mifki Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 hmm, all i can offer is getting the xp install cd and copying those files over (ntldr etc etc) and then editing boot.ini via the windows install cd and poin tit to your disk (it follows the same sort of foramt as OS X (disk no. # then partiton no. #) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK.Xscape Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 ok so i am booting using acronis os selector and i installed osx and the first time i rebooted it went ok and now i took the dvd out and tried to boot using acronis and it says HFS+ partition error. i tried rebooting it with the dvd but the countdown gets to zero and it wants to reinstall again. any one have any suggestions. thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmkgd Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 ??? So, the help with windows worked, or what?? Have you tried disabling os selector, putting osx partition active and rebooting? It was working according to previous posts, what manipulations were done since then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBK.Xscape Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 i just reinstalled EVERYTHING. it made me kinda mad but i needed my cimputer and i couldnt so anything else. now i can boot into windows with acronis but i cant boot into mac osx. it says HFS+ partition error. i dont know why becuase it worked last time around i installed. i have the same partition set up as last time and i dont know why its not working. the first reboot after installation it worked with dvd in and i rebooted it w/o dvd and it didnt work so i rebooted with dvd and it just wanted to reinstall it. any ideas. thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmkgd Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Reinstalled everything? So couldn't boot back in windows? Same partitioning then, so primary partition for osx, right? Before any extended partition. Forget acronis oss for now: disable oss, put the osx partiton active and reboot. Is it ok? (the reason behing this is to remove any third party layer, and confront the problem itself; you can re-enable oss later) (note: to re-enable oss, you'll need the acronis bootable cd, so don't forget to create it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgg71 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 There is no need for any grub to dual boot. I have a Dell latitude with two NTFS partitions and installed MAC OS on a 3rd primary partition I created after I resized one of the above. I set this as bootable and the system boots by default in MAC OS X. If I press F8 at boot it displays the darwin boot menu from where i can select to boot the partition where my win XP is. VEry easy. No need for grub or acronis or other complicated procedures. I also have mac drive, a software for windoz which allows you read/write on teh mac partitions, sweet. So, from windows I can use all my HD space !!! From MAc OS X I can read the NTFS drives but can't write on them. To clarify: my partitions are like this: 1. winxp primary 2. extended with a logical ntfs parttion for data 3. mac os x primary bootable to boot mac os x you don't necessarily need that partition to be first, just make it primary and bootable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmkgd Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 True, darwin or ntloader are quite sufficient for simple dual-boot windows/osx. Usually people use grub because they already have a linux distro installed, or need to handle multiple windows installs; in this last case, grub or aoss are then very useful at hiding partitions to load another -- it depends how complicated is the setup. == I'm curious about your partition order though: some people have reported troubles when installing osx on a primary after an extended partition. Have not tested that (alleged) problem myself though, but gave these people the benefit of the doubt. So it's good to know it works for someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enthalpystudios Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 hey I've been lurking for quite a while, and I'm getting ready to get an osx86 machine going.... I have a lot of experience with dual boot setups and m$/linux installs, but there seems to be quite a lot of craziness getting osx86 and windose booting off the same drive..... is it really this finicky, or should I just use drive sleds since I have them and have lots of drives? thanks for the great forum... one more post in the hardware thread and I'll be back to searching and reading ;] billy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbmkgd Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Results vary. Myself never had problems with: 1) creating primary partition type 0xAF (before extended partition); 2) making that partition active; 3) reboot on osx dvd and install; 4) finish testing the osx install (after a few reboots); 5) then later deciding which bootloader to use. All this on the same drive (osx on 2nd partition). I always disable any boot manager before installing; that way i reduce sources of problems to pinpoint, if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomkiwi Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Gday guys, i've just got my OSx86 installed and i'm trying to set up a dual boot with Windows XP. Here's my current situation: 2 Partitions, 150GB OSX extended (journaled) 100GB Free Space (not formatted) Anyway, i'm not sure how to format my second partition without destroying my current situation, any one got ideas? I've been trying out the F8 thing at startup just to see if it will work, my keyboard is disabled during this stage (stupid i know, it works for bios page then turns off for darwin then it comes back on!). Also, can i use the terminal to choose my active partition (incase something goes horribly wrong). Thanks, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmanfvrga Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Didn't read all 10 pages, but I tried