[HOW TO] INSTALL ON GIGABYTE/ASUS/COMPATIBLE BOARDS

[JungMin]

Cheers Ninetto for the help!!! It's up and running!!! Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3, Inter Core2Duo E4200, GeForce 7300GS, 2GB Ram.

 

Everything works....Reboot, Poweroff, Sound.

 

But, one little annoyance. I installed the Kalyway 10.5.2 update but now it takes 2~3 minutes to boot up. On 10.5.1 it was fast, ~20 seconds. Now the boot screen loads (white screen with apple) for a few seconds, then the monitor shuts off and it takes well over a minute to load the desktop. I have reboot more than five times, but this is still happening.

 

Is this common?? I thought it just happened the first time. I booted into Safe Mode and then rebooted from there, but no difference....

 

Again, thanks guys for all the help. This thread is great!!!

[chuckeroo]

Cool, switched to the 8800, both on your suggestion and the great reviews.

Oh well, if I can get a really nice and fast mac at barely over $1000, that's pretty great.

In my mind, I'm saving $2000 from the Mac Pro I was planning on buying. After all this time

being a mac fan, I'm just sick of them not putting out a decent midrange mac with an upgradeable form

factor.

Can't wait for this stuff to come in this week, hopefully they get the E8400 in soon...

[newbmac]

Cool, switched to the 8800, both on your suggestion and the great reviews.

Oh well, if I can get a really nice and fast mac at barely over $1000, that's pretty great.

In my mind, I'm saving $2000 from the Mac Pro I was planning on buying. After all this time

being a mac fan, I'm just sick of them not putting out a decent midrange mac with an upgradeable form

factor.

Can't wait for this stuff to come in this week, hopefully they get the E8400 in soon...

 

 

FYI, the P180 and 182 go on sale often for like $60.

 

For that CPU price, you could do a Quad COre 2 Duo...

[chuckeroo]

FYI, the P180 and 182 go on sale often for like $60.

 

For that CPU price, you could do a Quad COre 2 Duo...

 

Oh sweet, I'll keep an eye out for the case deals.

Which quad core would you look at? For some reason I thought the "wolfdale" ones were newer

and faster, and the cheapest quadcore i could find was the q6600 at $275 @ 2.4 ghz.

The E8400 starts at 3ghz and oc's to 4, but I guess the argument is 4 cores are better than 2, right?

Please recommend a few, as I don't know that much about this stuff, but am really eager to learn...

 

Thanks all for taking the time with a beginner, I really appreciate it.

[mtotho]

ive had the q6600 for about 6 months now. Very Good processor. 4 Cores, leopard certainly takes advantage. I can only overclock mine to 3.0ghz because it is the first revision they came out with.. any one that you buy now should easily get to 3.2ghz.. maybe more.

 

also.. when you get the new board, update to the latest bios immediately. This is very simple.. simple go to asus's site.. download the latest bios for the p5w dh.. then you can put it on anything.. a flash drive, cd, dvd.. the asus bios has a really easy updater where you can browse through any hooked up device rather than getting out the old floppy drive.

[dci693]

FYI, the P180 and 182 go on sale often for like $60.

Not THAT often I would say, perhaps 3x in the last year and lasting for a few hours each time before they sell out. I watch the sales and I have more cases than I need.

[justin2007]

i've got the p182 here. quiet box, but i prefer to mouse the psu at the top than the bottom as most cables only just stretch far enough. also the fan at the bottom between the cpu and hd enclosure makes it a very tight space work in.as for overclocking, im running an e2180 at 3.2ghz on the stock cooler...not too shabby for a very cheap processor.

[dci693]

i've got the p182 here. quiet box, but i prefer to mouse the psu at the top than the bottom as most cables only just stretch far enough. also the fan at the bottom between the cpu and hd enclosure makes it a very tight space work in.as for overclocking, im running an e2180 at 3.2ghz on the stock cooler...not too shabby for a very cheap processor.

Very nice result. What board are you on? What vcore? FWIW, you can get extension cables for the PSU. As you know, with the P182, you can route the cables under the motherboard

if you need to.

[mtotho]

bumparoo

[jjoe]

Hi,

 

This thread is so great!!

I have a P35-DS3L, and just installed Mac 10.5.2 on my desktop yesterday.

This thread saves me a lot of time to error try different BIOS settings.

 

I am pretty satisfied except one problem.

If I enable AHCI, the installed hard drive becomes an yellow external hard drive symbol.

I saw there is a kext in the tutorial to fix it, but the description says it will affect the hard drive performance. What does that mean? Using the kext to fix the problem is a bad idea?

 

What bothers me is not the yellow symbol, it is it causes problems in my experience.

When I first installed Kalyway 10.5.1, AHCI is enabled. During the installation, I saw the hard drive is yellow, but I didn't associate it to external hard drive. I thought it is just a new symbol for hard drive from Apple. And the installation hangs at 13%.

