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Apple Seeds 10.4.3 Intel to Developers


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We've received confirmed reports today that Apple has recently seeded OS X 10.4.3 for Intel to ADC members. Unlike the recent update to 10.4.2, this is a full system upgrade, and is approximately 3gb. The build, 8f1099, contains numerous changes and fixes along with those already found in 10.4.3 for PowerPC-based machines. Some of the more interesting updates found in the changelog include the newly completed Carbon and Cocoa frameworks and a universal binary of Flash 8. Java support has also been upgraded, and new debugging functions are now found in Rosetta. It would also appear that the system has recieved some optimizations, with more routines now accelerated by SSE, and improved OpenGL support. Universal printer drivers have also been added. A new build of Xcode is included, which seems to confirm reports that 10.4.3 once again breaks binary compatability with previous versions. Overall this update seems to focus on the polish, as opposed to the core of the operating system, which seems to indicate that progress on the final version of OS X for Intel is proceeding well. As always, The OSx86 Project would like to suggest that all ADC members update to the newest build.


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unpacking the kext.cache with -a i386 i've noticed that there are nvidia kexts , i've tried using them in 10.4.1 but i get a nice panic hehe .

Bah, these are the people NOT supposed to be downloading it. It wasn't intended for you to try and use the kexts. It was meant for people to get a headstart on hacking the kernel and Rosetta :)

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Bah, these are the people NOT supposed to be downloading it. It wasn't intended for you to try and use the kexts. It was meant for people to get a headstart on hacking the kernel and Rosetta :)

 

hehe but unpacking the kext cache and looking at what is included in it is hacking too ;P seriously the one who should get it is maxxuss let's hope he sees this thread and that he can work on it

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hehe but unpacking the kext cache and looking at what is included in it is hacking too ;P seriously the one who should get it is maxxuss let's hope he sees this thread and that he can work on it

It's not hacking it at all to unpack the kext cache. It was meant for hackers/crackers only and it's been downloaded 104+ times now by people who I specifically told NOT TO BOTHER WITH IT. o.o I don't get why people don't listen as it's not useful to anyone but crackers/hackers.

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It's not hacking it at all to unpack the kext cache. It was meant for hackers/crackers only and it's been downloaded 104+ times now by people who I specifically told NOT TO BOTHER WITH IT. o.o I don't get why people don't listen as it's not useful to anyone but crackers/hackers.

 

i don't get y do you care what people do with the files and they were usefull for me so i don't see what's your freaking problem

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Try to keep it on topic, guys.. & remember *no warez*

 

Then I have no idea why he is concerned with people downloading it. I thought in his first post he said that it was his bandwidth.

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Then I have no idea why he is concerned with people downloading it. I thought in his first post he said that it was his bandwidth.

I believe Rapidshare has a download limit for each file, so if the file is downloaded up to that limit then the link dies. I don't want a dead link for the people who actually can USE it. It doesn't help anyone here if people download it even though they don't have the first clue about what to do with it.

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I believe Rapidshare has a download limit for each file, so if the file is downloaded up to that limit then the link dies. I don't want a dead link for the people who actually can USE it. It doesn't help anyone here if people download it even though they don't have the first clue about what to do with it.

 

I took a look at the kexts in the provided files and NVDAResman is a new version, but it still lacks necessary calls on the i386 side, so tough luck everyone :)

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Is the enthusiasm to get 10.4.3 leaked already gone? It's been 3 days now since anybody has bothered to give updates, whether on these forums or win2osx.net's forums.

 

Ugh...

 

Seconded.

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Maybe, and just maybe, the damn thing hasn't been cracked yet.

 

There is a certain non-zero value to downloading it so we can update some user-land packages, but honestly, I'd prefer to wait until we can just do another install or an clean upgrade with TPM hacked. With all the support people need on this forum, releasing an unhacked version will result in countless people messing up their installs as they copy random {censored} onto their current installs.

 

/blkblt

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With all the support people need on this forum, releasing an unhacked version will result in countless people messing up their installs as they copy random {censored} onto their current installs.

Seconded. Let the experts work, and we'll wait for the goods.

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I try to copy all the stuff over but it just ends up messing up:

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/465/error5nm.png

 

EDIT: And it NEVER copies everything over properly. It always stops at the last section of whatever is being copied last (don't ask me why, doesn't matter which folder/file is being copied over. Which ever one happens to fall last it freezes up on).

