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Mb it's a stupid question, but what exactly i must put in cdboot? What "binaries" ?

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I think ebios errors are related to dsdt.aml, but it should boot anyway.
The parsing plist error means that one of your plist (boot, theme, smbios...) is not correctly wrote. Check all tags of plists files.

The problem turned out to be Disk Utility. I never have problems burning bootable ISOs with it usually... the new Gparted ISO, yesterday, etc... but no luck burning your project. It worked perfectly using Toast.

Edit. I tried also Burn and LiquidCD, both of which can burn ISOs properly (and both free), but got the same error messages. It feels like a bizarre question but has anyone got this iso to burn correctly with anything other than than Toast? I tried magiciso (trial) on XP but still the same result. Nero? Using Toast, though, I got the installer working without dsdt.dml and with just ps2controller, acipsnub and dsmos for kexts. Great stuff. Now, if I can just find something other than Toast to burn the ISO successfully and can figure out how to have Leo and Vista (32) coexisting one the same GUID drive, without imaging a copy of a Vista hard drive onto said GUID partition, I will be happy!

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sonotone: great work ;)

The problem turned out to be Disk Utility. I never have problems burning bootable ISOs with it usually... but no luck burning your project. It worked perfectly using Toast.

ditto

i experience regular hiccups while burning discs with Disk Utility on the hackintosh (never had any problems with my real macs)
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Toast also worked for me as it should: when in doubt, Toast it

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Mb it's a stupid question, but what exactly i must put in cdboot? What "binaries" ?


binary as opposed to source code, read:
http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Executable
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Binary_file
..in this case the cdboot binary that you get when compiling Chameleon from source.

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sonotone: great work :)


ditto

i experience regular hiccups while burning discs with Disk Utility on the hackintosh (never had any problems with my real macs)
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Toast also worked for me as it should: when in doubt, Toast it

I prefer where possible to use a free or shareware solution. Someone who has shelled out for Leopard and iLife is going to wince at the idea of purchasing Toast at the same time. I am on version 9 to Toast and, so far, haven't needed to shell out for yet another expensive upgrade to version 10. Along with the hackintosh, I did try Disk Utility using a real Mac; a PPC Mac Mini. The CD burners on the early Minis weren't the best but I rarely experienced a wasted disc or the need to reformat a cdrw and start over.

If anyone is up for the challenge of finding a working solution that doesn't inolve Toast, it would be great addition to Sonotone's exellent tutorial. Use CDRWs! Another application I tried was good old Dragon's Dragon Burn suite (free trial period), but I found that it doesn't have the option to burn ISOs.

Freeware apps that I have tried:-
Burn
LiquidCD
Magic iso (under XP; the Magiciso 30 day trial burns any image lower than 350MB)

Tonight I will try ExpressBurn.

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I prefer where possible to use a free or shareware solution.

agreed, i just happen to have Toast handy

I am on version 9 to Toast and, so far, haven't needed to shell out for yet another expensive upgrade to version 10.

what's wrong with version 9? I burnt mine with 9.02 just fine
no need to upgrade, upgrading for the shake of upgrading is for consumers...

If anyone is up for the challenge of finding a working solution that doesn't inolve Toast, it would be great addition to Sonotone's exellent tutorial.

hmm not sure if i got you right...
are we troubleshooting bad writers or are we trying to find which apps behave as advertised on the hackintosh?
all of the apps that you tried could not burn an .iso successfully on the hackintosh?

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trying to find apps which can burn this project either on a hack or the real thing. I have never before had problems burning ISOs. In my case the real thing is a non Intel PPC Mac Mini. My concern is that not everyone can afford Toast. Also, I am curious to know the whys.

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I use NTI Dragon Burn on my PPC G3, G4, G5 and OSx86 Q6600..... :)

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trying to find apps which can burn this project either on a hack or the real thing.

ah!
got confused cause you mentioned unreliable writer(s) in macmini, well let see...
sonotone's commands yield a standard, hybrid, bootable iso image, nothing exotic:

hdiutil  makehybrid -o new.iso newiso/ -iso -hfs -joliet -eltorito-boot  newiso/cdboot -no-emul-boot -hfs-volume-name "My Boot CD"  -joliet-volume-name "My Boot CD"

i own a this MacBook Pro, my wife owns this PowerBook G4 and I administer a small army of MacPros @work. I burned sonotone's .iso succecfully w/ any real Mac i tried using:
-Disk Utility
-Burn
-Toast (v9.02)

i burned the same .iso succecfully w/ the hackintosh using:
-Burn
-LiqiudCD
-Toast (v9.02)

In my case the real thing is a non Intel PPC Mac Mini.

nice little box, you mean the G4 version right? I used to take care of one (belonged to my wife) I was really impressed with it as I would give it weird duties @ times (like NFS shares between it and some big unix hosts) and it would stand up respectably.


