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Update: The site has sold. The new owners are fellow OS X fans and have a great vision for the site in the next few years. You'll get the chance to meet them over the next few days. Stay tuned!

 

First, the great news. I found out last week that I’ve been accepted into a one-year Masters program at the University of Chicago. I’ll be seeking my degree in Political Theory at the school where so many great minds have gone before me. I’m honored to follow their footsteps.

 

Now, the rest of the story. InsanelyMac, along with the OSx86 Project wiki and OnMac.net, is for sale.

 

Over the course of many sleepless nights, I’ve come to the realize that the schedule required by such a program won’t allow me to devote the time required to see InsanelyMac grow into the future. It’s been a struggle to do so over the past year, and all indications would point to a school load that’s 3-4x what I’m currently carrying at the end of my Senior year. A community such as this needs a strong leader who will do whatever is necessary to fight for the continued strength of that community. I have served in that capacity as I was able, but fate now takes me on a much different path.

 

I thought I’d try to answer a few of the questions that I’ve received over the past few days in discussing the matter with the staff:

 

What will you be selling?

Simply the things for which I have paid from my own pocket – the server, the domains, the site design and databases, etc.

 

Who will you sell it to?

This is an important point – I will only sell to a buyer who is willing to “carry the torch” and continue to serve InsanelyMac in a manner that we would want. I will not sell to anyone – regardless of money – who does not have the best interests of the community in mind. You can count on that.

 

Will you leave?

No, not at all. I’ll be around for as long as InsanelyMac is here (forever?), although my schedule for the foreseeable future won’t allow the amount of involvement I’d like. I’ll also be here to help with the transition to new ownership.

 

Will the staff leave?

The staff has agreed to stay on through the transition as well. As always, they’re free to leave whenever they’d like. Real life often comes calling when we least expect (or want) it.

 

Why sell?

Ideally I’d just be able to hand the forum over one of the other Administrators of the site, but cmoski, the other remaining Admin, wants to spend his time with IRC-related pursuits. I could give it over to a group who wanted to manage it, but 2 years of running this place have taught me that rule by committee rarely works well.

 

Eventually I came to the conclusion that selling the site would be the best idea. It would give a new owner a stake in its success… and it ensures that he is committed to seeing it forward (or else he wouldn’t spend the money to buy it). It’s a little bit of insurance that my successor will be accountable to both himself and the community, which is exactly how a forum like this should run.

 

Where's the auction?

The SitePoint auction can be found here. Obviously, I'll give preference in bidding to InsanelyMac community members, even if they are not the highest bid.

 

Although I'll still be around in the months to come, let me say this: it's been one wild ride with all of you, and I thank you for all the times we've shared so far. I consider you my friends... and that's one that won't change, regardless of who owns the rights to the site.


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cringemaster

Posted

"Approximate monthly revenue: $1,500-$2,000"

 

Wow, i always thought around 800-1000 was what adsense would bring in on this site (donations probably account for about 15%, am I right?).

 

otherwise, Good luck with your masters program Swad.

Metrogirl

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Congratulations to Swad for his achievement - if he puts as much effort into his studies as he's put into this site, we'll be calling him Mr President in a few years' time. Hmm, that would be interesting, do you fancy repealing the DMCA, Swad? :hysterical:

 

The sale is an exciting and logical step for a site that has grown exponentially in the time we've been supporting our users. It is an opportunity for more growth, new ideas and fresh directions. Never fear, the staff won't let any of the good things slip away! (Incoming metaphor alert:) We nursed Swad's baby through its infancy to the verge of adulthood and we have far too much time and effort invested in our community to let anyone mess it up. Here's to the future!

 

-Sarah

muhammadbeig

Posted

Good luck with your Masters program at University of Chicago. Keep posting!

innit01

Posted

Definatly an end to an era....

I've been here for a while, to be honest not added a h*ll of a lot, (a few alias's along the way, due to lost passwords). But still here...., and must say that you, Swad made this whole thing happen. It's been one h*ll of a great time.

 

All the best for the future dude.

MacAttack

Posted

Thanks for everyting and good luck!

Dragon

Posted

When I logged in and saw "InsanelyMac for sale" my heart skipped a beat. I hope this site goes into good hands and I'd like to wish Swad good luck in the future.