 

DeathChill, did you examine your vmware.log file to see if it might indicate the actual operation that is failing? If it can be determined that the last file copied completely before the virtual machine crashes this would indicate to me that there is an operation occuring after the file copy process that is causing this behavior. If the error is happening in the flashram.c module of the vm, I would imagine that the it is trying to access a virtualized flash storage device within the virtual machine that it cannot access (TPM, perhaps?), could even be trying to access a USB flash dongle or something and having problems contending between the VM Guest OS and Host OS. If you have one of these plugged into your machine, you should disable it and try again. I did some looking around about this and found that in a particular build of vmware 5 certain guest linux distributions exhibit this result (so my TPM idea could be wrong unless this happens at a different point in these Linux distros), and trying different vmware 5 builds would get around this although the root cause of this was never clarified. Something interesting though that I noticed, on VMware's website there is a new VMware product called VMware Player (don't know if you've seen this), it is a free product that allows you to run vm's created in the workstation/server versions. You may consider trying this to see if this problem can be circumvented in this manner. However depending on the verbosity of the vmware.log file, one may be able to deduce where the vm crashes. Also, does this happen if you try to copy these files using PearPC? Anyway, just my two cents and first post. Just wanted to make some kind of contribution to this community, hopefully it's helpful. Thank you (and all the others involved) for all of your work thus far and helping me get this OS running on my commodity hardware. You all made it possible for me to have a Toshiba Lapintosh after all these long years of chasing the dreams at emaculation.com, and the fud at emulators.com and microcodesolutions.com and several long months staring aimlessly at the unchanging news at pearpc.net. If ultimately 10.4.2 or 10.4.3 arent workable, at least I can say "I was there once" as we all can and should be proud of. I havent met anyone in person that has such an OS running on intel hardware; I know I'll defintely buy an Intel based Mac when they debut (even if I can't spell the word definately right the first (or second time)). Take care.

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DeathChill, did you examine your vmware.log file to see if it might indicate the actual operation that is failing? If it can be determined that the last file copied completely before the virtual machine crashes this would indicate to me that there is an operation occuring after the file copy process that is causing this behavior. If the error is happening in the flashram.c module of the vm, I would imagine that the it is trying to access a virtualized flash storage device within the virtual machine that it cannot access (TPM, perhaps?), could even be trying to access a USB flash dongle or something and having problems contending between the VM Guest OS and Host OS.

 

{censored}. Smells like a missing dongle. :D:D

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I try to copy all the stuff over but it just ends up messing up:

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/465/error5nm.png

 

EDIT: And it NEVER copies everything over properly. It always stops at the last section of whatever is being copied last (don't ask me why, doesn't matter which folder/file is being copied over. Which ever one happens to fall last it freezes up on).

 

Are you trying to install directly/natively from the DVD/img into vmWare? I do not think that will work and again mucking around with the extensions is necessary. Some extensions might need to be removed simply because hardware supporting them is not available on generic boxes (or vmWare for that matter).

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Are you trying to install directly/natively from the DVD/img into vmWare? I do not think that will work and again mucking around with the extensions is necessary. Some extensions might need to be removed simply because hardware supporting them is not available on generic boxes (or vmWare for that matter).

No, I installed Darwin, and I installed 10.4.3 in pearPC and I copied it over onto Darwin. Maybe they've implemented something new so we can't get it to work via that method o.o

 

Also, it doesn't smell like a dongle because VMware wouldn't error and there's already the TPM chip it'd be REALLY REALLY odd to ship a dongle when the TPM chip does the same thing, but better.

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Also, it doesn't smell like a dongle because VMware wouldn't error and there's already the TPM chip it'd be REALLY REALLY odd to ship a dongle when the TPM chip does the same thing, but better.

 

Why better? You can also put the chip in a dongle, like Syncrosoft does. Who said, the TPM Chip is on the

mainboard :D The plus that Apple would get here, is to be very flexible with all kind of motherboard

manufacturer.

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I don't understand the point of trying to get this working in VMWare. Concentrated effort should be put on getting this going in the machines that are most compatible, that way you reduce the chance of VMWare specific bugs/roadblocks. VMWare is a great tool, but it is by no means equal to a physical machine.

Just my 2 cents.

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I don't understand the point of trying to get this working in VMWare. Concentrated effort should be put on getting this going in the machines that are most compatible, that way you reduce the chance of VMWare specific bugs/roadblocks. VMWare is a great tool, but it is by no means equal to a physical machine.
VMware emulates a simple average Intel x86 platform, which should be a very (/most?) compatible basic configuration for testing os X.
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I understand that, and I've used VMWare extensively in the past, what I was trying to get across is that trying to get this build running/installed on a plaform (for lack of a better work) that we know is not very well supported is somewhat a waste of effort. I was merely suggesting that effort should be concentrated on 915 boards to rule out incompatibilities that are VMWare specific.

For example, the phenix release was installable and fully working on 915 based boards by merely replacing the patched oah750.

The same cannot be said about VMWare.

Again, this is just my 2 cents...

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No, I installed Darwin, and I installed 10.4.3 in pearPC and I copied it over onto Darwin. Maybe they've implemented something new so we can't get it to work via that method o.o

 

Also, it doesn't smell like a dongle because VMware wouldn't error and there's already the TPM chip it'd be REALLY REALLY odd to ship a dongle when the TPM chip does the same thing, but better.

 

Oh, so you are trying to create a pre-installed version. Wouldn't that have an inherit problem that nothing will work, because Darwin was not compiled on the same level as 10.4.3 so there's no way they'll work together?

 

I still wonder why not release the install DVD of 10.4.3 (if it's available) and let the community have a go at it, just like it happened with 10.4.1. If you remember a few "distributions" sprung out of it and at the end we had a working release install.

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