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10.4.3 Security Broken. And we're a little surprised...

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Sources indicate that OSx86 10.4.3 – which, as reported in this space, contains increased hardware restrictions – has now been cracked in the same fashion as 10.4.1. It was initially thought that these restrictions would slow the progress of hackers, but it appears that they've done little to deter those tackling the challenge.

 

There are many interesting aspects to this news. First, it appears that Apple’s security enhancements between releases simply were not effective. Also, not only has the hacker named Maxxuss been able to hack the kernel to run on non-Apple hardware, he’s also been able to make the OS available to those who don’t have the most cutting edge hardware available.

 

While Apple has promised to lock their operating system to their hardware once its released, one must wonder what method they will use and if it will be stronger than the current TPM restrictions. While the TPM technology is itself virtually uncrackable, hackers have been able to fool the OS into thinking it doesn’t need the TPM authentication.

 

Will Apple ever be able to create a truly hack-proof OS? Right now it seems the score is Apple: 2 (leaked) releases, Hackers: 2 releases. With Intel Macs likely on the way in January, it’s game point and Apple’s move.

 

Stay tuned here for the latest news as it happens.

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satanist
So what does this mean? :huh:

 

what's it's always meant - that Apple has no practical way of locking down the OS. If they didn't have an open-source kernel it might be a bit harder, but at the end of the day, whatever they do, short of encasing the motherboard in epoxy resin and releasing encrypted OS binaries, they cannot stop people running the OS on other hardware.

 

Personally I'm not very fussed. I just want to get my hands on x86 hardware so I can avoid buying a {censored} PC laptop. A cracked version of OS X will just give people a taste and drive them to Apple hardware becuase they will realise that for the extra money, the improved experience/quality is worth it (witness the iPod). My guess: Apple will try to resist cracking, but they won't go so far as to make their hardware non-PC compaitible, becuase they want people to buy their hardware (laptops mostly I'd say) to run Windows.

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Templeton Peck

EDIT: Satanist already made my point.

 

P.S. I tried installing it on my XP partition (which I obviously erased) but the Installer hung @ 95% (Essentials Installer Script). As a result, my machine restarted shortly after selecting the 10.4.3 partition. My DVD boots to a kernel panic, but it used to reset until I enabled the XD bit. But this resets anyway which leads me to believe the installation got botched. Any yes, I installed the TPM crack. I think I know what the problem is so I'll see if I can get it working. Again, kudos to you Maxxuss!

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bofors

The only thing that I would like to add is that, so far Apple's best defense in preventing people from running OSx86 on their own machines is the fact that these have have been private releases to developers. As such, "hackers" have had to wait for OSx86 leaks and worry about "marking" issues in addition to doing the strictly technical work. Come January, that game is up.

 

The second issue holding OSx86 back is graphics drivers, when Apple chooses to release Intel Macs with NVidia and ATI cards, that game will be over too. In fact, as Mashugly and I were talking about in another thread here, we might see Apple continue with Intel GPU's for at least hte first public release of Intel Macs for a number of reasons that also include profitability. In recent history, Apple hardware has been a least one generation behind on graphics technology and to the extent that Macs are not for gamers, they have gottten away with cutting corners there. We should expect more of the same with Apple's new Intel partnership, whereas Intel sells not only CPUs but also GPUs to Apple at major discount, just like Samsung sells Apple flash memory for the iPod Nano well below market price.

 

Frankly, I continue to believe that Apple could care less about some small minority of computer users running OSx86 unsupported, despite the lastest information being reported about their patent filing for some kind of obfuscation technology.

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gl@zura
Personally I'm not very fussed. I just want to get my hands on x86 hardware so I can avoid buying a {censored} PC laptop. A cracked version of OS X will just give people a taste and drive them to Apple hardware becuase they will realise that for the extra money, the improved experience/quality is worth it (witness the iPod). My guess: Apple will try to resist cracking, but they won't go so far as to make their hardware non-PC compaitible, becuase they want people to buy their hardware (laptops mostly I'd say) to run Windows.

 

Damn I totally agree with this!!!

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spacest

i read maxxus site and i'm a little confused. i have 10.4.1 patched with the 600mb os x update (partial 10.4.3). pc has sse3, intel video and everything. what to do to get 10.4.3 apart from the dvd/iso method?