XP as firs partition, OSX as second. CHAIN0 gave me HFP+ Partition Error. I found this app, OSLoader 2000 on the net, same error. Now I have XP on the first hard drive and OSX on the second hard drive. If I put the OSX drive as first on the cable, OSX boots. Ok, cool. But when I do F8 I can't find XP. Now in the Startup Disc utility, I can't point it to the XP partition either. So I am kind of stuck. I have Acronis boot manager to try tonight, but I am not hopeful. Sombody said something about editing the darwin boot loader? Can I do this and have it see XP on the other drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmanfvrga Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 NO responses? I just wanted to see if anybody had a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marliwahoo Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Didn't read all 10 pages, but I tried XP as firs partition, OSX as second. CHAIN0 gave me HFP+ Partition Error. I found this app, OSLoader 2000 on the net, same error. Now I have XP on the first hard drive and OSX on the second hard drive. If I put the OSX drive as first on the cable, OSX boots. Ok, cool. But when I do F8 I can't find XP. Now in the Startup Disc utility, I can't point it to the XP partition either. So I am kind of stuck. I have Acronis boot manager to try tonight, but I am not hopeful. Sombody said something about editing the darwin boot loader? Can I do this and have it see XP on the other drive? I had the same problem with a new dual boot vista and osx. This thread may help. http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...06&hl=vista In short here is what worked for me: Delete partitions. Create one partition. Install windows. In acronis create a second patition for osx - make it primary and format to fat32 (don't leave this out!). Use OSX install dvd and disk utility to reformat you previously formated fat32 partition to hfs. Install osx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmanfvrga Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I will look at that. I used Partition Magic 7 and made it FAT32 but not primary, I don't think I did, cause I did the thing so many times in one day. Right now I got both on two different hard drives and frankly just want to f'ing boot that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFOnyX Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 I have OSX 10.4.1 and XP dual boot without using any third party software.I only used the osx and xp installation disk.NOTHING ELSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmanfvrga Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Ok, this is f'ed up. I put the ide cables back to where XP is first, then put both drives to be cable select, OS Loader 2000 saw new small partition next to the OSX Parition. I select it, OSX boots. I select Windows, windows boots. I am happy, but don't know how it worked. heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphic Design Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Sorry because I can't read all 10 Pages and because of bad English, now I have the simple question: Do we have any applications to make the dual boot FROM WINDOWS XP that we can boot between Windows XP & Mac OSX no need restart? (Run MAC & Win in the sametime, switch between them by Log off and log in - like the way WINDOWS XP manage their Users) Thanks in advanced! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilterPunk Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I have read now so many threads and the wikis on chain0 but my setup just doesn't work. In my case booting both mac os x and windos is not the problem, I just want to get the chain0 version to work, since I can than easily edit boot.ini when I want to(even hide MacOS at all). My setup looks like that ( 1 physical disk): 1st partition: max os x (100 gb); Type:AF Boot:00 2nd partition: WinXPSP2 (200 gb); Type:07 Boot:80 Both system boot depending on what primary partition i set active. I also can use the darwin bootloade (F8) when 1st partition is active. I have downloaded chain0 and put it on my C (Windows boot and system partition). I also edited boot.ini and included C:\chain0="Mac OS x86" When I restart I get the windows bootmenu. But when I select Mac OS x86 I will get the same many again. It seems as chain0 always leads to the second partition, where in my case windows is installed. Everytime I select Mac OS x86 I will be thown back to the bootmenu. When selction Windows everything is fine. Can someone help me please. (Btw, I choose the order of the os's on purpose) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaCHim Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Hi, I've read so many threads and still didn't found good answer. Can somebody please tell me if it's possible (I belive it is) to triple boot the following systems: 1. OS X 2. Windows XP 3. Linux (whatever the distibution) All threads I read are with Vista. I need to ensure what's the installation sequence and how to do it to boot into all systems properly. Thanks a lot !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svens Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 I think the best way is: Use Linux Partition Mangager.Split your HDD (1st OS shoul be Win,2nd OSX)For safe Data in Linux you should have an Partition for your /home Directory(the you can reinstall your Linux without loss Data) Install Win,OSX and last Linux to use the Grub Boot-Manager The Grub Manager should see all Partitions exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 I THINK ACRONIS IS SH*T IT F*CKT UP MY WINDOUZ PARTITION ! DUALBOOT (OR trIPLE) WITH CHAIN 0 IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO LOSE YOUR FILES! GRUB ITS ALSO GOOD I THINK SALUDOS GREETINGS CIAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailfish Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Multi boot operating systems with Linux that are on separate drives with the BIOS. No Acronis & No Grub. Accomplished by selecting an F key during BIOS post to bring up a drive list or by actually entering the BIOS and prioritizing a drive. This is motherboard dependent. 