My concern is that not everyone can afford Toast.

i appreciate this logic as well, especially since there are foss Apps that work reliably

Also, I am curious to know the whys.

it has to do with the whole picture i think:
- Real Macs come with (a finite number of) hardware that Apple develops/supports software/drivers for
- Generic hardware is a pc/MS game where an army of developers (tries to) support every piece of hardware on the planet
- 99.99% of the so called Burner Applications are just a graphical front-end to built-in tools. Some of these Apps (like Toast) include their own device drivers in addition to the ones included with MacOS.
- osX86 is based on generic hardware, hiccups are expected.

btw, if you're curious, you may find interesting the power of hdiutil and why if MacOS X recognizes the writer natively, Disk Utility is all you need.

hth

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Are there any special requirements for the Preboot.dmg as regards:

Name: Preboot
Volume Size: 50 MB ?
Voulume Format: Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
Encryption: none
Partitions: Single partition - either MBR or GPT ?
Format: read/write disk image, or can you use a sparse bundle disk image instead?

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^ you can change whatever you like as long as you get the hdiutil syntax correct, man hdiutil for details

ps: why no-one on this forum trims when quoting? it makes the threads super-ugly in an instant...

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Hi rocksteady, thank you for your thoughts! I have burned a couple more ISOs of the latest Gparted live CD friend using Disk Utility on the Mini without any bother, I have never had problems burning bootable ISOs before. What, I want to know is what is Toast doing that other burning apps are not? Sounds like it might be the third party drivers.

Edit. I have just discovered that ExpressBurn works where Burn and LiquidCD do not on my Mini. My eyebrows nearly popped off. I repeated this test with Disk Utility and Burn and LiquidCD using the same CDRW disc, three burns with each. ExpressBurn works perfectly every time. Best of all, unlike Toast, the basic version of Express Burn is free. I am not into product endorsements; for all I know it is less good at other things than its competitors but, in the case of this Mac Mini PPC and this project, it works!

I use NTI Dragon Burn on my PPC G3, G4, G5 and OSx86 Q6600..... :blink:

Hi Verdant, thanks for mentioning an old favorite! As far as I could see, NTI can not burn ISO projects, though it is great for burning almost every other project and I am fond of it. There wasn't an option, that I could see, and nothing in the instructions. That said, I did download the latest version and it might been revised since I last used it many moons ago.

Are there any special requirements for the Preboot.dmg

In Disk Utility, click on 'New Image'
Volume name: Preboot
Volume Size: 10MB
Volume Format: Mac OS Standard
Encryption: none
Partitions: Master boot record partition map
Format: read/write

I tried a few different combinations and that one worked. - Sonotone kindly supplies an empty Preboot.dmg, though, so you might also try that.

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@Detosx

Remember that an .iso file is a virtual CD or DVD, so in Dragon Burn just hover mouse pointer over CD/DVD/BD Copy......and a brief explanation pop-up window appears......very neat.... ;) It is described in more detail under Dragon Burn Help tab in top menu bar......

Yes I saw Sonotone has supplied a .zip Preboot.dmg......but I want to know of any special requirements for future reference.......I may still experiment with a sparse bundle image and/or MBR/GPT etc......when I have some free time..... ^_^

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The Dragon help tab draws a blank if you enter just 'ISO', actually! 'CD/DVD Copy' - got you, thanks, not a place I would have expected to click on to burn an ISO image but the mouseover box does indeed list ISO! Dragon is truly the Swiss Army knife of burning apps, allowing you to burn all sorts of hybrids, haven't used it since Tiger. I missed that interface. :) There is a reason we used to call Toast 'bloatware', right?!

Okay, the CD boots perfectly, as it does with the others, but it gives me the same bios read errors. ExpressBurn is the winner on this aged but lovely Mac Mini.

Happy experiments with the Preboot.dmg. As far as I can see, Sonotone's Preboot.dmg is the same as the ram preboot image that I created, though it would be interesting if he edited his tutorial to include the settings he chose and possible options.

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Thank`s sonotone...

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Hi.
I followed your tutorial, but when I tell my PC to boot on it, it loads the disc and restarts the BIOS, reads the CD, and all I have is a damn loop. What could I have missed?

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If anyone is up for the challenge of finding a working solution that doesn't inolve Toast, it would be great addition to Sonotone's exellent tutorial. Use CDRWs! Another application I tried was good old Dragon's Dragon Burn suite (free trial period), but I found that it doesn't have the option to burn ISOs.

Freeware apps that I have tried:-
Burn
LiquidCD
Magic iso (under XP; the Magiciso 30 day trial burns any image lower than 350MB)

Tonight I will try ExpressBurn.



I used a free one called "Simply Burns"

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I followed this guide and i'm glad that all works well, except that when i use the normal boot mode, it gives the no smoking sign, and when i use the verbose mode, it stops at still waiting for root device.

What should i do? Advice please please?

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 What do peoples <kernel> </kernel> pointers look like in their Boot.plist? I can boot my Chameleon Boot CD and swap with a retail 10.5.6 but when I select the retail DVD the screen says "Cannot find mach_kernel" and it goes back to the partition selection screen.  

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Sonotone, je t'aime for clarifying these steps ;)

Kind regards, x!





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