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if there isn't any illegal coding involved for instance those patched versi0ons of mac os x are illegal because the source code for the os was modified in some way and since this code isn't opensource then modifying it is illegal and considered hacking, but if you use the boot132 method (and other methods that involve special bootloaders) then your gonna be alright you can throw caution to the wind when you do this technique, because your installing the os on the system without modifying the code to get it to work,this mean that its legal since you didn't have to hack anything to get it working but apple does discourage people that want to build a hackintosh from doing this , they haven't thought about a way to put us hackintosh fans in the slammer yet and i think that won't be anytime soon, but they also say that it should only be installed on apple "labled" hardware, what people have done to keep apple out of their hair when this comes is to go to an apple store and buy apple stickers and stick them to the appropriate places on the tower and monitor (the kinds of sticker they expect you to put on the window of your car or something)

the bootloaders that have made this project legal are (the ones i can name)
boot132 (popular you have to go out and find one that works with your hardware the good people on thios forum can help out alot)

empire efi (haven't had any luck with this one)

##### (haven't had luck with this one either but youll probiably have a different experience than me)

and chameleon (this is the bootloader that makes booting mac os x on the pc without a boot cd possible, sorta like how grub works to make a linux distro boot

and from what i have been read on the net lately is that EULA like law vary depending on country so the laws could be differnt i guess in some countries when you do something like this (no pirating involved) then youll be alright unless steve jobs comes to your house and throws a fit and sues

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DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed below are mine & do not necessarily reflect the views of insanelymac or its owners. Secondly, I am not a lawyer, and the following is merely the legal position to the best of my knowledge, errors & omissions excepted etc etc.

If you have *not* legally purchased a copy of OS X:

Any installation is illegal, as you do not have any kind of license to the software. This includes *any* distro-based installation as these are pirated by definition, as well as *any* installation of 10.4.* Tiger, as this was never sold separately in an intel-capable form.

If you *have* legally purchased a copy of OS X:

It depends on the laws where you live, as regards software licensing, EULAs and sales/post-sales contracts.

If you live in a country that regards the EULA as legally binding (e.g. the USA), you are subject to the clause that says the software may only be installed on a single apple-labelled computer. Some people have speculated that placing an Apple sticker on your computer fulfils this obligation, although this has not been tested in court, I doubt it would hold up.

If you live in a country that does not consider the EULA or post-sales contracts legally binding, like certain european countries, and/or where laws protecting interoperability and reverse-engineering exist, It is most likely legal.

Hope this helps.

I try to understand these: Since even in apple itself there were a lot of script or program that is from the open source in other word it is GPL (general public license); Now, when those distro come it used this GPL and remove as much as the illegal use to make that distro legal i is true? :unsure:

A lot of thing has been done like jail-braking use the GPL to change that :(

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I've read on another forum: stick an apple logo on your hackintosh :(


Have you guys ever wonder why apple sends apple logo stickers with the retail disk..lol I think they answered it for us

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Ofcourse it's not legal. But you won't get arrested or fined for it. See, Apple won't take you to court for installing Hackintosh on your computer, but they might if you install it commercially for money on like 10+ computers or create a distro of it and upload it to the Internet. They don't like people who make money off their work for free, and they especially don't like the people who upload it to the Internet.

If you're just a "consumer" of Hackintosh, you've got nothing to worry about. Heck, I'd say Apple should be thanking us for this, we have made COUNTLESS of hardware drivers compatible with OSX.

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i believe it's illegal. by the way how come the mac os costs $29 only while windows 7 costs from $120 to 200?


The prices are that way because Mac OS X is always classified as an update, whereas Windows is a new product (wether you're upgrading or not).

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It is NOT ILLEGAL. If it was, Apple would have had Psystar hauled to court on criminal charges. Instead, Apple just sued them out of existence. Do you think Jobs would have balked at the opportunity to get anyone possible at Psystar in prison? Hell no!

EULA violation in the US is a civil offense. Illegal denotes a criminal offense, which is absolutely not the case. It means you can get sued. You will not go to jail.

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i believe it's illegal. by the way how come the mac os costs $29 only while windows 7 costs from $120 to 200?



The low cost is part of the reason it's technically illegal. Part of the cost of a Mac is the OS X license, the OS X DVDs available at retail stores is an upgrade license for the existing OS. Since there's no way to buy the full version of OS X, there's no legit way to use it without a Mac.

Even if it weren't against the EULA, there would still be no way around the licensing issue.

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Since there's no way to buy the full version of OS X


"Mac Box Set" is considered as a full version

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Have you guys ever wonder why apple sends apple logo stickers with the retail disk..lol I think they answered it for us



I'm safe then, I put one of those stickers (that came with Snow Leopard) on my Hackintosh tower :gun:

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I'm safe then, I put one of those stickers (that came with Snow Leopard) on my Hackintosh tower :)



hey guys, is that really a bad idea to put Mac osx in PC workstations for my own studio?

