Grim Reaper Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Long Cat, on 21 Jan 2014 - 5:56 PM, said: Not saying i wouldn't love a 24-core dual Xeon setup! But for the 'I can't spend more than about $600 on a CPU' people, the i7 was the best choice because of the performance edge over the comparable Xeon - which costs exactly the same. Well said, I think we can agree on this. All the best! theconnactic, You just undermined your own tirade against the i7 as a gamer's CPU. "..., I think we can agree on this." Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/page/3/#findComment-1988881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theconnactic Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 Lol. Now read carefully. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/page/3/#findComment-1988966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balamut Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm not trying to start anything but .... Just a basic search on newegg: ASUS P9X79-E WS LGA 2011 $469.79 8X Crucial 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) ECC Registere $591.92 ($73.99 each) Intel Xeon E5-2687W v2 Ivy Bridge-EP 3.4GHz LGA 2011 150W 8-Core Server Processor $2,199.99 Subtotal: $3,261.70 You can add another grand on SSD, Case, PSU, Misc. stuff. So for about 4,300-4,500, you can get a very powerful workstation. Similar specs iCan(With 2xD500) will go for $6,199.00. The difference: iCan; Small form factor, thunderbolt, workstation grade graphics with ECC (Maybe), "Imma Cool Cat" Effect, the thing called; It's just works (well, rarely does), lack of any kind of expansions (thunderbolt is NOT an expansion in my book), a subconscious instinct to flick my cigarettes ashes in it. Off the shelf future upgrades: CPU, Memory, SSD, maybe wifi Your build: You can do whatever hell you want with it, can get ANY graphics into it x 4, if something burns simply replace it,no need to wait for someone to fix bootcamp so you can install a weird version of *nix on it, a very satisfying thing called I've done it myself, and consider the fact that you can shop around and get it even cheaper(minus the tax and sometimes free shipping). Off the shelf future upgrades: everything. Now, I will play a devils advocate a bit and will say that, building your own rig is a challenging process, you actually kind a need to know what you're doing. Whilst iCan is a plug-and-play. Just my 2c. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/page/3/#findComment-1988981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
3.14r2 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 @ Balamut VGA card(s)? A pro grade VGA card can cost 1K or even more then that. MP has two cards. IMO MP has much better $/performance value than MacBooks or iMacs have. Sure it has some cons (as most Apple devices), but it is still good option (in the base config at least). 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/page/3/#findComment-1988989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Dev Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Best part about this is you could have had this back in 2011... And Haswell-E is coming out in June with DDR4 support... And yet again hack users will have the upper hand again.... 5 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/page/3/#findComment-1989002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theconnactic Posted January 27, 2014 Author Share Posted January 27, 2014 Will have, Rampage! That I surely agree. But currently we don't: this time Apple really nailed it. 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/page/3/#findComment-1989013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balamut Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 @ Balamut VGA card(s)? A pro grade VGA card can cost 1K or even more then that. MP has two cards. IMO MP has much better $/performance value than MacBooks or iMacs have. Sure it has some cons (as most Apple devices), but it is still good option (in the base config at least). Let's agree to disagree.... Given that it's 7970(R9 280x have a bit more punch), few sec. here or there doesn't make huge difference. http://www.barefeats.com/tube08.html Food for thought on ECC VRAM iCans http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1691548 6GB R9 280x http://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-radeon-r9-290x-280x,25632.html Now, I'm not saying one is better then the other, just my 2c. 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/page/3/#findComment-1989897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theconnactic Posted January 30, 2014 Author Share Posted January 30, 2014 Food for thought on ECC VRAM iCans http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1691548 Balamut, that was deliberate: definitely wouldn't be cost-effective to purchase a workstation like the nMP for the sole purpose of GPGPU number crunching - the scientific community is more than well-served with headless dedicated Linux clusters for this kind of ultra-high precision work. For multimedia production workflows, the ECC VRAM would give no advantages - differently from ECC RAM, which is much needed - and would make the already underclocked (for thermal management reasons) D-series FirePros slower. Still, do you really think the sole difference between a workstation grade GPU and a consumer-aimed one is ECC VRAM? No, it's not. Check out this post: http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=25944797#p25944797 All the best! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/page/3/#findComment-1989904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Dev Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Just shows that the GPUs in the new Mac Pro are not par with there Desktop counterparts. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/page/3/#findComment-1990043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theconnactic Posted May 4, 2014 Author Share Posted May 4, 2014 About extreme daisy-chaining with the nMP: http://www.macworld.com/article/2146360/lab-tested-the-mac-pro-daisy-chain-challenge.html 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/page/3/#findComment-2017184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer87 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Mac Pro is not coming out any time soon. 10.8.x will most likely never support it on 10.9. Today was just a sneak peak. it will be Dual Ivy B-E as it supports native 1866 ECC ram. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/page/3/#findComment-2085115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luki1979 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 ^^ you sniffing glue? 1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/289035-brand-new-2013-mac-pro-61/page/3/#findComment-2085747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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