 

Dragon

Mebster

Posted

I have to say I'm nervous. Swad has been more than just a founder, he's been the soul and conscience that's steered us through many things. This site's openness and kindness comes mainly from the founder and his team. Replacing Swad with someone who will care about the site and more importantly about it's members is going to be tough.

 

I honestly do wish selling wasn't necessary. I would rather you came back in a year and for the time just hand responsibilities over to trusted members. And if it had to be sold then I really would rather it be sold to one of the Moderators. It's clear they all have great intentions regarding the site (otherwise they would not be a mod). Most of us can truly rely on them to take it forward.

 

But if you do sell than I want to say it was great being led by you :hysterical:

 

- AcePlayer

 

EDIT: Your custom member title area will say 'Founder. Formerly known as "Mash." Former owner.'

Swad

Posted

I honestly do wish selling wasn't necessary. I would rather you came back in a year and for the time just hand responsibilities over to trusted members. And if it had to be sold then I really would rather it be sold to one of the Moderators. It's clear they all have great intentions regarding the site (otherwise they would not be a mod). Most of us can truly rely on them to take it forward.

 

Thanks for your comments, AcePlayer - these are all valid concerns, and I wish the sale wasn't necessary as well. As I mentioned in the first post, the ideal situation would be for me to just give it over to a small group of 3 or 4 to administer. History, and personal experience, has taught me that triumvirates like that don't last very long.

 

I can promise you, though, that I'll give all diligence to finding someone who is like me in the important ways and better than me in the more important ways. :hysterical: Any changes that my successor will bring will only be improvements, not mistakes. I'll work my hardest to ensure that's the case.

mac-mini

Posted

When I logged in and saw "InsanelyMac for sale" my heart skipped a beat. I hope this site goes into good hands and I'd like to wish Swad good luck in the future.

 

Dragon

 

 

thats what happend to me too

myzar

Posted

Congratulations to Swad for his achievement - if he puts as much effort into his studies as he's put into this site, we'll be calling him Mr President in a few years' time. Hmm, that would be interesting, do you fancy repealing the DMCA, Swad? :hysterical:

 

The sale is an exciting and logical step for a site that has grown exponentially in the time we've been supporting our users. It is an opportunity for more growth, new ideas and fresh directions. Never fear, the staff won't let any of the good things slip away! (Incoming metaphor alert:) We nursed Swad's baby through its infancy to the verge of adulthood and we have far too much time and effort invested in our community to let anyone mess it up. Here's to the future!

 

-Sarah

 

this isn't exciting at all , anyway we'll see , if it's just a matter of making money it will be quickly boycotted by anyone that matters and it will quickly die and a new board will show up. Don't forget that isn't the moderator but people that post interesting stuff that really matters.

elviejo

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Thanks for your comments, AcePlayer - these are all valid concerns, and I wish the sale wasn't necessary as well. As I mentioned in the first post, the ideal situation would be for me to just give it over to a small group of 3 or 4 to administer. History, and personal experience, has taught me that triumvirates like that don't last very long.

 

I can promise you, though, that I'll give all diligence to finding someone who is like me in the important ways and better than me in the more important ways. :) Any changes that my successor will bring will only be improvements, not mistakes. I'll work my hardest to ensure that's the case.

 

Good luck to you , Swad, has been an honor to follow your lead; knowing your wisdom, I'm sure we are here for last. Good luck again and break a leg :hysterical:

Alessandro17

Posted

I'd bid, but in order to find that kind of money I'd need to sell either my house or my flat.

Besides I am quite aware that I am not the ideal candidate: I know nothing about maintaining a website and English is not my mother tongue. For sure as an Administrator I'd try to be more fair than I have been as a user :hysterical:

G5rocks

Posted

You want $40.000 for mostly user created content? In europe we would shot you for such an idea. Sorry to say that but you don't deserve that money.

glassJAw

Posted

Why not just keep it and have someone else help maintain? You will get sellers remorse.

Mebster

Posted

if it's just a matter of making money it will be quickly boycotted by anyone that matters and it will quickly die and a new board will show up. Don't forget that isn't the moderator but people that post interesting stuff that really matters.

We'll I hope not but if it does go down hill, hope to see you all in the new place :hysterical:

bwhsh8r

Posted

We'll I hope not but if it does go down hill, hope to see you all in the new place :thumbsup_anim:

same, if its true then im out..... gone. :)

Swad

Posted

You want $40.000 for mostly user created content? In europe we would shot you for such an idea. Sorry to say that but you don't deserve that money.

