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[HowTo] XP + OSX 10.4.4-10.4.8 native dual boot

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graphic Design
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@graphicDesign:

I guess you mean like when we log-off a user of Win2k-XP and quickly log-on another user?

 

Well in this case we have to compare with a multiboot between WinXP and, say, a Linux distro: we need the reboot between the native installs. Fortunately booting on osx (and linuxes) is quick.

 

If you just want to transfer files, you could use TransMac for windows to access hsf+ partitions, or osx can just read/write FATxx partitions and read NTFS partitions.

 

But if you really want them to be both on at the same time, an alternative would be to access your native osx install through building a virtual machine (with vmware), even if you didn't do the vmware-to-native kind of install; but osx is slow working in vmware.

 

One of these days Parallels will be able to access a native windows partition, at least I hope so, and you could do the above through osx.

 

Apart from that, I don't know how else to answer your question; we'll have to wait better virtualisation technologies (xen and xen-alikes) that will come with newer intel and amd multi-cores. Then we might be able to have multiple parallel native installs between which we could simply switch... at least that's what we're being promised. Others better informed than me can tell you about this.

 

Thanks for infomation!!! :)

OSX-fan
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OK well I've burnt the ISO and it appears to load ok on my Samsung laptop but NOT on my main desktop 3ghz pc, getting the no entry sign. Any way to sort this or is it simply that my Asus P4S533-X mb / chipset / whatever doe'snt won't to know ?

 

10 mins and still waiting for OSX to load :-(

drkrack
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With chain0 method, when you select osx, rapidly press F8 key, and you should see the darwin boot options (including winxp!); select osx and boot. Later you can change the time the darwin boot options stay before the default boot.

hi thanks again..

I missed out with F8 while boots to Mac OSx ill.. try

 

You can add me to the success counter again.. I Installed 10.4.7Jas DVD using your guide successfully

one problem I could not install SSE3 patch I had to install only sse2 but my processor supports SSE3 see the imagefile://localhost/d:/My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/cpud%20image.JPG

CPU Z clearly shows SSE2 SSE3 & MMX & EM64 T (p4 630 3.0GHz Prescott LGA 775 with 915 GAV mobo)

why is this problem , please help

unable to install iphoto, imoovie, iweb , adobe creative suite is just fine, Final cut many things dont work.

 

MS office 2004 works, Open office for mac works fine, installation Recognizes all FAt 32, NTFS (read only), windows drives, Parallels desktop works fine..

Quark express nice, Toast Titanium & tech tool deluxe work out of the box... Blue tooth & salling clicker for symbian 60 work nice...

Are these application incompatiblities known?? please reply

Thanks

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hi thanks again..

Forgot to reply..

The darwin bootloader works nice but DEFAULT is MAC OSX not XP

Ill try with F8 & Chain0 method as u suggested

thanks again

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-Nix
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thanks for your nice guide

 

but i got a problem during my installation ..

 

im using hotiso 10.4.6 OSX image .. it just cant "find" my harddisk when i want to use the disk utility.

 

My computer Spec.:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+

ASUS M2N-E Motherboard

Maxtor 250GB S-ATA

Geforce 7300GT 256MB

DVDRW Recorder

1GB RAM

19" Widescreen Monitor

 

My Harddisk Partitions:

example021.JPG

 

is there any problem about my harddisk ?

thanks

Whitster
Whitster
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I've expereinced a problem. Dual boot had been working fine for months. Yet now, with no changes to my system when I turn the PC on I cant even get to Acronis dual boot screen.

 

Instead I get the message "Starting Acronis Loader...No commands for booting operating system. Press <Enter> to reboot..."

 

If you press enter it just gives that message again.

 

Any idea how if there's a way to fix this? If I need to do a complete re-install of windows then fine, but ideally i'd like to be able to restore it.

lagrossebetegoa
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for info OSX fan,

 

my install worked fine on:

Mobo ASUS P4533B, it is stated as workin in wiki too..........

