry to receive something if it means that the end product will save me some hassles in the end. Hell, I'd gladly wait another month for Apple on this 10.5.2 update if it meant not having to anticipate a much-needed 10.5.3 release two weeks later. I can tell by the howls in these forums that I am definitely alone on this issue

cheers,

agra

I agree with you agrafuese. Of course I and everbody else was so excited about Leopard, but I guess there would have been less excitement by the end of October if Apple had said they'd release 10.5 by Christmas. So, of course the people urged Apple to release it like promised and the other way round Apple would have lost credibility (it's all about the image of a company like Apple, think about the Apple stocks and how they rise and fall, so a delay could quickly resolve in a drop of the Apple stocks value) and therefore money! And as you said, Apple is also totally right concerning their beta test quote! Anyway it's way better to release a reliable and stable program than doing the opposite, which can result in even bigger losses than postponing a product (a good example is the XBOX360 fault rate - although it all seems to be more of a part of MS (long-time) strategy to increase/improve it's market position). But of course we all know that OS X is a good and reliable product despite the fact that Leopard may contain a huge number of bugs. In the end I remember a lot of users who wanted it as fast as possible whining about Leopard and the deception following when they finally had it installed! People (especially a great number of Apple users) never seem to be satisfied, but then worship Steve Jobs and everything from Apple Inc. like it was a religion!