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ecotopian

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I got a brand new comp with Vista, guess what I did? Got rid of Vista. My experience was mixed. While it was nice looking, and in some respects, did perform fairly well. However, the interface, albeit nice looking, wasn't too handy, and things like Flip3D just aren't as useful as expose. I prefer dashboard to sidebar. It just always seemed that my hard drive was CONSTANTY grinding, no matter what I did, and the UI didn't feel responsive. Now, on Core 2 Duo E4300, 1 GB PC2 DDR2 533, 320 GB HDD, and GMA 950, that really shouldn't be the case, as it is so much better on OS X. I installed literally 7 programs, that with Xp, took about 6 GB of disk space, in Vista, I was already out 53 GB.

 

I'm going to give vista more time to mature before I ever go back. If you are having good performance out of your workhorse on Vista, you can get more performance from another OS.

Kenta
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Vista for me has been wonderful.

I've been using it since the 3xxx builds in 2004 (2003?) and in the RC+ builds have never had a crash besides trying to overclock or messing around with system files.

 

XP was a piece of {censored}, and if it weren't for the fact that I didn't have my 2000 disc I wouldn't have used it at all.

 

Vista has a huge performance leap over XP, and the stability is better too.

But then again I've had problems with my other PC, which is an Athlon XP. It crashes every week or so. But that is most likey caused from the CPU Die, which has been causing problems with every OS I used on it since I tried overclocking it.

 

Some of the new featues are useless, like Aero. There are many places in the Aero interface where the text is unreadable, even with the glow. It is annoying as hell. And UAC! UAC is a sorry excuse for security. I guess Microsoft thinks security is spamming you with popups asking to input a password THAT THEY DO NOT EVEN GIVE YOU THE CHANCE TO SET DURING INSTALLATION! So that means it is useless to 90% of Windows users who don't know how to open control panel and set a password for the admin account. Worse yet. All the users still have that higher than user, lower than admin privlage.

 

The start menu is also pretty bloated. It may just be my computer but it is very unresponsive and laggy. It is a good concept, but it's slow, too compact to have a tree menu, and confusing by not having icons next to the system short cuts (Computer, Documents, etc,) I love the built in search box on the start menu though.

 

One of the best featues of Vista, which I have not seen in any OS is seperate volume levels for each open appliction producing sound. No more having to listen to Ads that have sound or crappy geocities sites with embedded music playing in the background. Just turn down the volume on Firefox!

 

Speaking of which, the new sound scheme is {censored}. It sound nice and is better than the classic one used in previous versions, but the sounds have subtle differences, and are very quiet. I had to turn the system volume up and turn everything else lower just to hear them. This is a problem. I should be able to CLEARLY hear a DISTINCT sound while listening to my music.

 

The sidebar is great too. Easy to code for, lightweight, and not that intrusive. It just needs som more time to get some better gadgets.

 

In my opinion the icons are ugly. Orange and Green? I don't see that in the theme, I see black, blue, and green. Where they got that ugly orange I don't know.

 

DWM, well, I didn't really notice any performance loss, but then again I wasn't looking for any either. It does what it is supposed to and seems to work smoothly without slowing other stuff down. Not to mention dreamscene (The video wallpaper thing) works a lot better than anything else I've used that does the same thing. But it still takes a huge performance hit when running. I'd wait until it's out of beta before using it constanlty.

 

I don't think there is much else to say besides the fact that the 3 times I upgraded Vista (trying to crack it) went smoothly and had no dataloss. Everything was working out of the box, and I had no problems what so ever.

robotskip
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3xxx builds would be 2002 and they aren't really relevant to what is out now. I'm also assuming you just used leaked versions of which a fair few were modified. :hysterical:

 

You do get to set a password, after Vista finishes copying the files/expanding it and reboots you choose the time, create an account and set a password (If you want).

 

Read these about UAC:

 

http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsv...onvenience.aspx

http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=1602

tripleboot
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Its my first Post on this forums, so it might as well be about vista. Oh and Hello everyone! :)

 

Vista Seems to be a clone of Mac OSX, which in some ways is not bad. Here is my problems that I see.