 

First, all the times I've been to Europe, I've never been under the impression that they shoot those who sell what they've purchased and grown. You'd have a lot of dead farmers if that were the case...

 

I'll be the first to admit that almost all of the content here is user generated (sans the News, of course). But I'm not making money on the backs of anyone who has posted here or the community writ large. I don't like to talk about the site in business terms, but I will for this post to help you see my point. This site was started to let people have a place to talk. That's it. There's always been a tacit agreement amongst members that if they liked it better somewhere else, or thought they could do better at running a forum, they were able to go elsewhere. It's a totally voluntary process.

 

As a result of the hours I've spent making sure the lights stayed on, that flamewars don't lead people to tear each other apart, and that we actually have a central place to discuss the things that are important to us - for all those hours, I think I'm entitled to receive money for the things I payed for initially. It's not greed - it's the way the world works. If you buy something, put blood, sweat, and tears into it (ok, only the middle one here), you're entitled to reap whatever rewards someone else is willing to give you for it.

 

Why not just keep it and have someone else help maintain? You will get sellers remorse.

Good question. I'll be honest - that's mostly what I've done over the past year. You'll notice that as school started last fall, my posts and availability dropped precipitously. That time has shown me that a community like this works best when there's one person in control - one person that's accountable and responsible for the rest. Help is obviously important (I couldn't have done it without everyone else!), but someone has to be able to say, as Harry Truman did, "The Buck Stops Here." I've seen the consequences of a relaxed style of management here, and it just doesn't work.

 

As for remorse... I'll still be around, remember? :)

joe75

Posted

Don't sweat it, do whatcha gotta do and we'll keep on as we always have. You don't owe anybody anything, we owe you :)

Mebster

Posted

You don't owe anybody anything, we owe you :)

I'm sorry to dampen the mood but it's clear from the auctions site that Swad gets a nice cut every month from ads.

So he does owe us (for the material and money we generate) and we owe him (for the place to do it all and his time).

 

It's a two way thing, just remember that. Let's not all start kneeling at once.

kevin_4e

Posted

You want $40.000 for mostly user created content? In europe we would shot you for such an idea. Sorry to say that but you don't deserve that money.

Honestly, who else should be held accountable for what it has grown into?

 

At AcePlayer: C'mon, it's a community for a reason. Do you expect anybody to start handing out money to community members? I don't see any other way he could pay back what he "owes."

joe75

Posted

You guys are kill'n me :)

Sutthipong

Posted

I have this crazy idea. To have this site going on in the best interest of the community. Why don't we all put up some bucks in donation and buy the right to the sites. Then we elected a governing body to do an administration work. There will be openly voted the people in the community and there will be a fixed terms for the admin team.

 

There will be an annual fund raising program to help keep fuel this community.

 

That's my 2 cents.

AllanVS

Posted

I may not own a mac, but, I've been lurking around here a lot ... just reading posts ... the new owner has a big ... Mac to fill!

 

I wish I could offer up a bid, but it's not possible.

 

Good luck with your Masters.

Swad

Posted

I'm sorry to dampen the mood but it's clear from the auctions site that Swad gets a nice cut every month from ads. So he does owe us (for the material and money we generate) and we owe him (for the place to do it all and his time).

It's a two way thing.

 

1. My cut isn't the whole Adsense amount. By the time you add server costs, taxes, payment for new site work, purchasing of other sites (twinmac.com and onmac.net), occasional staff bonuses, site promotions (like the occasional free iPod), etc... there's still some left, but it's revenue - costs. The bulk of the extra goes to things that indirectly benefit the site, like the purchase of a MacBook and iMac that allow me to actually try things out before I post about them. There's not enough money earned for that to be the main motivation for running this website. The reason I'm here - that I started it and have continued to love hanging out here - is because of the people and discussion, not the money.

 

2. You're exactly right. A forum like this is a symbiotic relationship - I keep the forum running for all of us to share the information, you all share enough information so that 1) this place doesn't get boring and 2) so that it makes generates enough ad revenue to cover costs and perhaps a little bit extra. When you think about it, that's how every community - city or forum - works in general.

my1stmacisaHACK

Posted

if somebody buy the site i hope you'll buy it back after your masters :thumbsup_anim: (in a year right?)

 

 

thanks for everything and good luck....

 

 

ikki swad.... gambatte!!

 

keep rocking :)



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