theconnactic Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 So the new Mac Pro is finally born and will be ready to deliver this fall. Some of it's features and some thoughts about how it would impact the hackintosh world: - Dual Ivy-E (or perhaps Sandy-E) Xeon CPUs: that means LGA power management either is here now with 10.8.4 (the MacPro 6,1 definition) or will be here soon with 10.9 (and those with a developer account and a LGA 2011 board will be able to test it now with 10.9 CPU); - Dual GPU Support, at first with FirePro AMD GPUs: at last, Crossfire and possibly SLI under OSX! It could be also either here now with 10.8.4 or be available with 10.9 dp1, with a definition of MacPro 6,1. Testers? Perhaps there's a dormant driver for SLI already available in one of these systems, waiting for different Mac Pro configuration possibilities; - No user upgradeability and/or internal expandability: this new workstation was designed to be powerful, but also small and silent. Thunderbold 2 will be available for extra hardware, such as GPUs (and that will suck, because the 20 GB/s Thunderbolt 2 bandwidth it's just the half of current PCI-e 3.0 16x used by GPUs, and a quarter of the upcoming PCI-e 4.0). Here's a picture of the Darth Vader computer: May the force be with it! P.S.: from Apple's: http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/ 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Dev Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Mac Pro is not coming out any time soon. 10.8.x will most likely never support it on 10.9. Today was just a sneak peak. it will be Dual Ivy B-E as it supports native 1866 ECC ram. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theconnactic Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share Posted June 10, 2013 It will start shipping next december or earlier, Rampage: it will be out this year, it was stated clearly as such in the keynote. All the best! P.S.: do you have a developer account? Can you tell if 10.9 dp1 is really out? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Dev Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 It will start shipping next december or earlier, Rampage: it will be out this year, it was stated clearly as such in the keynote. All the best! P.S.: do you have a developer account? Can you tell if 10.9 dp1 is really out? I know the shipping date is this fall. Never did I say next year. Its going to be at least 3-4 months till it ships. Dev site crashed... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdtran1025 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 This will put an end to graphics card upgrade. I wonder the how much the lowest config will be, considering dual fire pro cards? If they price the same, I'd get me one. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.D. Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 So the new Mac Pro is finally born and will be ready to deliver this fall. Some of it's features and some thoughts about how it would impact the hackintosh world: - Dual Ivy-E (or perhaps Sandy-E) Xeon CPUs: Mac Pro is not coming out any time soon. 10.8.x will most likely never support it on 10.9. Today was just a sneak peak. it will be Dual Ivy B-E as it supports native 1866 ECC ram. Not a dual CPU machine... only a single Xeon. And yeah - looks like Apple is trying to turn Thunderbolt into a cash cow by steering companies to make Thunderbolt devices and forcing those that buy the R2D2 to then buy those Thunderbolt devices. I think the lack of PCIe x16 slots is gonna make it harder for hackintoshes to use dedicated GPUs - time will tell though. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calciumantacid Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 They said clearly that it will be out "later this year". I think it's all designed and ready to go, they're just waiting on Intel to be ready with Thunderbolt 2. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyolc8 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 no user internal expandability, so it's basically a mac mini pro ;D 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derty Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 I dont sure... if its like... but is very good design. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
3.14r2 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Here's a picture of the Darth Vader computerMore like D2 R2 And after reading the official presentation, I must admit it DOES look impressive. Apple expanded their NO WAY TO UPGRADE police from Mac Books to Mac Pros. That's quite logic step (from Apple's POV), but quite sad decision (from user's POV). I wander how many cool nicknames the product is going to have (trash bin, Duracel, D2 R2 to name a few) 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.D. Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 all the nick names that you just listed have already been used - with the ubiquitous "i" in front of them all... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLiPFLoP KiD Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I don't know exactly why, but I am not impressed with this MacPro. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustFortehFun Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I don't know exactly why, but I am not impressed with this MacPro. Its impressive the performance you get from that machine, but sadly its not meant for home users. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theconnactic Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 Not a dual CPU machine... only a single Xeon. What? No, my friend! It will be a dual Ivy-E Xeon E5! All the best! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Dev Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 What? No, my friend! It will be a dual Ivy-E Xeon E5! All the best! No it really only has 1 CPU. It will be a Ivy-E 12 Core CPU. 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
artur_pt Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 hello honesttly it reminde to me a ashtray.... rsrsrsrs but anyway is a impressive piece of hardware.. only 1 fan to all that hardware... new design for refreshing air we will see.. in future good hack Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nota33133 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 COST ? apple has a history of over charging for their higher end boxes will it be 2x 3 x or 4x the price of a user built hack of the same power/speed Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1921563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarac Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 COST ? apple has a history of over charging for their higher end boxes will it be 2x 3 x or 4x the price of a user built hack of the same power/speed apple is doing everything in its power to keep the hackintosh community alive 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1922878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.D. Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 What? No, my friend! It will be a dual Ivy-E Xeon E5! All the best! um... nope - single CPU. One. Uno. один. Une. Einn. Ett. 12 cores - yes, Dual Processor - no. 2 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1922883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
3.14r2 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Does one really need the second CPU, then the one already present, has 12 (twelve) cores? I doubt that. But still, there is almost nothing left, that can be upgraded (by the user) in the new MacPro. 3 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1922898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Dev Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Do one really need the second CPU, then the one already present, has 12 (twelve) cores? I doubt that. But still, there is almost nothing left that can be upgrade (by the user) in the new MacPro. Pro users do. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1922900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
3.14r2 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Pro users do. It depends on what kind of work the pro does, but IMO 12 cores would still be enough for most. If a pro needs more - please welcome to the Hackintosh world! 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1922902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomas Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 um... nope - single CPU. One. Uno. один. Une. Einn. Ett. 12 cores - yes, Dual Processor - no. you forgot "Un" (in french) It depends on what kind of work the pro does, but IMO 12 cores would still be enough for most. If a pro needs more - please welcome to the Hackintosh world! a pro who uses a lot of VMs or for a server, yes 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1922906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Dev Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 you forgot "Un" (in french) a pro who uses a lot of VMs or for a server, yes And who uses a lot go plugins for music and video. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1922918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarac Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 It depends on what kind of work the pro does, but IMO 12 cores would still be enough for most. If a pro needs more - please welcome to the Hackintosh world! I agree completely. Apple has NEVER had the fastest machine around, even when they were not in the mobile business. Why would they now? IMHO, users who need more power than this should look for racked units with dozens of CPUs. As for servers and VMs, UNIX systems would be a much better solution. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/#findComment-1923062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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