 

In the IT world is all the extra flashy stuff going to do anything other than make us buy more ram and better GFX Cards?

~ Not really...

 

Is this Microsoft's way of making more money instead of making XP better?

~ Yep!

 

I will not go on but I just think if they cant even get the online games with MSN.com to work on the stupid system then what the hell is it good for. :P

 

Honestly I think it will be a great OS later on after the first SP comes out but as for today... not so much.

My 2Cents on it

 

Dice :)

 

Welcome to the forum. Allot of comparisons to OSX. I have Business installed for about a week now and its running flawlessly. As I mentioned before there is allot more under the hood to Vista then how it looks like OSX, but its difficult for people to get past this issue. Soon the memory will be build into the processors and there will be no need for memory modules-sticks. The same way DVD will soon be a thing of the past with flash memory replacing DVD as a media. Blue Ray will never make it. How many people will be willing waste $25 on one BR disk and chance a bad burn. Not me.

Kenta
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Welcome to the forum. Allot of comparisons to OSX. I have Business installed for about a week now and its running flawlessly. As I mentioned before there is allot more under the hood to Vista then how it looks like OSX, but its difficult for people to get past this issue. Soon the memory will be build into the processors and there will be no need for memory modules-sticks. The same way DVD will soon be a thing of the past with flash memory replacing DVD as a media. Blue Ray will never make it. How many people will be willing waste $25 on one BR disk and chance a bad burn. Not me.

 

 

Wait, what?

 

HD DVD is going to take over DVD and I don't think we will see flash replacing optical mediums any time soon due to the fact that it a lot more to make flash than it an optical disc.

And I'm sure no one wanted to buy a $25 dollar DVD back in the day either.

 

And putting memory on the processor would be ideal for speed, it wouldn't be for the extra heat, increased chip size, and the one main reason we have sticks of memory. And that is that we can up/down grade them for cheap. Instead of having to buy a new processor when we want that extra 1GB of ram and spending $200 we can spend $60 for a new stick. I could see this being great use for embedded systems though.

tripleboot
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Wait, what?

 

HD DVD is going to take over DVD and I don't think we will see flash replacing optical mediums any time soon due to the fact that it a lot more to make flash than it an optical disc.

And I'm sure no one wanted to buy a $25 dollar DVD back in the day either.

 

And putting memory on the processor would be ideal for speed, it wouldn't be for the extra heat, increased chip size, and the one main reason we have sticks of memory. And that is that we can up/down grade them for cheap. Instead of having to buy a new processor when we want that extra 1GB of ram and spending $200 we can spend $60 for a new stick. I could see this being great use for embedded systems though.

 

Flash memory has already replaced re-writeable media and it is happening as we speak. Gates himself announced this recently at a conference. "It is the last physical format there will ever be. Everything's going to be streamed directly or on a hard disk."

Flash storage to win over HD-DVD and Blu-ray

As for memory there won't be upgrading needed, as it will be the same for everyone. The technology can't keep up with itself. The information is out there and the research and developement is happening right now if you do your research.

Kenta
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Gates must be on crack. We've already made creditcard sized optical media that can hold much more than anyother portable media we have now. So if anything, optical is going to have a major evolution.

 

Not to mention that most people have dial up, or don't have internet at all. And even if they do have a computer, not everyone want to hook their PC up to their TV.

I can't see where Gates is going with this. It'd be really nice if it would happen in the ideal fashion Gates is looking, but it won't happen.

 

And if I have a problem with my internet, I would like to use an external medium to do things.

 

Flash is great, don't get me wrong, but optical will be around for at least one more generation after HD DVD and Bluray.

 

And why wouldn't we want memory upgrades? Unless I am missing something I can't understand why we would need to have memory built in on the processor. If I upgrade my system I build upon what I have. It's been that way for 10 years. The only time I had to upgrade a lot of stuff is when I got my CPU, but if ii would've had built in memory, I would've only had 512MB or 1GB, and it'd be slower ram too, since I only update to last generation CPUs. I'm using an Athlon 64, but it's a socket 754. I don't need dual channel RAM or PCIe. I'm fine with what I have, plus it is very cheap to upgrade too.

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