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I was one of the unfortunate public who was persuaded to participate in a survey and the end result was a fully licensed copy of Vista Business edition.

 

Within an hour, Vista had locked up thoroughly several times on my hardware specs listed in my signature.

 

It was the straw that broke the Camels back!!! :thumbsup_anim:

 

I'm listing the software (Unregistered) on Craigslist and will apply the selling price towards a Mac-Mini - My hackintosh experience has been somewhat frustrating since I had to search for close to 2 weeks to find a working IONetworkingFamily.kext - but once I did, my machine flies!!!

 

I only wish I had seen the light sooner - The MAC OS is a far superior platform for what I do and the bloatware that Microshaft is selling to the general public - well, they should be ashamed of themselves...

 

Anyone interested in a fully legit copy of Vista Business 32 bit???

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devilhood
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I was one of the unfortunate public who was persuaded to participate in a survey and the end result was a fully licensed copy of Vista Business edition.

 

Within an hour, Vista had locked up thoroughly several times on my hardware specs listed in my signature.

 

It was the straw that broke the Camels back!!! :D

 

I'm listing the software (Unregistered) on Craigslist and will apply the selling price towards a Mac-Mini - My hackintosh experience has been somewhat frustrating since I had to search for close to 2 weeks to find a working IONetworkingFamily.kext - but once I did, my machine flies!!!

 

I only wish I had seen the light sooner - The MAC OS is a far superior platform for what I do and the bloatware that Microshaft is selling to the general public - well, they should be ashamed of themselves...

 

Anyone interested in a fully legit copy of Vista Business 32 bit???

 

Vista isn't bloated, it's InsanelyGood imho, albeit the fact that it loves newer hardware more.

 

I have it installed on a RAID-0 Array, and the performance is quite charming actually, the GUI is silky smooth and I haven't experienced a single crash yet.

I disable the annoying UAC, upgraded my Forceware drivers to the very latest modded ones and everything is great.

First thing I did during the first week of installing it was to power-app test like mad, and I didn't get any problems except for the fact that I'm stuck with NOD32 Anti-Virus until Kaspersky AV Final comes out.

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erbic
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MSDN perhaps, but retailers aren't supposed to sell it until the 30th. :blink:

 

Anyway, I've had the BillGates torrent release of Vista Ultimate RTM on two computers in my house ever since it went RTM. It is my Boot Camp Windows installation, since XP sucks. The only time Vista's locked up on me was disabling a particular driver, and I fixed that with a new one.

Technobob
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I have been playing around with Vista since the alpha days and I have never liked it. I would spend my first hour of using it killing a billion useless services, programs and eye candy. One positive thing I can say about Vista is that it made it easier for me to decide to switch to OSX :P

tripleboot
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I got my copies of Vista business and Office 2007 yesterday in the mail. If you have run any of the earlier builds of Vista or RC1-2 or RTM you will know how sluggish and stubborn Vista can be on people PC's, yet there are just as many people that report Vista running smoothly and with very little problems. Just as XP was when it first came out before a billion critical updates and SP2- There are already a ton of tweaks for Vista and needless servies you can disable to help your Vista run much more smoothly. It is still very early in the game for there to be any viable opinions on the credibility of the OS.

 

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=499870

 

Warning:

These tips are for power users only - don’t change system settings unless you know what you are doing!

 

VISTA Tips and Tricks list:

 

1. Disable Windows defender

Open control panel- click classic view.

Open defender - it’s at the bottom, next to Firewall and other stuff like Sidebar.

Click Tools - then Options - and untick everything you see, such as:

Untick automatically scan my PC

scroll down, untick use real time protection

untick advanced options, click save

If user access control is on, you may get a warning. Click continue.

 

2. Disable User Access Control

 

On most versions of Vista, User Access Control is enabled - basically this is a security procedure which warns you before you (or any application) enables to do something considered risky, e.g. modifying system settings. Disable it only if you know what you are doing.

