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Colonel Ingus
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OS X is not more safer becuase of the market share...its safer becuase its built on a UNIX/BSD core foundation. This is what fundamentally makes it more safer from the start.

That's absolutely correct! OS X is better from the core design. Windows is inherently worse for the same reason. Market share has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. Actually 'market share' as a term is even incorrect, which shows you just how ignorant the windows fanboys are because market share only speaks of recent sales. They are being disingenuous when they try to focus a conversation only on "market share". Here are two words you'll never hear a windows fanboy say - 'Installed Base'. For those who are unfamiliar with the two terms; market share reflects ONLY sales over a particular period of time, where as installed base is a measurement of the number of units of a particular type of system (usually a computing platform) actually in use. Think about it, when was the last time that you bought a new computer? It probably wasn't last month, but that doesn't mean that you aren't using a particular platform right? This is why 'installed base' is a more reliable indicator. As of a few years ago the installed base of Macs was 16-20% and that was before the slew of Mac mini's and Mac laptops were sold! This shows that it is a myth that "95% of people use windows" and it's probably closer today to only somewhere around 75%. Still a large number for sure, but a LOT less than the fanboys want you to believe. This is why the success of Leopard is so important. It could very well allow Macs for the first time to be closer to a 50/50 install base with PC's in a few years. The trend however is clear, ever since Intel Macs and the befuddlement of vista, windows is losing ground everyday, and more and more people are trying out Macs and happily KEEPING THEM! ;)

 

The world uses Windows boxes becuase the vast majority do not have the sufficient knowledge to realize that there are other operating systems out there, and ofcourse the fear of switching still exists.

Plus a lot of people are misinformed and still believe the myth about 'Macs cost more'. Sometimes when I tell people that they can buy a new Mac for a round 599.00 they think that I'm joking. When I tell them to go to the Apple site and see for themselves, they snatch up the Mac in a heartbeat :D

 

Apple sees to security measures in the proactive route...not in the reactive route.

That's a very good point.

 

you would need to do SEVERAL things and MEET several critical objectives in order to even reach this threat. For one, you would need to be running a specific version of OS X in order ot be affected...which was OS X 10.2.5 or 10.2.6 ONLY, and secondly, out of those two revisions..you would need to be running Safari 1.0, and lastly, you would need to visit its malicious site in order to activate the apple script which BTW can be deleted and the threat would stop.

Actually there was another step that they had to take too :D They had to click on a specific ad from xgeeks or something like that. That's four things that a person had to do to get it, and I bet those fanboys wish that windows was that secure :P

MadDoggyca
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I just lost my only IQ I had left reading ...thanks....I have mac moron on the left side of my brain. Lin-sucks on the right side of my brain and windowz fanbow in the middle. who cares what you people run as long as it works? and works for you and only you?

 

Pokes the OSX hee hee sexy.....rubs my ass in lin-suxs... ha ha ha linux dose suck,,,ha ha ha my ass ha ha ha ...... looks over to windowz ...atlest the game on!

 

so windows plays....... OSX works............ and Linux suck {censored} tryign to get somthing atlest????

 

 

 

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How to crash Windows Vista in 10 seconds: Hold down the Windows key and the letter "E" for 10 seconds or so. After opening up Windows Explorer windows ads, your system will freeze and crash.

 

ha ha ha I felt for that I acutlly tryed it... opened 36 insteates my Computer.... but did not crash.........??? it jsut lagged for 10 sconds and thn I right click and closed all at onces..

Alessandro17
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Now that being said...OS X is not bulletproof...I have said this on numerous accounts. Anyone who thinks that is just kidding themselves to fallacy. However, it is by far THE MOST secure and stable personal operating system out there.

 

As an aside: I suppose that Fedora/Red Hat with SELinux enabled or SUSE with AppArmor are also quite secure.

CLiDE FTW!!1
CLiDE FTW!!1
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This shows that it is a myth that "95% of people use windows" and it's probably closer today to only somewhere around 75%. Still a large number for sure, but a LOT less than the fanboys want you to believe.

Source?

 

Or is this another one of these myths that you mac fanboys come up with?

apowerr
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This shows that it is a myth that "95% of people use windows" and it's probably closer today to only somewhere around 75%. Still a large number for sure, but a LOT less than the fanboys want you to believe.

It is less than 95% but all sources I know of agree that its above 90%. The source I use most, because its updated every month is : http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=2

According to the above source (this is only Desktop users, if it was server Linux would be wayyyy higher and Windows way lower :D )

 

All Windows versions (June) -92.93% (Up from 92.68% in May)

Windows XP- 81.94%

Windows Vista- 4.52%

Windows 2000- 4.00%

Windows 98- 1.14%

Windows NT- 0.66%

Windows ME- 0.59%

Windows CE- 0.06%

Windows 95- 0.02%

All Mac Versions (I would bet the majority of these are OS X, and the majority of that is 10.4. Steve Jobs said something like 70% of the OS X install base was 10.4)- 6.00%

3.52%

MacIntel- 2.48%

All Linux Versions (Remember, this is desktop) -0.71%

All of the above figures are from June 2007.