Then I reboot and try to install the second time. This time, it hangs at 27%. But I wait 30 mins to reboot the machine. After I removed the DVD and reboot the machine, it went into Mac in the hard drive, and ask me information for the first boot. So the installation was finished. Somehow the installation screen just stuck there.

 

But I am not comfortable with that. So I disable AHCI, format leopard partition and reinstalled again. This time, nothing weird happened. Every step is smooth, and I boot into Mac from hard drive.

 

So I am sure that enable AHCI will cause some hard drive problems. Maybe the machine will hang at sleeping or at inactive.

I don't want to disable AHCI because I have Vista and Ubuntu in the same disk, and Vista performs pretty well with AHCI enabled.

[Jerec]

Hello Everyone

 

I've got a question regarding GUID vs MBR and dual booting.

 

I understand that doing a partition with MBR will make dual booting simple between XP and OS X. But I'm intrigued at the slight performance boost of GUID as well as the fact that it's newer and such. But I'd still prefer easy dual booting over those two.

 

So I'd like know if doing a completely separate disk with GUID will still have the same dual boot difficult as having a different partition in GUID.

[mtotho]

@jjoe, read carefully. It says the kexts get rid of orange hard drive symbols. Not only does it make them normal again, it increases the performance/permissions. You want to install the kexts. it is better. btw they should be orange.

 

@jerec.. with one disk being guid you can of course just change the boot device in bios to boot as one or the other.. it is just more difficult to use a boot loader.. although it is possible. I used MBR on my DS3L build.. i use GUID on my p5w dh build. There probably is not a huge difference.

[Jerec]

I guess I'll look into the various dual boot guides around here, but I'll probably just end up doing MBR. Thanks for the quick response, mtotho!

[kings_freak]

Hello,

 

First off, thanks for this guide! I have successfully built a system with the GA-P35-DS3L, SATA DVD, 2 SATA drives and 4gb (2x2gb) of Patriot RAM (5-5-5-12 Timings), using your suggestions. I do not have AHCI enabled and I haven't had any kernel panics yet! (Crosses fingers...)

 

I just saw that you updated the post with new info on how to correct the system profiler. I downloaded the AppleSMBIOS.kext.zip from the first page and installed it. Restarted and everything came up like it was supposed to. The only problem was, when I went into Photoshop, it crashed immediately, (along with every other Adobe product). I went back to the old kext and it fixed the problem.

 

Any idea what could be causing that?

 

Thanks again for the great guide.

[mtotho]

@kings freak, that is wierd..

 

anyone else with this problem?

 

You can still edit the about this mac.

[chevy2410]

I've heard on some systems that Adobe apps do crash. I'm not sure why. Although it never happen to me and I've been installing and running OSX86 since the early days of 10.4.5.

 

 

Chevy

[justin2007]

Very nice result. What board are you on? What vcore? FWIW, you can get extension cables for the PSU. As you know, with the P182, you can route the cables under the motherboard if you need to.

im on the same board as you, a p35-ds3l V2.0 with the F9 beta bios. vcore is set to 1.475 and temps during cpu stress testing max at 65c. im running 10x320 with memory locked at 1066. i'll post the xbench tonight.

Hello,First off, thanks for this guide! I have successfully built a system with the GA-P35-DS3L, SATA DVD, 2 SATA drives and 4gb (2x2gb) of Patriot RAM (5-5-5-12 Timings), using your suggestions. I do not have AHCI enabled and I haven't had any kernel panics yet! (Crosses fingers...)I just saw that you updated the post with new info on how to correct the system profiler. I downloaded the AppleSMBIOS.kext.zip from the first page and installed it. Restarted and everything came up like it was supposed to. The only problem was, when I went into Photoshop, it crashed immediately, (along with every other Adobe product). I went back to the old kext and it fixed the problem.Any idea what could be causing that?Thanks again for the great guide.

i've seen this problem mentioned previously with adobe products. im using the default applesmbios and all my adobe cs3 apps work fine, however restart doesn't work for me, but i can live without it as sleep and shutdown work perfectly.

[disneytoy]

that is interesting info. I have the V. 2.0 MB with an e8400 + 4 gig A-DATA ram in a P182 case. I will look for extention cables because my PSU can only get the MB power inside the case. When I tried to run it in the back they were to short.

 

I haven't yet had success on my new build installing Leopard. My first Kalyway 10.5.1 DVD errored towards the end COULD NOT VERIFY ADDITIONAL FONTS? I tried iAKROS but I installed and got the B0 error. I then reburned the Kalyway and was able to complete installation on an external 160gb USB drive. but for what ever reason, I could not get it to boot. And the install worked from a Liteon PATA DVD burner (ATA).

 

It was very exciting seeing Leopard install screen on my monitor though.

 

 

For anyone running XP and Leopard at the same time, are you able to sync Windows XP Itunes with Mac itunes?

 

This PC is mainly for HTPC. And I want to use either the AppleTV backrow or Leopard Frontrow, but leave my media accessable from itunes.

 

Peace out!

 

Max

[mtotho]

what do u mean by "sync" itunes. You mean.. both update if music is purchased.. etc. You can set the default itunes music folder to be the same folder for both.... other than that, i dont know if you can "sync" them

[disneytoy]

Hello!