Of course I will be buying full retail package of snow leopard for this.

I'm going to buy a few Apple software as well (iworks, aperture, FCP). But am I going to be sue for using PC hardware for all of this?

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I'm going to buy a few Apple software as well (iworks, aperture, FCP). But am I going to be sue for using PC hardware for all of this?


In case you missed it, read Hagar's reply (post #2). It is clear enough.
Anyway, I have never heard of Apple suing a single user for installing OS X on a PC. Psystar was sued because they were making a profit from somebody else work (Apple and our community).

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all 3 computers were returned to us in the same condition with Hackintosh installed.


I don't believe in the UK the Police has time to waste with such minor offences (I lived there).

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I am sure it is technically illegal in most cases. I agree that Apple will probably not go after individuals unless they build and sell the PCs.

Publicly I am sure Apple would never admit that they don't mind people building Hackintoshes. But I wonder if they have ever cross checked OS X installations on non-Apple hardware against a real Mac looking for the same name and address, which would indicate that someone who had tried a Hackintosh eventually bought a real Mac.

I for one are one of those people. Although I started out running a Hackintosh, I eventually sold it and bought a 2009 iMac and 13" Macbook Pro once I was hooked on OS X. I did build a "Mac Pro" Hackintosh, but that was cause I really could not justify the price of a Mac Pro. I would not hesitate in the future to buy an iMac or Macbook either.

I also have a friend that I set up a Hackintosh for last year, and when their daughter's old gateway laptop died about a month ago, they bought a 13" Macbook Pro for her. They also said that when it's time for a new computer, they will buy a Mac.

I really don't see as it hurts Apple all that much, and when most people give the OS a try on a Hackintosh, then they see the value of buying a Mac and are more willing to spend more money on an Apple computer.

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If You Can Get Your Hands On This Then It's Technically Legal.
The EFi-X Bootloader

http://art-studios.net/goods/86

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If You Can Get Your Hands On This Then It's Technically Legal.
The EFi-X Bootloader

http://art-studios.net/goods/86


LOL, the same software we use but in a custom flash drive,
somehow changes things ?

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It is NOT ILLEGAL. If it was, Apple would have had Psystar hauled to court on criminal charges. Instead, Apple just sued them out of existence. Do you think Jobs would have balked at the opportunity to get anyone possible at Psystar in prison? Hell no!

EULA violation in the US is a civil offense. Illegal denotes a criminal offense, which is absolutely not the case. It means you can get sued. You will not go to jail.

I double that. This post alone sums it all up.

I even assume that it applies not only to some countries but everywhere in the world. Installing an OS you have legitimately purchased and on your own hardware is never a criminal offense. A hackintosh owner can't be raided by the police or other public instances just for EULA violations. It's of no public interest as no criminal law is violated.

Then again, it's very unlikely Apple would ever even try to sue private individuals with hackintoshes for a few hundred dollars. For a single user EULA violation, they could only sue for the value of one Mac with comparable specs. On top of that they would need clear evidence. Then they also know how quickly a PC hard drive is formatted or to get rid of. It's too hard to prove as that it would even stand in front of a civil court. Too much hassle for peanuts.

No worries at all if you keep it private and non-commercial.

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absolutely illegal...
But who cares ????

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I really don't see as it hurts Apple all that much, and when most people give the OS a try on a Hackintosh, then they see the value of buying a Mac and are more willing to spend more money on an Apple computer.

I have to agree. I don't think it's a coincidence that 2007 was a bumper year for Apple and it was also the year after hackintoshes became relatively easy to set up (when they moved to Intel processors and became PC's in disguise).

People who will spend the time to get their hackintosh's running and go through the trouble of setting them up and maintaining them are relatively few. And these same people are typically technological gurus within their communities (how many of your relatives have made you their first call tech support specialist? ;) ). Thus this marginal class become Apple specialists and evangelists with very little real cost to Apple. Why would Apple interfere with this process?

It's likely that Apple records machine serials and other identifying information whenever Software Update is used, so I'm pretty sure they keep an eye on these statistics (what: you didn't know that these corporations collect far more information than they should?). For now we are really a very small niche in the market. If they really wanted to pull this plug there's no doubt in my mind that they could.

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Yes they could for ex. make it impossible to load/run the GUI on non Apple HW or/and stop selling full install DVDs.
Apart the GUI it's all open source?
So therefore, I don't think they could win any lawsuits over a Hackintosh user. Not in the US and even less elsewhere.

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i believe it's illegal. by the way how come the mac os costs $29 only while windows 7 costs from $120 to 200?


Its because Apple don't make money on their OS, because you can only use it on Macs, and they come pre installed.

Apple make all their money by selling Macs and hardware more specifically!

Hence why OS is so Cheap!





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