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  1. Unlike the first boot file it boots to a solid white screen requiring that I unplug and replug my first DVI socket as seen from left to right so as to see the login screen; having VGA adapter plugged into second socket from same monitor doesn't change that. Anyone know a working workaround? My card is still the PNY 4770 that I and rafiari submitted test results on your first submitted boot file. Encouragingly the third boot file gives me adjustable resolution using 10.6.6's ATI4800Controller kext if I add my card's ID to it, giving me properly working Colour 'Calibration' with my Dell screen, but I still have to resort to 10.6.3's X2000 kexts, support and framebuffer. Graphics enabler Yes and Flicker used in boot.plist. This is an initial report, will run your tests again this afternoon, many thanks.
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    A lot depends on people with 4770 cards going over to that thread and reporting their results with the 4770 cards. At the moment I have to unplug the DVI (if I use the third boot file) when the screen goes gray (at that point you are at the login screen but you can't see it, just a gray screen) and then QUICKLY plug it back in otherwise the computer reboots. Not great. I will probably go back to the first boot file. Unless 4770 users report their results using kabyl's simple tests we could be stuck with this. Do it and feel good!
  3. Thank you for your excellent post, pilsator! I am about to reboot and try this. Do you find having an smbios.plist helpful? I haven't come across a need for one - yet!
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    This amounts to an edit. With Kabyl's new Chameleon boot, just removing the DVI cable and inserting it again works with the 10.6.6 test configuration so to speak. Not ideal but do-able and perhaps there is a workaround. One bit of positive news is that the colour calibrator in System Preferences / Displays /Colour works properly. Colour was by no means poor before on the defaults but I can fine tune without the colour fidelity looking poor/cloudy/very slightly ill defined. Of course, not having Finder function at this stage is something of a disadvantage!
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    An update. I tried netkas's patched ATI kexts which he said are patched for ID ranges 94xx... (albeit he is referring to 4890 cards in his post) but just got native resolution, or what I call VESA and Finder windows flashing open and closed. I then replaced his ATI x4800Controller with the native 10.6.6 one with my device IDs adde (I had before that tried additionally adding our cards ids to the plists of his 4800 and 2000 kexts) and got switchable resolution back, which gave me a momentary thrill - but Finder still crashes when you open a folder. I tried Netkas's boot file (the most recent I could see on his site is Feb2010) but that booted me into a black screen; it worked with cpus=1 but VESA resolution and Finder crashing). Kaybl has a brand new boot file out which I tried. The second one never worked for me. The third gives me a white screen rather than login screen. I experimented with VGA and DVI. I got it to work by unplugging it from the first DVI socket, plugging it into the second and then unplugging it form the second and plugging it back into the first... Gah. I had switchable resolution again but Finder crashes when I open a folder. For the experiment I used all 10.6.6 ATI kexts. and 10.6.6 OpenGL.Framework. I will keep experimenting and report if I make any progress.
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    I updated to 10.6.6 via combo update. If you haven't tried this yourself and want to risk being an early adopter, I can report that the OpenGL.framework gets replaced, along with the ATI kexts. Replacing them with old ones again, it seems to work. My boot up time is quicker, though for the first few boots my Apple Bluetooth keyboard wasn't seen, requiring that I do a hard reset with the power button; after doing that on three occasions it was fine. I appreciate that it remains a less than ideal solution but Youtube functionality and a great looking picture meet my graphics needs. I remain very happy to be able to use this card. I haven't had time to experiment with variations but if I make any discoveries or have any problems by Sunday, I will report back.
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    Hi rafirafi, your inbox is full! I just tried Kabyl's brand new boot file. I get kernel panic during boot up and in -v it shows KP on ATIRadeonX2000 with dependencies IOPCIFamily 2.6 IondrvSupport 2.2 and IOGraphicsFamily 2.2 If you or anyone else have any joy with it, please post what you did, thanks. To anyone starting out, I would consider holding off for now. (Edit: though there is a line scored through it, the old boot.gz file is still available for download. I have had no joy experimenting with the new one, yet).