P4@2.4 (SSE2 only),

GeforceFX5500 (use macvidia driver 1.0.8)

using Mac OSX 10.40.6 Tiger x86.iso

 

 

if i can stress two details,

1) it seemed to me that it's a must to have your partition (FAT32) where you'll install mac osx just after the one with windows (i tried with the partition after my data disk and it didn't work)

 

2) It works fine if you use a "logical" partition and convert it as "Primary" after install as stated in the tutorial ( its a bit longer, about 20mnts to convert to primary

(I tried with "primary" partition at start and it didn't work))

cbmkgd
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@Whitster:

This can happen sometimes with the Acronis OS Selector (aoss).

What I did when this happened was to use the Acronis Bootable CD that you can create from Disk Director.

When you boot on that disk, there's a feature to restore (repair) aoss.

 

Since the time I installed aoss in a non-system partition (and fat32), i've had no such problems (crossing fingers :whistle: ).

 

If you didn't make the bootable cd, well, might be time to use the windows boot cd and fix the mbr to get back into windows; there you could then create the acronis boot cd.

Or maybe switch to chain0 method, or darwin bootloader. Did you have any problem with these loaders?

 

@lagrossebetegoa:

When creating a primary partition for osx, it's good to set it right away to type AF; leaving it fat32 doesn't always permit osx to see it (i've experienced that; primary type af never failed me).

Whitster
Whitster
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@Whitster:

This can happen sometimes with the Acronis OS Selector (aoss).

What I did when this happened was to use the Acronis Bootable CD that you can create from Disk Director.

When you boot on that disk, there's a feature to restore (repair) aoss.

 

Since the time I installed aoss in a non-system partition (and fat32), i've had no such problems (crossing fingers :whistle: ).

 

If you didn't make the bootable cd, well, might be time to use the windows boot cd and fix the mbr to get back into windows; there you could then create the acronis boot cd.

Or maybe switch to chain0 method, or darwin bootloader. Did you have any problem with these loaders?

 

Unfortunatley I didnt make the Acronis Bootable CD. Stupid me, didnt know I could though.

 

Not sure if I have a windows boot CD. All I have is a CD (or DVD) with a complete windows installation on it. Is that what I can use to fix the mbr (Whats the mbr and how would I fix it?)

cbmkgd
cbmkgd
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If you don't have an original WindowsXP install cd -- eg when you buy a pc with an oem windows install with only a recovery image cd -- then you could get a windows install cd at... well, at the same places where you got the osx dvd. wink-wink.

 

Then boot from it and go to the recovery console.

When in the recovery console, you type fixmbr and hit enter key; and then you must type fixboot, and hit enter key.

 

That will allow you to get back into winxp (i assume that's what you have) and erase any multiboot you already had; acronis might get these back if you re-enable it.

 

Here's more info about the recovery console: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058/

 

As for creating the acronis boot cd, it's rare people do it, or know about it. One often learns the hard way.

The manual (available at acronis web site if you don't have it) for disk director also contains interesting details; at least to be read once.

 

If you decide not to use aoss again, remove it from windows, or from acronis bootable cd. It's not enough just to delete the Bootwiz folders.

drkrack
drkrack
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Hi

I tried your Suggestion of pressing f8 while booting to OSX from chain0 method it did not work...

it again comes back to OS choices menu without booting into OS X...

This is when I keep XP Partition active & boot any further suggestions

 

Meanwhile SSE2 vs SSE3 problem just go through this attatched doc as what Mac has to say about my computer hardware

 

thanks again

:whistle::D:D

 

Hi

I tried your Suggestion of pressing f8 while booting to OSX from chain0 method it did not work...

it again comes back to OS choices menu without booting into OS X...

This is when I keep XP Partition active & boot any further suggestions

 

Meanwhile SSE2 vs SSE3 problem just go through this attatched doc as what Mac has to say about my computer hardware

 

thanks again

:censored2: :blink::blink:

 

Hi

I tried your Suggestion of pressing f8 while booting to OSX from chain0 method it did not work...

it again comes back to OS choices menu without booting into OS X...

This is when I keep XP Partition active & boot any further suggestions

 

Meanwhile SSE2 vs SSE3 problem just go through this attatched doc as what Mac has to say about my computer hardware

 

thanks again

:censored2: :blink::blink:

cbmkgd
cbmkgd
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@W:

Yes, that would work also.

In disk director there is an option somewhere in the menus to create the acronis bootable cd (it might be named otherwise, eg acronis bootable media, or something like that). Then you insert cdr or cdrw and burn the thing.

