~pcwiz Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 OK, there were 2 problems with Mac OSx86 that made it illegal: 1) We were downloading copyrighted torrents from the net 2) EULA states that it can only be installed on "Apple labelled" equipment The torrent thing is solved with Leopard now that we can actually use Retail DVDs (that we bought) and patch them with Brazilmac. The Apple labelled problem is solved too, now thanks to a tip by nano2d! All you have to do, is take the Apple stickers that come with OS X (or buy one from eBay) and stick it on your hackintosh. There, now the EULA says that it can only be installed on Apple labelled equipment and your hackintosh is "labelled" Apple equipment so that problem is solved! Ha ha ingenious idea nano2d. pcwiz Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurael Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 There's nothing illegal about downloading software you own a license to use. After all, you don't own the software, only a license to use it, and thus how you get hold of it is irrelevant. And the clause requiring installation on Apple labelled hardware would be laughed out of court in most countries where, very sensibly, reverse engineering to allow compatibility is legal. Of course, in the USA you're breaking DMCA, although whether the DMCA itself is constitutional is another issue altogether... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-533105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 DMCA? Doesn't that affect organizations, not individuals? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-533122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmdshft Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 It affects everyone in the United States. It's just that the recording, movie, and software companies think that their {censored} copy protection will suddenly become effective if they throw the DMCA in enough people's faces. There are exceptions to every rule, we just need to find them. The one actual illegal thing we are doing with OSx86 is modifying system files to allow beige-box installations, and that's forbidden in the EULA. But with the advent of pc_efi, this can legal pretty quick... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-533138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 You can buy an Apple computer and replace all it's parts there is nothing about replacing or adding parts, right? What is the cheapest out there? Apple II, Macintosh 128 ? I added a MotherBoard with disks to my Macintosh IIsi, and I added a backup laptop to my PowerBook Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-533147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted December 9, 2007 Author Share Posted December 9, 2007 There are tons of loopholes in the EULA. Hara Taiki is right, with EFI it can soon become as legal as its gonna get. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-533343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtreanor Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 There's nothing illegal about downloading software you own a license to use. After all, you don't own the software, only a license to use it, and thus how you get hold of it is irrelevant. It is illegal if you upload to others who dont posses a licence through bittorent. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-533350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurael Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 I didn't say anything about uploading though... Who says I use BitTorrent? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-533487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headrush69 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Like i mentioned in the original thread where this was suggested, ,especially in North America where the legal system is a mess, I think a lawyer could easily argue that there is a difference between "Apple Labelled" and "An Apple Label". (verb vs. noun) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-533529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Adams Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Ummmmm interesting. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-533589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak1234567 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 buy a MBP install OSX rename it "Hackintosh" finished Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-533694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I already have an Apple sticker on my "hack". Yay it's legal! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-533889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmoarena Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 oops I lost the apple stickers came with ipod Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-535031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 What is the cheapest out there? Apple II, Macintosh 128 ? those are collectables.. G3's however, are to be had for free from junkyards, recyclers & scrapheaps Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-535032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.C. Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 So if you buy a G5 case and plug in your components then it is an Apple Labeled System right?? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-535033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabr Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 So if you buy a G5 case and plug in your components then it is an Apple Labeled System right?? Apple Labelled System? Yes. Apple Labelled Hardware? No. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-535062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Lets get serious for a second.. It's all nice & funny & all, but please don't think this "sticker" ploy has anything other than entertainment value. There are issues with the SLA, the EULA, the APSL, and various anti-reverse-engineering legislation around the world that mean OS X on non-apple hardware *may possibly* be done legally *in certain jurisdictions*. This amusing phraseology doesn't enter into it. It's a bit like the 6-year-old who thinks a police badge makes him a cop. fwiw, I have a harddrive here with an official apple logo on it from the factory, and an identical model without.. would booting from one be more legal than the other? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-535101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 those are collectables.. G3's however, are to be had for free from junkyards, recyclers & scrapheaps Sometimes I see a G4 PowerMac (grey one) here at the office, they use it as part of a office stage of a soap opera that's filmed here.Maybe some day I'll steal it Lets get serious for a second.. It's all nice & funny & all, but please don't think this "sticker" ploy has anything other than entertainment value.oops, sorry, I didn't see this, just after I replied the other Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-535365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtreanor Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I didn't say anything about uploading though... Who says I use BitTorrent? Sorry. Mybad Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-536177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konami® Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 With PC_EFI we can buy the retail OS X and install without problems in our hackintosh (I think you need to patch few kexts) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-536274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagal Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 With PC_EFI we can buy the retail OS X and install without problems in our hackintosh (I think you need to patch few kexts) But that does not make it legal. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-536343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ongeloof Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 Apple uses EFI to boot their software? Yes? if we had the same or near enough the same hardwae, and by near enough i mean calling your AMD MSI mobo an accessory to your new iMac, and added a few kext then its just personalising your comp..yes? no? there is gonna be a loophole somwhere, we just need to find it before apple do... Putting everything in an old G5 pro case, big old TFT monitor from Apple, and bob's your uncle, loophole... just keep your gob shut about that fudging 5600+ CPU you run on.... Think Mark Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-585873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassJAw Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 It's funny how badly you guys try to justify this. Just like with piracy. It's wrong and you keep trying to make it right. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-585904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Adams Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 We be outlaws. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-585929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted January 20, 2008 Author Share Posted January 20, 2008 It's funny how badly you guys try to justify this. Just like with piracy. It's wrong and you keep trying to make it right. You do realize that this is mainly just a joke right? Of course piracy can't be justified. But, if you go into a store, buy a legal copy of Leopard, and patch it to work on your hack, it isn't piracy is it? But the EULA still says that you can't run it on non Apple hardware I guess... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/75491-how-to-make-mac-osx86-legal-or-at-least-somewhat-legal/#findComment-585932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts