meg2014 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 That's exactly what I got on my Mac Pro 7,1 hack (17.3 GB). On my M4, it was much smaller (and much faster). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeveedee Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 @schrup21 I've seen that posted as well. Why are hfsplus.efi and apfs_aligned.efi considered to be mutually exclusive? I would think that both are required. 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgp Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 (edited) 46 minutes ago, calmesal said: Hi all! Is the DP3 to DP4 incremental or a full upgrade? I am getting 17.36 GB download. @calmesal, @meg2014: If you are using OCLP-mod revert the root patch before the upgrade and you will get the incremental instead of the full upgrade. Edited July 24, 2025 by KGP-iMacPro 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlocks Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 1 hour ago, BALDY_MAN said: Abit late to the party with the Z97 HACK. Update went well for me. used MyKextInstaller. to get sound working though motherboard HDMI Worked oob sleep works after 20 seconds. USB work OOB Internet works with kext. happy days Can you share your EFI? What is your RX6600 brand? My RX6600 is Asus Dual Fan model. And use HDMI. Normally i got black screen without WEG and pike bootarg in Sequoia. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludox Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 Perfect update, everything works as before 3 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BALDY_MAN Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 54 minutes ago, Sherlocks said: Can you share your EFI? What is your RX6600 brand? My RX6600 is Asus Dual Fan model. And use HDMI. Normally i got black screen without WEG and pike bootarg in Sequoia. ok give me a Minuit please Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meg2014 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, KGP-iMacPro said: @calmesal, @meg2014: If you are using OCLP-mod revert the root patch before the upgrade and you will get the incremental instead of the full upgrade. @KGP-iMacPro and everyone else! It's over and done - literally days ago. And I don't care how big or not so big it was. My system, now, is working extremely well. And, for the third (!!) time, I do NOT use OCLP or OCLP-Mod.... Edited July 24, 2025 by meg2014 1 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlrycm Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 3 hours ago, deeveedee said: @schrup21 I've seen that posted as well. Why are hfsplus.efi and apfs_aligned.efi considered to be mutually exclusive? I would think that both are required. @deeveedeeThis is my understanding too after reading the bug created in the acidanthera repo to address the FileVault issue in Tahoe. Both files are required. 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
laobamac_yyds Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 (edited) macOS Tahoe PB1 25A5316i https://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/13/40/082-89906-A_R8UGYTANE1/sxy5n3jqp4p7z5znaqhg04ylkfzgkfr66r/InstallAssistant.pkg Compared to Beta4, there is almost no difference. If you don't want to upgrade, you don't need to download😢 Edited July 24, 2025 by laobamac_yyds 3 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockDown Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 (edited) 11 minutes ago, laobamac_yyds said: Compared to Beta4, there is almost no difference. Pardon me...I dont get it. this is different from other B4 link or you're comparing it with B3 🤔 Edited July 24, 2025 by LockDown Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
laobamac_yyds Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 11 minutes ago, LockDown said: Pardon me...I dont get it. this is different from other B4 link or you're comparing it with B3 🤔 It refers to content without substantial changes, not links... 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockDown Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 (edited) 37 minutes ago, laobamac_yyds said: It refers to content without substantial changes, not links... Thats not what i meant. You posted a link and compared it with B4 Anyway, i verified it. You were comparing it with Public. All good 👍 Edited July 25, 2025 by LockDown 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
webipsum Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 Beta 4 and PB1 is the same: 25A5316i. So I understand that it is the same. 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
surenmunoo Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 Anyone else notice that the USB configuration has changed in Tahoe Beta 4? In Sequoia, my USB's all show as per my USBMap.kext but in Beta 4, all those squared in black does not show. I have booted between these 2 OS's 3 times to verify and its the same, Sequoia everything shows and work but Tahoe its gone. 1 1 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludox Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 Who tried the published beta, is there the applehda.kext? Or even there it was removed.. 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
