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Tried in VBox for a bit. Even inside a VM I found it very smooth. Ended updating my current Win10 system to test. It runs well, no issues with it at all so far. I only use Windows for gaming so wasn't bothered about it breaking but it's stable for now.

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Microsoft news announced that it will launch on June 24th.

Personally, I want to try the newest one, so I went to find it and downloaded it until I saw that someone put the link on the various websites to create an alert and immediately deleted it, 

The picture posted, I use Hyper V emulator, easy to use and light, not heavy. It should be good enough to return vmware VBox. 

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Installing with new computers with TPM 2.0 is a snap. But without TPM like my old Ivy Bridge and Haswell computers  it will take alot of googling to be able to install it. It is now my main Windows OS. It is very stable fast and usable. No issues whatsoever.

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😆 I couldn't wait for the official release, I'm testing it I have to say that it's very fluid and I haven't encountered any problems whatsoever.Pleasant graphics totally renewed

 

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Tried to install it, this afternoon, but wasn't able to install it...

Resources insufficient to run Windows 11, but it was the first round only, windows 11 - 1 MorenoAv - 0, but in the end I will win... says I, LOL

 

PS: Solved MorenoAv - 1, Windows 11 - 1...  installed and working...

 

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I myself am not a fan of Windows, but installed it because a friend wanted to see it.

Microsoft has built in many features from other OSes. Especially the most annoying fullscreen feature. Every time you move a window and hit the top you'll get a fullscreen. I hate Linux for that silly feature, now Windows, I hope Apple will not introduce this horrible bug.

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Hi @Slice

Sorry for Off-Topic @Hervé: UEFI, Trusted Platform Module 2.0 (TPM) is mandatory for Windows 11. But this BIOS setting,  it's unsupported for macOS (Hackintosh too): "Secure Boot Violation" (my Z390 Aorus Master config with two HDD, one for macOS and another for Windows).

This is the end of Hackintosh users ! Somebody have a solution :cry:

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43 minutes ago, Matgen84 said:

Hi @Slice

Sorry for Off-Topic @Hervé: UEFI, Trusted Platform Module 2.0 (TPM) is mandatory for Windows 11. But this BIOS setting,  it's unsupported for macOS (Hackintosh too): "Secure Boot Violation" (my Z390 Aorus Master config with two HDD, one for macOS and another for Windows).

This is the end of Hackintosh users ! Somebody have a solution :cry:

hello here once installed I deactivate the TPM and I can use Windows 11 in dual boot with macOS using Clover without worry

I think it is only checked in the install

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4 minutes ago, PG7 said:

hello here once installed I deactivate the TPM and I can use Windows 11 in dual boot with macOS using Clover without worry

I think it is only checked in the install

 

Thanks a lot :)  the best solution for my Z390 config. For older config, I saw some videos to bypass TPM 2.0: it would be the setup file that checks the security. So I will be able to keep using my Hack (Clover)

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4 hours ago, Matgen84 said:

 

Thanks a lot :)  the best solution for my Z390 config. For older config, I saw some videos to bypass TPM 2.0: it would be the setup file that checks the security. So I will be able to keep using my Hack (Clover)

Hi, if you want to set up Windows 11, easy way for you to load ISO on both systems, for example Windows 10 and Windows 11, extract install.wim.
in the sources of windows 10 put it in the sources file As of Windows 11, you will be able to install through the system without being stuck. System check starts with TPM2.0. Windows 11 can be installed from 6-11 generation CPUs. and will have to open tpm 2.0 in this bios only support version with tpm 2.0 My motherboard doesn't support tpm 2.0, but I checked it has a slot to plug in tpm and there's a card for tpm 2.0 for sale as well for my older model.1000.thumb.jpg.963a1fc8c805d75e3fd9dfd71c6270cd.jpg1000.png.30eb239567747f1f281541d2bbe35067.png

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I've no TPM 2.0 Hackintosh systems but my Ivy Bridge Dell Latitude E6230 + Skylake Dell Latitude E7270 (TPM v1.2) + Haswell Toshiba Satellite Pro R50-B can all boot Mojave/Catalina/Big Sur/Monterey with TPM on and/or enabled/activated and whether they boot with Clover (r5133 on the E6230/E7270) or OpenCore (v0.7.0 on the multiple-boot Toshiba).

 

So, as far as I'm concerned, no big drama such as "the end of Hackintosh users" to be expected with TPM on. Quite far from it...

 

NB: TPM and Secure Boot are 2 x completely different things.

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With all the Halabaloo lately about whether your P/C will run without TPM, curiosity got the better of me to find out about my system and it's compatibility or when the time comes, if I will have to jump through the preverbal to install Windows 11. Well it seems my fears were unfounded judging from the result. I did have to go into the BIOS and enable it.

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For what it's worth, just gave Win11 a try on my Skylake E7270 laptop currently with TPM 1.2 (on and enabled). Made the installer on a 16GB SDHC card, booted off it and ran the installer. Win11 installed without even the hint of a f*rt hiccup and no questions/alarms/popups/messages about TPM at all.

 

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NB: an upgrade to TPM v2.0 exists on Dell support web site for this model but not installed

 

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Will now boot with TPM disabled and see what goes on; may push to try and re-install with TPM disabled too.

Will also try to add Big Sur and Monterey on the SSD for dual boot with Clover.

 

 

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Alright, so situation is as follows for this Skylake/TPM v1.2 laptop:

  1. once it's installed, Win11 boots with TPM disabled/off
  2. with TPM disabled/off, Win11 installer boots and initiates the Win11 installation but rapidly complains that the PC does not meet the minimum requirements
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Exact same story on my ageing 2012 Ivy Bridge Latitude E6230. No issues re: TPM version once enabled and the E6230 definitely has no support for v2.0.

 

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So my conclusions are that, with the current beta/dev version made available (build 21996.1):

  1. Win11 needs TPM On/enabled to install
  2. Win11 does not need TPM On/enabled to boot & run
  3. Win11 does not need TPM v2.0 minimum as stated in several places by several people
  4. Win11 does not need Secure Boot as stated in several places by several people
  5. no impact whatsoever to expect for Hackintosh
  6. macOS is still able and will most likely continue to be able to boot and run whether TPM is on or off

In other words, no worries to have.

 

I no longer have anything older than Ivy Bridge but looking at Dell Latitude laptops going back to Sandy Bridge, 1st gen Arrandale E Series or even old Merom/Penryn D Series, most of them have TPM option in BIOS; as such I reckon that many old systems will still be able to run Win11 and OS X/macOS, as long as the hardware remains supported of course, especially the graphics.

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29 minutes ago, Hervé said:

In other words, no worries to have.

So that stupid message it throws up (on my system) until I enable TPM in the BIOS can be ignored!!!???

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Next os of microsoft windows 11 is require to enabled Secure boot mode capable and TPM 2.0

Is it possible to dual booting with OpenCore during enabled Secure boot mode and TPM 2.0 in bois

I hope that opencore team will be preparing about windows 11 requirement

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15 minutes ago, ameenjuz said:

Next os of microsoft windows 11 is require to enabled Secure boot mode capable and TPM 2.0

Is it possible to dual booting with OpenCore during enabled Secure boot mode and TPM 2.0 in bois

I hope that opencore team will be preparing about windows 11 requirement

I can boot macOS just fine with TPM enabled, both on my M4700 and X1 Extreme. I don't believe that's a blocker at all
I'm not actually sure they need Secureboot enabled? The Health Checker was fine with it being disabled
If it really needs to be enabled though, you could probably sign OpenCore yourself and add the key to your firmware. I believe there is a section about it within the configuration.pdf

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