 

I used the wrong term. Not sync. When running XP and Leo at the same time, can they network as 2 different computers on a LAN? Do they see each other? In itunes you can "share your library on your LAN." If you ran AppleTV backrow hack on Leo, It requires you to type a code to access your itunes library. "stream or sync. That is ultimately what I want to do. Have Frontrow or AppleTV Take 2 running at the same time as XP.

[justin2007]

Results 156.42

System Info

Xbench Version 1.3

System Version 10.5.2 (9C31)

Physical RAM 2048 MB

Model P35-DS3L

Drive Type MAXTOR STM3160215AS MAXTOR STM3160215AS

CPU Test 200.86

GCD Loop 378.40 19.95 Mops/sec

Floating Point Basic 182.01 4.32 Gflop/sec

vecLib FFT 147.12 4.85 Gflop/sec

Floating Point Library 200.81 34.97 Mops/sec

Thread Test 289.65

Computation 275.46 5.58 Mops/sec, 4 threads

Lock Contention 305.38 13.14 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads

Memory Test 214.94

System 211.20

Allocate 384.23 1.41 Malloc/sec

Fill 209.26 10174.56 MB/sec

Copy 146.57 3027.28 MB/sec

Stream 218.82

Copy 202.31 4178.63 MB/sec

Scale 204.39 4222.68 MB/sec

Add 236.81 5044.64 MB/sec

Triad 236.86 5066.99 MB/sec

Quartz Graphics Test 293.89

Line 228.67 15.22 Klines/sec [50% alpha]

Rectangle 317.47 94.78 Krects/sec [50% alpha]

Circle 259.93 21.19 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]

Bezier 236.87 5.97 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]

Text 703.68 44.02 Kchars/sec

OpenGL Graphics Test 217.70

Spinning Squares 217.70 276.16 frames/sec

User Interface Test 345.58

Elements 345.58 1.59 Krefresh/sec

Disk Test 48.13

Sequential 105.27

Uncached Write 73.70 45.25 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Write 109.66 62.04 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Uncached Read 128.71 37.67 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Read 132.62 66.66 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Random 31.19

Uncached Write 10.50 1.11 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Write 65.09 20.84 MB/sec [256K blocks]

Uncached Read 94.30 0.67 MB/sec [4K blocks]

Uncached Read 142.64 26.47 MB/sec [256K blocks]

[spiderman1369]

@Anyone doing Bench Testing for Installs on the Gigabyte and Asus boards:

 

Has anyone compared bench specs of using Ram of different speeds using the installs of this topic?

 

i.e. Is there much of a difference in performance using the 800 vs. 1066 RAM or even overclocking to 1200?

 

I ask because if it makes a big difference, then that would be a good reason to go with a Gigabyte P35-DS3* board vs. a ASUS P5W DH. Since the Gigabyte boards support 1066/1200 (overclock).

 

Granted a Dual Core vs Quad Core will make a difference, but I'm just talking RAM speeds.

 

If anyone has done this I look forward to what you have to say.

 

Thanks!

[dci693]

im on the same board as you, a p35-ds3l V2.0 with the F9 beta bios. vcore is set to 1.475 and temps during cpu stress testing max at 65c. im running 10x320 with memory locked at 1066. i'll post the xbench tonight.

Very nice, and on the stock cooler also. Though the 65c is a bit higher than I'd like, it's at max load. Have you considered an aftermarket cooler? I haven't tried heaving overclocking because I wanted to make sure OSX was stable first, and it looks rock solid. I haven't had any strange crashes like I had on XP.

[jjoe]

Thanks! I replaced that kext, and now I can even choose legacy ide without problems.

 

Before replacing the kext, Mac has problems recognizing my hard drive size during installation if legacy ide is used. And it hangs at the gray apple screen with a forbidden sign in the center during boot.

 

The problem with native ide is that I'll have noticeable fps drop when I play team fortress 2 under vista, especially when there are lots of players on the screen. It happens whether or not AHCI is enabled.

 

Now I have AHCI enabled and legacy ide. Should be best for hard drive performance.

 

 

@jjoe, read carefully. It says the kexts get rid of orange hard drive symbols. Not only does it make them normal again, it increases the performance/permissions. You want to install the kexts. it is better. btw they should be orange.

[blackduke]

So, clean install.

 

I've installed the 10.5.1, then run the update of pirate bay (the update method in this tutorial messed up my system in the middle of the update installation), then installed the graphic drivers, than downloaded every update (including the gfx update). Everything works, fast, quiet.

 

Except

 

1. Shut down doesn't work

2. It boots up enormously slow (it didn't before, but maybe it's cause of the update) - the gray apple screen lasts for cca 2 minutes.

 

 

I know of the shut down fixer on the first page but now I'm scared to mess up anything again. The 10.5.2. update put me offline for 3 days, didn't do any work

 

+IMPORTANT - THe system crashes (the four language restart) upon using PATA and SATA drivers...