schrup21 Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 (edited) 13 hours ago, deeveedee said: @schrup21 Why are hfsplus.efi and apfs_aligned.efi considered to be mutually exclusive? I would think that both are required. hfsplus + jumpstart is actually required by the installer; without it, the installation fails after the first step (updates don't require hfsplus). Otherwise, apfs_aligned + disabled jumpstart is sufficient to load/update macOS. Edit - I need to clarify this a bit: it is indeed possible to load apfs_aligned (+jumpstart disabled) and hfsplus, which both bypasses the FV password issue and allows installation via the "install macOS xx" installer to work. Sorry, I've never tried that, but I just checked. Both efis are enabled in UEFI / Drivers, Jumpstart is disabled – both FV passwords are working, and the Tahohe Beta installation via a USB installer is also successful. Edited July 25, 2025 by schrup21 4 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
laobamac_yyds Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 1 hour ago, Ludox said: Who tried the published beta, is there the applehda.kext? Or even there it was removed.. Apple will never recover a deleted kernel extension, keep this in mind 3 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberdevs Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 14 hours ago, ichelash said: oooooops! anybody experienced this..to kindly help out here... This usually happens when you boot the system form two different EFI folders. If you boot the system form one EFI and try to update the system from another EFI with different settings and kexts this error occurs. 4 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robi62 Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 (edited) On 6/15/2025 at 4:23 PM, robi62 said: Guys I have a question for you tech expert I notice when I boot up both with hp 820g4 and hp 1030 g1 it takes a while to get proper desktop background at the start I get all icons but a black background???? Do I have to add a boot arg for whatever green ????? I now have updated ssd and its quick but I still get this at boot Maybe i need to change my frame buffer?? This is config I use. Ps it takes about 45 seconds for desktop background to appear 😬 config.plist Edited July 25, 2025 by robi62 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anto65 Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 What version of OC are you using ? 🤔 Spoiler Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludox Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 4 hours ago, laobamac_yyds said: Apple will never recover a deleted kernel extension, keep this in mind I know! I thought it would be put in the public beta by mistake, like in the first Tahoe beta. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeveedee Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 8 hours ago, surenmunoo said: Anyone else notice that the USB configuration has changed in Tahoe Beta 4? In Sequoia, my USB's all show as per my USBMap.kext but in Beta 4, all those squared in black does not show. I have booted between these 2 OS's 3 times to verify and its the same, Sequoia everything shows and work but Tahoe its gone. I'm not seeing any problems with USB mapping after the Tahoe Beta 3 -> Beta 4 upgrade. My USBPorts.kext is the original USBPorts.kext generated by Hackintool (used since macOS Catalina) with only the addition of usb-port-type and usb-port-number. The map has only 15 USB ports. How many ports are in your USB port map? 3 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matgen84 Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 19 hours ago, schrup21 said: Hi everyone as I read many times about the password issue: a workaround is to load apfs_aligned.efi instead of hfsplus.efi. In addition apfs jumpstart has to be disabled. https://github.com/acidanthera/bugtracker/issues/2499#issuecomment-2993805720 Edit: both can be loaded. Thanks. @schrup21 I've got a stuck login screen after entering password on non-encrypted volume (I never use FileVault). For update to Beta 5, I will try apfs_aligned.efi with Opencore (like Clover is using apfs.efi instead of Jumpstart). Just my opinion, I believe there are lot of bugs like that on Beta macOS Tahoe. 😊 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matgen84 Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 6 minutes ago, deeveedee said: I'm not seeing any problems with USB mapping after the Tahoe Beta 3 -> Beta 4 upgrade. My USBPorts.kext is the original USBPorts.kext generated by Hackintool (used since macOS Catalina) with only the addition of usb-port-type and usb-port-number. The map has only 15 USB ports. How many ports are in your USB port map? You're right @deeveedee Since few years, I use SSDT for USB Ports. Because USBMap.kext has model key depending of SMBIOS. For example, at the end of Info.plist <key>model</key> <string>iMac19,1</string> 2 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1111 Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 7 hours ago, schrup21 said: hfsplus + jumpstart is actually required by the installer; without it, the installation fails after the first step (updates don't require hfsplus). Otherwise, apfs_aligned + disabled jumpstart is sufficient to load/update macOS. Edit - I need to clarify this a bit: it is indeed possible to load apfs_aligned (+jumpstart disabled) and hfsplus, which both bypasses the FV password issue and allows installation via the "install macOS xx" installer to work. Sorry, I've never tried that, but I just checked. Both efis are enabled in UEFI / Drivers, Jumpstart is disabled – both FV passwords are working, and the Tahohe Beta installation via a USB installer is also successful. Confirming after testing fresh install, I have the option turning OFF So @vit9696 is right using apfs_aligned.efi Spoiler 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/361162-pre-release-macos-tahoe/page/113/#findComment-2837874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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