1. I hooked a 500GB SATA drive to my system (alone) and loaded Windows XP onto it. 2. I repeated the process with Osx86 onto a 360GB SATA drive (alone) 3. Once again with Linux Ubuntu 6.1 onto a 160GB SATA (alone) 4. All drives were added to the system each to it's specific plug in. 5. Testing either from a cold boot or restart, each drive was tested by prioritizing it in the BIOS. 6. All booted normally except for Linux. It gave the error: .bin.sh: can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs) 7. Why did it do this is the grand question... Why didn't it just behave like the other OS's? And how do we fix it? 8. Reboot the system with the live Ubuntu CD with the complete array of drives installed. 9. Select: Applications > Accessories > Terminal 10. In the Terminal Window type: sudo fdisk -l 11. I got this: (note colored text) Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 60800 488375968+ 7 HPFS/NTFS Disk /dev/sdb: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 18703 150231816 83 Linux /dev/sdb2 18704 19457 6056505 5 Extended /dev/sdb5 18704 19457 6056473+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris Disk /dev/sdc: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdc1 * 1 38914 312571192+ af Unknown ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ 12. When same function is performed with only the Linux drive in place it comes up as: Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 18703 150231816 83 Linux /dev/sda2 18704 19457 6056505 5 Extended /dev/sda5 18704 19457 6056473+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris This is the problem. It changed. 13. The menu.lst and the fstab files must be edited to reflect the “b” which is what it becomes when the drives are all in the array. 14. If you are like me, 4 days ago I had no idea where you would find those files. 15. First you need to log in a root or there is no way you will be able to edit them. 16. Places > Home Folder > (hit up arrow twice) > double click “boot” folder > double click “grub” folder and there you will find menu.lst 17. Places > Home Folder > (hit up arrow twice) > double click “etc” folder > and there you will find fstab. 18. My Original menu.lst (single drive): ## ## End Default Options ## title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic quiet savedefault boot title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic (recovery mode) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sda1 ro single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic boot title Ubuntu, memtest86+ root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin quiet boot ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST 19.Edited menu.lst ## ## End Default Options ## title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sdb1 ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic quiet savedefault boot title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic (recovery mode) root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/sdb1 ro single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic boot title Ubuntu, memtest86+ root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin quiet boot ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST 20.My Original fstab (stand alone drive): # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 # /dev/sda1 UUID=acf68984-8e11-4132-b926-ccd4c263201b / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 # /dev/sda5 UUID=56da790e-550a-4751-9fff-05baa2b53494 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/hda /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/hdb /media/cdrom2 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 21.Edited menu.lst # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 # /dev/sdb1 UUID=acf68984-8e11-4132-b926-ccd4c263201b / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 # /dev/sdb5 UUID=56da790e-550a-4751-9fff-05baa2b53494 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/hda /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/hdb /media/cdrom2 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 22.That's it! Enjoy. Many Thanks to gn2 and bulldog for making me think!. It may not be the easiest way to skin the cat but it works. No GRUB and No Acronis. Although now you could set Windows to boot as your default drive, install the Acronis bootloader on Windows and Voila.. There ya go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailfish Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 One of the current updaters to Ubuntu rewrote my menu.lst such that the next time on boot...... it wouldn't boot... Had to edit the a's back to b's to get it back to snuff... ) Just a note for others BIOS booting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuneDevil Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 I havent seen dual boot with win2k, so here is my $.02. (Should be similar to XP) 1. Start with clean disk. 2. Used install DVD (osx) to create 2 partitions. (I made the second partition FAT32.) 3. Install OSX. Reboot and confirm that it is working. 4. Boot off win2k CD, format the FAT32 to NTFS and install - reboot to confirm that it is working. 5. Make the OSX the active partition using fdisk (I used a win98 boot CD). 6. Boot of the OSX DVD and go to utilities -> terminal. 7. enter (w/o quotes) "fdisk -u /dev/rdisk0". This repairs the MBR. (I think I could have done step 5 while here in terminal). Now I'm dual booting OSX and windows 2000 via the darwin boot menu. I still have to hit F8 to choose the partition, but I'm sure I can edit the OSX boot file to prompt me to choose... Man, I love this place. I'm learning so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notinthisworld Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 can i use acronis os selector if i have xp on 1 hard drive and os x on another hard drive? God Bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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