  8. Thanks Kabyl, I just tried the new boot. I get kernel panic during boot up and in -v it shows KP on ATIRadeonX2000 with dependencies IOPCIFamily 2.6 IondrvSupport 2.2 and IOGraphicsFamily 2.2 I submitted results with previous booter during the testing phase, am using ATI 4770 presently in 10.6.5 with ATI kexts from combo update and OpenGL.framework from 10.6.4; works well with your previous boot using Flicker in bootplist. For now I will go back to the previous boot file. Anything obvious I might have missed? Thank you for your amazing work.
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    Nice little over-clock you have going there on the 965! That lot puts my ancient assemblage to shame! I did consider getting a Phenom II 555 and trying to unlock it to four cores but it sounded like too much of a lottery; some unlock, some don't; who needs the tension!
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    Good to read your findings! I wonder if because my motherboard and CPU are old they are bottleknecking my scores. I have an old Asorck 945G DVI and one of the first core 2 duos. It would good to read your system spec and put my scores in some kind of context! Stability report. Sorry I have been away a while, I got too wrapped up in testing and left other things unattended. The last combination that I outlined is the one that I have been using. No more slightly alarming twinkling spots on the screen that looked like winking hot pixels. Chess panics but I don't play chess, so... and display profile calibration only partially works; but the default settings are pretty much spot on for my Dell 2209WA.
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    Edited, or rather left in for detail; see the bottom for what I settled on, for now. Also, again, you do all this at your own risk. As mentioned, one combination gave the appearance of hot pixels on the screen. Provisional supplemental tutorial on installing your graphics card in a virgin 10.6.5 setup (I will flesh out with some terminal commands over the next week). it's a very good idea to have an adjoining partition to rescue things in case your computer kernel panics and locks you out. The final setup that I went with is pretty much the same as when I was using 10.6.4 and which I intend to go back to because Calibration worked (the default setting is okay but a little dark) and... a string of reasons mentioned below. I have the following kexts, which you need to extract with Pacifist, from Snow Leopard Graphics Update - ATI4800Controller - with my cards id added to the plist Install using Kext Utility I used the OpenGL.framework from Snow Leopard Graphics Update You need to overwrite the existing one which is in System/Library/Frameworks. It's a little tricky, best done from a neighboring partition, and you need to chmod and chown ideally. More on that when I write up another supplemental guide. Then reboot Use Kext Utility to install the ATIRadeonX2000 kexts (all extracted from and not 10.6.3), of which there are four, the one named ATIRadeonX2000 you added your cards id to the plist Use Kext Utility to install ATIFramebuffer and ATISupport kexts (both extracted from Snow Leopard Graphics Update). Reboot. -------- Note, you do this at your own risk. It would be good to have some testers on board who aren't risk averse. I have noted anomalies during testing, including what looked like hot pixels on the screen and also reduced brightness. If you give me until the middle of the month I will keep testing and then post a tutorial proper. If the very excellent rafirafi has any pearls of wisdom meantime, they would be great to hear. Benchmarks? Not the best but I was going for stability. In 64bit I have Quartz 169.78 OpenGL 153.70 /194.98 frames/sec EDIT - not happy with the lack of brightness issue, I tried a few more. Using all (by which I mean the stated needed kexts) with Snow Leopard Graphics Updates openglframebuffer gave me a brighter screen but marginally slower benchmark than the above. Using all with's OpenGL.framework meant no resolution options/vesa-like. Using all with OpenGL.framework from 10.6.4 - the screen is brighter, looks better. in 64bit Quartz is 169.05 and Open GL is 168.19 /213 frames/sec. Under 32bit it runs a little bit slower. Using the OpenGL.framework package from 10.6.3 (as opposed to from - incidentally I compared's ATI kexts, or at least the ones we use, with 10.6.3's; both have the same number identifiers in the plist but the OpenGL.frameworks are different sizes/number of files within) Best of four tests with Quartz on my setup is 169.40 and Open GL is 153.06 / 194.16 frames/sec; usually the scores in OpenGL were around 10% lower than that. Under 32bit boot is slow and benchmarks are a little slower than under 64bit. I seem to have traded day for night. A few more experiments tomorrow and then I'm done.