Open Control Panel

Open User Accounts

Click turn user account control on/off.

Untick use user access control

click OK (you may need to restart).

 

3. Turn off hibernation

 

If you don’t use the hibernation feature, you can disable it and recover around a gigabyte of hard disk space.

 

To do this, run “powercfg - H off”

 

4. Press Alt

 

In most windows, you can get the traditional menu (File, Edit, View..) by just tapping the Alt key.

 

5. Turn on hidden files view

In any drive window, click Alt, then click Tools - Folder Options

Click View tab

Select Show hidden files and folders.

You can also untick various other annoying “Idiot mode” options like Hide extensions for known file types, and “Remember each folders view settings”.

 

6. Disable the sidebar

If you get tired of the sidebar, you can disable it easily via the control panel.

Open Control Panel - Sidebar Properties

Untick start sidebar when windows starts

 

7. Move swap file to another drive/partition

 

If you have another drive, you can speed up Vista a bit by moving the swap file to that drive. Even if you are using only one drive, moving the swap file to another partition is useful (if you intend to back up your primary partiton via a compressed mirror, saving space on the primary partition will speed up the process and reduce the backup file size).

Press Windows + Pause/break key

Click advanced system settings

Click the advanced tab

Click the settings button

Now click Advanced (yes I know this is a bit confusing)

Under virtual memory click change

Untick automatically manage

Select the new drive/partition you want to use for swap file and click system managed, click set (Note: Unlike Ubuntu, windows will not wipe the drive or partition - instead it just makes a file called pagefile.sys).

To cancel the swap file on C click C and select no page file, click set

 

8. Disable unnecessary services

 

Warning - disabling services can cause your system to behave unpredictably, reduce security, not boot at all, or rupture the space-time continuum. Proceed with caution, only if you know what you are doing:

 

Navigate to: control panel - administrative tools - services Then try disabling the following (doubleclick, select disabled under startup type, click OK).

Background Intelligent Transfer Service

DHCP client

Diagnostic policy service

Diagnostic System Host

Distributed link tracking client

DNS client

IP Helper

Offline Files (See http://207.46.197.98/Windows/en-US/Help/93...2f59591033.mspx for more info on what this is)

Portable Device Enumerator Service

ReadyBoost (if you are not using this feature (no flash drive)

Secondary Logon (This may prevent you from using the “Run As/Run as Administrator” option.

Security Center (prolly kills off defender etc).

Shell Hardware Detection Service (Kills autorun - and good riddance).

SSDP discovery (Something to do with UPNP devices. Darned if I know or care)

Superfetch (This is Vista’s amazing caching service. Think of it as Vista’s Smartdrv. In theory it will slow down some operations but AFAIK it didn’t make much of a difference, and released a LOT of RAM).

System Event Notification Service.

Tablet PC input service (If no.. tablet PC?).

Terminal Serives.

Web client.

Windows Defender (First disable it from control panel).

Windows Error Reporting.

Windows Event Log.

Windows Image Acquisition (if no scanner and you are using your digital camera via a card reader).

Windows Search (This is that annoying indexing utility. Keep it if you need to find files fast).

Windows Time.

Windows Update (if you can’t manually update, turn this back on).

Print spooler (if you dont have a printer).

Tip: Don’t disable task scheduler as defragment depends on it.

 

9. Setting up custom network settings

Vista will usually automatically detect your network, but if you need to set it up manually, heres how:

Right click the Network Icon on the taskbar

click Network and Sharing center

Click the blue View Status link (if it’s not visible, ensure your cable is plugged in and click connect..)

Click properties

Doubleclick Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4)

Enter your custom network configuration (The IP for this PC, the subnet, default gateway and DNS server - gateway and DNS server are usually your routers IP.

You may need to restart your PC.

 

After restarting, you can select your type of network (e.g. Home) and you are good to go.

joe75
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So basically you want to make a quick buck off of software you got for free.