 

Check in your bios to boot on cd of course.

 

@drK:

What happens when you press F8, exactly after? Do you see the darwin boot menu? Or does it just go back rapidly to ntldr boot menu?

drkrack
drkrack
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Hi

I tried your Suggestion of pressing f8 while booting to OSX from chain0 method it did not work...

it again comes back to OS choices menu without booting into OS X...

This is when I keep XP Partition active & boot any further suggestions

 

Meanwhile SSE2 vs SSE3 problem just go through this attatched doc as what Mac has to say about my computer hardware

 

thanks again

:whistle::D:blink:

 

Hi

I tried your Suggestion of pressing f8 while booting to OSX from chain0 method it did not work...

it again comes back to OS choices menu without booting into OS X...

This is when I keep XP Partition active & boot any further suggestions

 

Meanwhile SSE2 vs SSE3 problem just go through this attatched doc as what Mac has to say about my computer hardware

 

thanks again

:censored2: :blink::blink:

 

Hi

I tried your Suggestion of pressing f8 while booting to OSX from chain0 method it did not work...

it again comes back to OS choices menu without booting into OS X...

This is when I keep XP Partition active & boot any further suggestions

 

Meanwhile SSE2 vs SSE3 problem just go through this attatched doc as what Mac has to say about my computer hardware

 

thanks again

:censored2: :blink::blink:

 

Hi

I tried your Suggestion of pressing f8 while booting to OSX from chain0 method it did not work...

it again comes back to OS choices menu without booting into OS X...

This is when I keep XP Partition active & boot any further suggestions

 

Meanwhile SSE2 vs SSE3 problem just go through this attatched doc as what Mac has to say about my computer hardware

 

thanks again

:D:blink::blink:

xr7kid
xr7kid
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hey guys! i just installed the os off the 10.4.6 jas .iso and everything seemed to work fine, but when the system reboots i get a "error loading operating system" message, i of course have acronis disk suite but the loader doesnt' come up, i got that message instead. please help! i'm so excited!

 

oops, i forgot to install the os selector part of acronis disk suite, which is probably why i'm screwed. how do i get back into windows!? argh!

OSX-fan
OSX-fan
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for info OSX fan,

 

my install worked fine on:

Mobo ASUS P4533B, it is stated as workin in wiki too..........

P4@2.4 (SSE2 only),

GeforceFX5500 (use macvidia driver 1.0.8)

using Mac OSX 10.40.6 Tiger x86.iso

if i can stress two details,

1) it seemed to me that it's a must to have your partition (FAT32) where you'll install mac osx just after the one with windows (i tried with the partition after my data disk and it didn't work)

 

2) It works fine if you use a "logical" partition and convert it as "Primary" after install as stated in the tutorial ( its a bit longer, about 20mnts to convert to primary

(I tried with "primary" partition at start and it didn't work))

 

Ok thanks for the info but what version of the patched OSX are you using ? With the Myz release no go, I am downloading the I think jas one hopefully this will work then ? 3 days later I should have it at the speed of only 9 - 20k !

shangri-la
shangri-la
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I got my Mac Osx86 installation to work.

 

My Specs.

 

ECS Nforce3-Av1.0A

Socket754 Sempron3100+ OC

1gig DDR

80gig Western Digital HD (<- windows installation)

200gig Maxtor S-ATA HD (<- osx installation on a seperate partition)

ATI x850 pro agp unlocked

 

Used the MacOSX_10.4.6DVDPATCHED_Myz.iso

 

Installed Acronis's OS Selector, but would never boot up to the OS Selector screen. (that's a whole other story...). Deactivated that and used the Darwin and Windows boot loader instead. Works great. Now i just gotta figure out the video resolution and sound.

doofoo
doofoo
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Problems here. Box is:

 

ASUS P5W-DH Deluxe

Pentium 940D

7600GT Video Card

 

SATA 250GB Drive + DVDR.

 

Using the JAS 10.4.6 DVDR with Intel mods installed, install goes completely fine. But after it's done installing I get the following error:

 

"You need to restart your computer. Hold down the Power button for several seconds or press the Restart button"

 

Arconis and all that was fine, it showed Unknown after the install, etc. Windows still works fine, just no OSX. :blink: Any idea's here?

 

Thanks!

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