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While it may be years (possibly never, although I think it'll happen) before you can purchase a legitimate copy of OS X for your regular x86 PC, pirates in Bangkok have sped up the process, selling what they call a "retail" version of OSx86. According to Hardmac:

"Pirates of course took advantage of the osx86project.com community discoveries, in order to sell versions they dare to call "Retail Edition", for 6 Euro."

Six Euro? Around 12 Dollars? We find it appalling that someone would try to make a quick buck from someone else's (Apple's) work. And, for the record, we neither support nor endorse any of their activities, nor any illegal use of OS X for that matter. These pirates have used hackers' "cracks" from elsewhere, not "discoveries" from this site.

They do everyone a disservice. Here, no one wins.

UPDATE: Sorry, I miscalculated - 6 Euros would actually be 7.23 in USD. I'm headed to England soon, so I was stuck in Pounds mode.

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It had to happen; interesting choice of logo, though. I'd be interested to know whether they just burned one of the pirated versions, or whether any effort has been put into actually making it useable for the poor tourists who are likely to buy it.

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Yeah, they totally ripped off one of ChrisAshtear's early designs for that logo...

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Wow, I am impressed they beat us (the Mexicans) on the "retail" release. :( ... joking of course!

The time my computer spent downloading the image from torrents worth the 6 euros... too bad they are not selling those here.

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This really sucks. We had someone who thought that we were responsible for this edit the wiki.

All the work done by people here, ripped off by pirates. It was bound to happen sooner or later. I hope this doesn't discourage people.

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Maybe it is the same for Linux developers... I wonder how many things from their open source work have gotten in the Linux distros that are shareware.

The only objective point of view I can envision here is the increase in the popularity of the OS. Of course it is bad for the project gurus, i.e. Maxxus, to have to deal with rip-offs.

The only hope we can have on this is that it gains its popularity among skillful developers in Bangkog who can contribute to the project.

And nevertheless, wait to see what Apple rips off from this project database-experience forum. The unnoficial beta testers like me :(

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haha, no one here should make a peep about someone exploiting anyone's efforts.

this is awsome. where can i buy one of these. its going to be a collectors item.

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All the work done by people here, ripped off by pirates.


Well, to be honest, the only work that people have done here (as in, associated with our site) is research on the TPM mechanism. All the rest - ie Maxxuss patches - have been discussed here, but our site doesn't support what they do.

There is a difference between giving people a chance to talk about something and promoting it. Our site has done the former, although the pirates almost certainly used the information that users have discussed here to carry out what they've done.

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yeah here and concretesurf forums and 360 hacker forums and

this site is the most popular cause it has the nicest gui, i love a nice gui, thats why i love osx. tee hee.

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Steve Jobs is going to be pissed. Will he regret switching to the x86 platform. Look on the bright side Stevie; I am sure millions of people will buy the real thing if you put out to run on plain jane systems (that meet the requirements of course).

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Look on the bright side Stevie; I am sure millions of people will buy the real thing if you put out to run on plain jane systems (that meet the requirements of course).


Exactly, I think this is great. Stuff like this will push Apple to release OS X for generic hardware. Bring on the Dev-Kit Clones!!!

I am still laughing about that box. 100% stolen and it almost looks authentic, really nice work. That "retail edition" part is funny.

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I am not surprised. What amazes me is that it didn't hit the warez shop sooner. I was actually looking through ebay for OSx86 last month.

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"Enterpeneurial pirates capitalize on hackers' work" i dont think 12 dollars a pop is exactly capitalizing.

you also have to consider the costs

the dvds: .29 cents
the box: .55 cents
the plastic wrap: .09 cents
the required mac tax: 10.05

that leaves about 1.02 profit.

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If any of you are really distraught by this revelation, you are really being quite hypocritical as the overwhelming majority of those who have installed the leaked OS x86 onto their computers have pirated the software from Apple. Don't you see that the pirates of Bangkok have done to all of us essentially what we have done unto Apple? The only difference being that one is trying to profit it off of the work (in monetary terms) of a community while others are trying to profit off of the name recognition associated with their "hacking."

Personally, I think it's lame that it is being sold, but I don't find it that morally offensive. It was only a matter of time before it happened. If anything, it is a real measure of how fair the knowledge of this project has spread.

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Come on.

They are doing apple business behalf of steve at minimum charge in the long-term.

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True; however, the TPM information was invaluable in getting the whole thing to work. I'm not saying thsi site was promoting anything, though. People discussed and provided information here.

Oh, BTW: One word. SSE2. That's gonna seriously restrict their customers.

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"Enterpeneurial pirates capitalize on hackers' work" i dont think 12 dollars a pop is exactly capitalizing.

Mashugly didn't even get it right here. Currently the Euro is at about 1.20 USD, therefore 6 Euros equal 7.20 and not 12 dollars. So it's actually much less.

Steve Jobs is going to be pissed. Will he regret switching to the x86 platform.

Why should he? Software piracy in eastern countries is not a new problem. I'm sure you can also get Tiger for PPC in the same shop. The only new adverse side-effect I can see in this case is that some few naive people might take it for the real thing, will soon get very upset about Apple as things are not going to run as expected and lose their interest in OS X. I think it is fair to say that for now and for the foreseeable future, Mac OS X on non-Apple hardware is a nice demo, but very far from being usable in a real-world context.

Look on the bright side Stevie; I am sure millions of people will buy the real thing if you put out to run on plain jane systems (that meet the requirements of course).

As much as I like Mac OS X, I have to admit that I do not believe it has the potential to attract a mass audience for a long time. I think most of the fuss made about Mac OS X is a consequence of its exclusiveness. Once it is no longer exclusive, it will become one operating system among many and people will look at it with different eyes, judge with more realism in their mind. I do not believe that under the current circumstances, Mac OS X for generic PC would have any chance in the competition on the market. I also don't believe most people here would really become loyal Apple customers and buy each and every upgrade of the OS. From what I'm reading here, I simply can't believe it. Most people here don't have any Mac, be it a developer transition machine or classic one, but all of a sudden there's not only the OS X for Intel Preview in their hands, but also commercial PPC applications to run on that OS. Some already stated that they "switched" over to Mac OS X from Windows or whatever (how ridiculous to use unsupported software on unsupported hardware in a production environment). Who of you really believes that these folks paid for the their software? I do not. The same would happen when OS X for generic boxes hit the stores. A few would become long-term Apple customers, many would buy it only once, but most would surely just pirate it.

Exactly, I think this is great. Stuff like this will push Apple to release OS X for generic hardware."

Apple will decide whether it is economically feasible. They're not there to please the crowd, their obligation is to earn money and to continue to earn money. Apple certainly doesn't allow a few pirates to dictate their corporate governance.

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Hmm,

Tourist traps: USD$10 per 4.3G dvd single layer. If double layer DVD, USD$20. Of course there's always room to haggle.

Locals only: USD$2. Over 100pcs, a buck and a half.

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Ooops - good call on my bad miscalculation! I knew I should have checked it - I was stuck in pounds for my trip to England soon.

It would actually be 7.23 in USD.





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