Where the hell did that comment come from :rolleyes: tripleboot offers some good tips, though I would imagine most serious users of vista already take care of that {censored} during the first few start ups.

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tripleboot
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So basically you want to make a quick buck off of software you got for free.

 

I think you misunderstood me somehow. It must be my broken English slang you obviously missed.

 

Regardless the information is becoming more available on a daily basis and more so with the official release. The full potential of Vista will not be reached for a year or two. Direct X 10 has just been born. It will take months, years before the majority of games are developed to show off its capability. I don't believe the majority of people are willing to pay $600 for a Direct X 10 capable video card right now.

 

If people are dual booting with XP they need to be prepared to run into problems unless they know what they are doing.

planetbeing
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Odd. Vista is faster than XP on my setup. I have a X2 4400+ and only 2GB of RAM, but otherwise it's not dissimilar. Out of curiosity, what's your Windows Experience Index? Mine is 4.9. It's a lot snappier than OS X on my computer, but I probably would blame that on the fact I installed it on a click-of-death-y hard drive and my CPU doesn't have SSE3 extensions.... but there's this as well: Microsoft Vista Faster on a Mac Pro Than Apple's Own OS X

 

If the computer is locking up, it's probably because of the drivers you have on it. Try running Windows Update. Also I hear NVidia's Vista drivers aren't really there yet at all. I have an ATI card, so things are pretty smooth, but if you are running an old NVidia driver, that could be the reason.

 

However, having to implement that huge list of tweaks just to get the OS to work properly on a modern machine like that is completely unreasonable. Anyway, sorry to hear you're having problems with Vista as well as that nForce LAN. =P

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tripleboot
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Odd. Vista is faster than XP on my setup. I have a X2 4400+ and only 2GB of RAM, but otherwise it's not dissimilar. Out of curiosity, what's your Windows Experience Index? Mine is 4.9. It's a lot snappier than OS X on my computer, but I probably would blame that on the fact I installed it on a click-of-death-y hard drive and my CPU doesn't have SSE3 extensions.... but there's this as well: Microsoft Vista Faster on a Mac Pro Than Apple's Own OS X

 

If the computer is locking up, it's probably because of the drivers you have on it. Try running Windows Update. Also I hear NVidia's Vista drivers aren't really there yet at all. I have an ATI card, so things are pretty smooth, but if you are running an old NVidia driver, that could be the reason.

 

However, having to implement that huge list of tweaks just to get the OS to work properly on a modern machine like that is completely unreasonable. Anyway, sorry to hear you're having problems with Vista as well as that nForce LAN. =P

 

Several Vista forceware drivers out now for Nvidia. The tweaks you see now for Vista will later be part of a service pack, just like SP2 was for XP. Vista is rough around the edges for sure. In some of the earlier builds of Vista beta program my PC ran faster then some of the later builds. ? It is a pain in the butt, but a couple of the services running on your Vista if you disable them might make a significant difference.

 

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?id=10

Forceman
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Vista isn't bloated, it's InsanelyGood imho, albeit the fact that it loves newer hardware more.

 

I have it installed on a RAID-0 Array, and the performance is quite charming actually, the GUI is silky smooth and I haven't experienced a single crash yet.

I disable the annoying UAC, upgraded my Forceware drivers to the very latest modded ones and everything is great.

First thing I did during the first week of installing it was to power-app test like mad, and I didn't get any problems except for the fact that I'm stuck with NOD32 Anti-Virus until Kaspersky AV Final comes out.

 

You Windows freaks make me laugh, time and time again i've heard "I haven't experienced a single crash yet" , well it's not been out for a week give it time :(

 

I've had more uptime on Linux that you Vista people had had in Vista with your BSOD. Dont give me the {censored} about Forceware for Vista been great because there is 9 pages and counting of complaints about at nvnews forums.

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