Colonel Ingus
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The source I use most

Again, that site is market share, and only for computers connected to the internet. That is completely different than installed base. A PC's market share will always be higher than it's installed base because on average most PC's last only 2-3 years, and then replaced, keeping the 'market share figures artificially inflated for the PC's. We are talking about how many PC's vs. how many Macs are in use (installed base) not how many are sold (market share) :D

Colonel Ingus
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You do know how to do simple math I hope :rolleyes: As mentioned the installed base was around 16-20% pre-Mac mini, iPod and Mac Intel. They've gained around 4-5% since then because of it. A little first grade subtraction would show you that would bring the PC install base to around 75% give or take a percentage point. This is because for every new Mac sold to a former PC user, it means that at least two Windows PCs will go unsold. Macs typically have 2 1/2 times the life cycle of a PC. Some Macs go much, much longer, but on average it's 2 1/2 times longer than a PC. This might explain it a little bit better for you IF you are open minded/fair minded:

 

PCs have a short life span, and a large percentage--around half, according to IDC--are sold to businesses that dutifully recycle them at regular intervals.

 

Among home users, the epidemic of Windows malware and viruses prompts most users to just dump their existing PC and buy a new one rather than spend hundreds of dollars on tech support to clean it up and keep it working.

 

Maintaining a PC costs professional users around five times as much as a Mac.

 

The volume of new Windows PCs sold is therefore more impressive than the installed base of existing PCs. For Macs, the opposite is true. Macs tend to be kept in use longer, for a number of reasons:

 

1. •Apple extends support for older machines far longer with its operating system software.

2. •Older Macs are faster running a newer version of Mac OS X; older PCs can't even run the latest Windows.

3. •It is easier to support and maintain older Macs; older PCs rapidly become more expensive to maintain.

4. •Older Macs retain a high resale value, older PCs actually have a negative value after the recycling fees. link

 

Between fiscal 2001-2004, Apple was unable to ever sell one million Macs within a quarter; it sold around 800,000 Macs per quarter during that time.

 

In fiscal 2005 (which began in the winter quarter of 2004), Apple sold its first million Macs in a quarter since the tech bubble in 2000.

 

Since then, Apple has never sold less than a million Macs per quarter.

 

For the last two quarters, Apple sold over a million and a half per quarter, double what it was selling just two years ago.

 

By doubling the number of new Macs sold, the installed base of Macs will grow even faster relative to short lived PCs that give up after a brief but troubled life in the virus and malware infected swamps of the Windows world.

 

Based on Gartner’s estimated sales forecasts for 2006-2010, Apple’s percentage of the overall installed base will jump by 50%.

 

You have to also keep this in mind:

 

The iPhone could nearly double the size of Apple within two years. Apple revenue is now at $24 billion. Munster projects iPhone sales could push that to $42 billion — including $15 billion in iPhone sales — by 2009. link

 

Regarding security, I was just looking into red hat and found this and this. :P

 

Check out the graph below. Notice the STEEP incline of sales for Intel Macs. Plus keep in mind that it will jump even higher as many people are waiting for Leopard to come out so they can buy a new Mac. Macs install base is growing by leaps and bounds. Hope I can afford to buy some Apple stock soon :D

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Rez.
Rez.
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You still need Technicians but only at the start. Just to get it setup and the network running.

 

The only other thing Techies are needed for with a mac is probably upgrading to the latest OS and thats really easy so...

 

 

...if you insist :D

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There's a good machead ...

Azurael
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A very scary list of reasons you shouldn't use Vista:

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

 

By the way, have you ever seen anybody successfully playing an HD DVD or Blu-Ray disc under Windows to a digital monitor/tv? My experience is that it doesn't work, even when people have the right equipment (HDCP graphics card, etc...)

Corwin06
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Posting about my only experience in Vista :

 

 

First look : wow, shiny interface. Where are the settings? Hidden. No, rather : buried. I already used to feel I was forced to jump through hoops to get anything to work on XP, but on Vista it's even much worse. Why are presentation options for my file manager mangled with settings that affect the system?

Next, trying to do something : play a legit DVD. Can Vista do that? No. Not on the Toshiba laptop I tried it on, because "there is no protected content path for hi-def content". So to play a DVD that is NOT HD, Vista told me to replace the graphics card and monitor. On a laptop.

I didn't half-try , I wanted to watch it. Rebooted in Linux, which uses the theoretically illegal libdvdcss, but works fine.

 

You know what I love in OSX? That I know how it works, but I don't need to know it.

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sej111
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I just thought I’d throw my 2 cents worth in.

 

First, Vista Home Edition came installed on my Toshiba laptop and it’s unbelievably bad. I just bring it up once in a while for a few things like net library that doesn’t support Mac. Vista now refuses to accept updates, sometimes connects to the wireless in one minute..sometimes five, the system at idle requires 600 MB of RAM with no apps running, and last but not least isn’t compatible with a lot of software that I use often on my XP machine. On the same laptop 10.4.8 boots right up, everything works but wake from sleep and the webcam, and logs into my wireless 8 seconds after the desktop appears every time without fail.

 

Old Macs: I have a 1995 vintage 9500 PPC with a 1 GHz processor upgrade and 1 GB of RAM that started with system 7 and is now running 10.4.8 and system 9.2. It’s been running OS X since 10.2. (XPostFacto is used to convince the OS X installer it’s a G3 or better).

 

It’s true I don’t use it very often anymore, but I can assure you that old work horse, with untold thousands of hours of hard use is 100 times more stable than Vista. I just walked over and hit the power key, and used it to make this post.

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