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    Here is what I have found (and I would greatly welcome reading other people's experiments). I used XBench to benchmark, running it four times on each setup with no other Applications running. First, at all times to begin with, unless stated otherwise, I was using ATIRadeonX4800controller from 10.6.5 (just add your cards id to the plist) the X2000 kexts from while leaving the ATISupport and ATIFramebuffer kexts as 10.6.5 (though later I tried swapping these out for those from --- I started with OpenGL.framework from Snow Leopard Graphics update (I was unable to get the OpenGL.framework from 10.6.5. to work, or initially the one from (though starting the version up with the arch=i386 command it worked and subsequently worked in 64bit, also) or from 10.6.4, which did briefly work but I have been unable to repeat - edit, see end of post). Xbench scores were very interesting, with OpenGL.framework from helping post an Open GL graphics test score of 280.27 /355.54 frames per second in the spinning squares test, as against 167.18 in Quartz and 146.67 /186.06 for OpenGL.framework from Snow Leopard Graphics update. In Snow Leopard Graphics update 64bit mode Quartz is 161.63 and OpenGL is 140.36 / 178.22) In Quartz it was 183.87 for OpenGL.framework as against 166.65 Chess worked perfectly with OpenGL.framework from Snow Leopard Graphics Update. I was going to try it with the version from but then something strange happened. Acceleration under 64bit no longer worked when trying out widgets, and then the same booting into 32bit. I have no idea why it stopped working but there you go, very frustrating in that the OpenGL results were so much better. --- I thought I would try OpenGL.framework from 10.6.4 one more time. It worked this time, but Chess causes a panic in 64bit. In 32bit Chess works - for a few minutes, but then the screen went orange and I was promptly logged out. I logged back in but there was a Finder error message when I got there. Quartz scored 168.40 and OpenGL 157.35.79 /199.60 frames a second in 32bit mode and Quartz 159.28 and OpenGL 142.39 / 180.63. ----- A few more. Using the ATI4800Controller from 10.6.3 with the above mix, in 64bit I get Quartz 169.07 and OpenGL154.19/ 195.60fps. In 32bit mode I get Quartz 166.26 and in OpenGL I get 150.70 / 191.17ps. I then tried adding's OpenGLframework to the above but that lost me toolbar panel transparency and the effects in Dashboard (acceleration) I then tried using all of the kexts and the OpenGLframework from but again no panel transparency/Deshboard effects. I then tried all with 10.6.4's OpenGLframework - line result in 64bit was 169.30 and OpenGL was 164.98 / 209.29. In 32bit it was 166.58 for Quartz and 158.99 / 201.69. I then tried OpenGL framework from the origianl 10.6.3 (rather than but I was back to no acceleration. I then tried ATI4800Controller with the above; it wouldn't boot at first but... At this point I noticed something. I usually calibrate a new setup for my Dell monitor. I found that Snow's calibration application wasn't working properly; the colors looked okay if going with the defaults so I hadn't tried before. In conclusion! I am going to go back to 10.6.4, which is to say I will follow my own tutorial (and update anything where needed). I will keep a separate partition for 10.6.5 and keep experimenting but, realistically, I am looking at mid December earliest before I write up a full 10.6.5 tutorial. As always, rafirafi's concise notes are a good starting point! My frustration throughout my tests is that's OpenGLframework was by far the fastest when used in the combination stated above - but unstable and then unusable. If I learned anything it is that, fairly consistently, the benefits of running Snow in 64bit aren't to our advantage from the graphics card point of view.