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namecaps
i read maxxus site and i'm a little confused. i have 10.4.1 patched with the 600mb os x update (partial 10.4.3). pc has sse3, intel video and everything. what to do to get 10.4.3 apart from the dvd/iso method?

 

read info on maxxuss page. It's simple.

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Hagar
don't really see a reason to update cause i won't really see the diff anyways with my radeon x800.

just hope someone makes compatible kexts soon : )

 

ahem.. seen this?

http://forum.osx86project.org/index.php?s=...indpost&p=29675

 

Anyone know when the installable dvd is due? I wonder if Maxxus is making it himself this time around..

 

Check his site, I believe it's patch as patch can this time around..

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Guest Bugs
So what does this mean? :D

Basically, it means a new project to undertake for those who enjoy beating their head against a brick wall.

Apple is the alternative to Windows who want to escape everything crappy about Windows.

The free operating system is Linux. It comes with a lot of free, quality software.

The learning curve for switching to Linux or OSX is probably about the same as learning how to lock down Windows to make it secure and keeping it maintained.

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lder

New OS by google gooOs

I was going to call it "GooOS, the Google Operating System"

and Google office

Sun and Google tool

around together (4 October 2005) Google - the new Microsoft?

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EtherealRemnant
I care about one thing and one thing only: What about NVIDIA/ATI drivers??? Are they any more usuable with this release?

 

Thanks.

 

 

My ATI Radeon 9800 Pro was supported out of the box for QE and CI... Its buggy though but at least it works this time.

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CG5Addict
In recent history, Apple hardware has been a least one generation behind on graphics technology and to the extent that Macs are not for gamers, they have gottten away with cutting corners there.

 

What the hell are you smoking?? One step behind?? There is a differnce between Apple choosing open GL (which is better) for which windows does not. Manufactors make hardware and software for a platform that sells, right now that is the PC(windows) market. So for other compays spending time and money on making optimizied hardware and software for Macs, for gaming is not profitable for them. That's all. When it comes to graphics technology, Apple is ahead of the game.

 

Get it right, when it comes to pictures, 3-D, graphics, and movies Apple is the first platform of choice.

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anarkhos

Dear Editors:

Please stop trying to antagonize Apple with your childish scorekeeping. What purpose does it serve to have a chip on your shoulder, egging Steve to knock it off?

 

Just give us the news without your neener neener I see your peener cheerleading.

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Swad

anarkhos-

 

Thanks for your comments. As you know, we don't "keep score," but it was worth noting that the hackers were keeping up with Apple.

 

Thanks for your suggestions, though!

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bofors
What the hell are you smoking?? One step behind?? There is a differnce between Apple choosing open GL (which is better) for which windows does not. Manufactors make hardware and software for a platform that sells, right now that is the PC(windows) market. So for other compays spending time and money on making optimizied hardware and software for Macs, for gaming is not profitable for them. That's all. When it comes to graphics technology, Apple is ahead of the game.

 

Get it right, when it comes to pictures, 3-D, graphics, and movies Apple is the first platform of choice.

 

 

Oh please... STFU N00B.

 

You have almost no idea what you are talking about, yet are making some very pissy statements, so do not expect me to waste much of my time educating you here.

 

To make this really simple, to get the lastest and greatest versions of ATI and NVidia cards for a Macintosh, we have had wait at least six months after they have been introduced to the PC market.

 

Until a few weeks a go, when Apple updated the PowerMac line to the 970MP and began offering the NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500, a true professional grade card was not even available for Macintosh.

 

Then of course, despite the fact Mac's just got PCIe, again notice we are talking about lag of about year or so here, we of course can not run two cards like ATI's Crossfire or NVidia's SLI.

 

Next we could consider that Apple was shipping the weeny NVidia Geforce 5200 as the basic card in most of the line, even including PowerMacs, until quite recently.

 

I am not going to bother saying anything about the numerous software issues here until you learn to do your f***ing homework before you open your cornhole.

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joblack
Anyways, I have followed Maxxuss instructions but after I burn the patched DVD, I get that screen that says "You need to restart your computer" in like 15 langauges with the big whte power symbol in the background. Can any shed some light onto any problems or has anyone made a guide for this yet.

 

Sorry just checked at win2osx and found some relevant stuff.

 

has somebody tried this new release. Please tell us about your experience ;).

 

Greetings

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