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    Hi, I was going to hold off doing this until mid December but I will bring it forward a bit and start on Saturday or Sunday. I wanted to do a clean install, which I have done, and experiment a bit. Provisionally I did so but with mixed results. I found myself unable to get back to where I was before the clean install. rafirafi, in an earlier communication you had said use the OpenGL framework from 10.6.3 or 10.6.4 preferably. So I went with 10.6.4 and I seemed to have it working. This time around I had ATI4800controller from 10.6.5 ('Snow Leopard Graphics Update's 4800 and 10.6.4's 4800 didn't work; error messages were flagged up in verbose boot mode but ATI 4800, with whatever your respecive cards id is inserted into its plist, from 10.6.5 seemed okay), then I used OpenGL framework buffer from 10.6.4, then I rebooted. The screen looked a little fuzzy, which I hadn't had before, but I carried on and installed the ATIx2000 kexts from update (extracted with Pacifist), installing the ATIX2000 kext last of all to avoid kernel panic (again, you need to have whatever your cards id inserted into the plist). I remade the caches and on reboot in verbose mode used -F -V. My first trial run seemed to work okay but then, when I started from scratch to double check, I got a yellow screen at the end of boot. I'm not sure where I am going wrong - I have been installing kexts manually with terminal so perhaps I am doing something wrong, there, where previously I had been using Kext Utility, but will try again on Saturday and Sunday if I can make some time! Incidentally, be careful if you are playing along at home - if you can't overwrite the OpenGL framework package - it's in System/Library/Frameworks - and instead delete it to then drop in the one from 10.6.4 (or 10.6.3 as rafirafi is saying above), you will find that Finder stops working a moment or so later! - it's always a good idea to have an adjoining second Snow Leopard partition so that you can rescue yourself from any damage done! In fact, if people could breifly list which combinations they have tried that haven't worked for them, it would help everyone who is willing to experiment a bit.
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    Hi Malloot, the best way to avoid the inverted colours is to get rid of login. Unless you are in a public environment you possibly don't need it. I haven't tried games, so do report back any findings! Could you elaborate a bit on the part about 'adding SET GxApi "OpenGL" to Config.wtf fixes it'? (without providing an external URL to another website as the moderators don't like that) and maybe post a URL from within insanelymac if the procedure is listed within the insanelymac forum? I think with games it is a good idea to keep an eye on heat. I would be tempted to tell people to have a dual boot setup so they can run games in Windows as heat has been known to kill hackintosh hardware, including an HP laptop I owned. We all proceed in this hobby at our risk, but within that disclaimer it is always interesting to read others experiences with our card.
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    I was going by what rafiari had suggested to me some months ago. When I messaged him yesterday he hadn't yet tested the final of 10.6.5. I imagine when he has tried it out himself and experimented a bit he will stop by. Meantime, what I wrote above worked for me based on what he'd suggested some months ago. I was champing to try it out and went for it when I read your post. I hope to be able to experiment over the next week or so. (I tried the new OpenGL.Framework but my screen went a solid yellow instead of booting to desktop, periodically flashing, so I went with the previous OpenGL.Framework as suggested and it seems to be working.) I have a couple of other partitions and will experiment over the weekend if time. Meantime, I have been running the update as I described above for a full day now without ill effect. I thought the card's fan was working a little harder but I just stopped it with a finger and then let it run back up to speed and it's pretty quiet, though I am not running any graphically intensive applications at the moment, so any additional noise I am hearing is possibly from the CPU fan, though Temperature Monitor shows at most a 2 degrees C rise in previous temps from 10.6.4, which is insignificant and could be down to room temp. Without otherwise touching the card the air above it feels just warm; no overtaxed electronics smell, thus far. Things seems a little zippier but I need to benchmark. Youtube, which was okay before, seems less glitchy but that might be down to work done on the site.