apowerr Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Microsoft released Windows Vista SP1 to their download center today and claim that it should appear through Windows Update shortly. x86 (standalone download) x64 (standalone download) I use Vista for gaming, so I'm honestly pretty excited about this being out. No more '300 years remaining' when I throw things onto the mybook through Windows Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 This RTM build was available to OEM partner (free registration) a while back. I have it and Vista seems faster and more stabilized, the update takes a REALLY long time but its worth it Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-672812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forceman Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Yer thats the thing after SP's in Windows, it always "seems" better. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-672824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 does it help FPS at all? That is all I care about at this point. If not, XP SP2 is still fine. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-672931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headrush69 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 does it help FPS at all? That is all I care about at this point. If not, XP SP2 is still fine. Definitely feels faster here, but it still pales in comparison to OS X. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-672934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muitommy Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 i have seen some tests in magazines, the result was no improvement in fps games at ALL. There 're some improvements in the aero's theme performance indeed, but such indistinguishable improvements. don't really matters a bit... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-673312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headrush69 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 i have seen some tests in magazines, the result was no improvement in fps games at ALL.There 're some improvements in the aero's theme performance indeed, but such indistinguishable improvements. don't really matters a bit... The Aero improvements were quite dramatic for me. Still can't stand Vista, but I'll I'll keep it around since UT3 for OS X is dragging on due to politics/licensing issues. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-674102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 I find Vista quite usable, it certainly used up more RAM that I would have expected, probably going to upgrade to 4GB or 8GB soon. Like Headrush, Aero seems much faster, and for me bootup is also much faster. If you have Vista and plan on keeping it, SP1 is worth installing. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-674127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scj312 Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 SP1 benchmarks are all bull since that's not what SP1 fixes, it fixes responsiveness. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-674250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 SP1 benchmarks are all bull since that's not what SP1 fixes, it fixes responsiveness. Did you read that review that said Vista SP1 was 86% faster than original Vista in some file transfer processes? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-674257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headrush69 Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Did you read that review that said Vista SP1 was 86% faster than original Vista in some file transfer processes? Yes but I have to ask why the hell does Windows download files to a temporary location and once download is complete copy the file to your chosen download location? This always bothered me about Windows and I've never really heard a believable answer as to why it does this instead of a simple move. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-674277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Yes but I have to ask why the hell does Windows download files to a temporary location and once download is complete copy the file to your chosen download location? This always bothered me about Windows and I've never really heard a believable answer as to why it does this instead of a simple move. Have to agree with you on that one, the Temp folder becomes a monster Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-674280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caenis Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 i think meowy hit it on the rail... sp1 for vista is primarily meant to help in the major flaws of vista and terrible response to many chores, i think fps was not the major priority (unlike for some of us). and yes, a many of those problems might have be resolved but i believe that mountain is the K2 and redmond shouldn't stop until on the "other" side of the mountain. I too find vista pretty usable and all my drivers are vista x86 and x64 compliant other that my MICROSOFT fingerprint reader (no x64). but every morning i see myself starting up mac os x more and more Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-674357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Vista SP1 did not install on my Dell Lappy Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-674359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmdshft Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I just installed SP1 today on two of our Vista Business machines, and I noticed Aero responded much more efficiently than before. File transfer across out network increased by about 50%, which was fantastic. I am really impressed by Microsoft on this one. They didn't pull any punches in fixing Vista, and my hat goes off to them. I hope they keep this up from now on, and that Windows 7 doesn't face the same shortcoming's as ista did. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-674377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Why Vista SP1 does not appear in my Windows Update? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-674419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 macgirl, You can download the standalone updater packages from the links erei33 posted. It may not be showing up in Windows Update because SP1 requires 3 updates to be installed as a prerequisite. So if you insist on using Windows Update, install all the updates that are there at the moment and then SP1 should show up as well:) Hope this helps Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-674424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
muitommy Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Regard to the dramatic change of copying files between two different locations, can be network .. that's due to the vista's default setting to check the difference of two locations before copying, your copy speed will sure to be improved a lot if that options is switched off .. what the hell do we need that functions if we're copying file locally .... do anyone remember there's a program that allow windows make use of full cache of hardisk as to improve disk copying performance ? that one is fantastic ..! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-674452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 macgirl, You can download the standalone updater packages from the links erei33 posted. It may not be showing up in Windows Update because SP1 requires 3 updates to be installed as a prerequisite. So if you insist on using Windows Update, install all the updates that are there at the moment and then SP1 should show up as well:) Hope this helps thanks ~pcwiz, I did try the standalone before trying windows update, but it reported that the SP cound't be installed, searching for reason I found this: SP1 cant be installed or listed on Windows Update if you have: Audio drivers - - Realtek AC'97 - - - •For x86-based computers: Alcxwdm.sys - version 6.0.1.6242 or earlier - - - •For x64-based computers: Alcwdm64.sys - version 6.0.1.6242 or earlier - - SigmaTel - - - •For x86-based computers: Sthda.sys - version 5.10.5762.0 or earlier - - - •For x64-based computers: Sthda64.sys - version 5.10.5762.0 or earlier - - SigmaTel - - - •For x86-based computers: Stwrt.sys - version 6.10.5511.0 or earlier - - - •For x64-based computers: Stwrt64.sys - version 6.10.5511.0 or earlier - - Creative Audigy - - - •For x86-based and x64-based computers: Ctaud2k.sys - version 6.0.1.1242 or earlier - - - •For x86-based computers: P17.sys – all versions (This was originally a Windows XP-based driver.) - - Conexant HD Audio - - - •For x86-based computers: Chdart.sys - version 4.32.0.0 or earlier - - - •For x64-based computers: Chdart64.sys - version 4.32.0.0 or earlier Biometric (Fingerprint) Sensors - - - •AuthenTec Fingerprint Sensor with the Atswpdrv.sys driver file – version 7.7.1.7 or earlier - - - •UPEK Fingerprint Sensor with the Tcusb.sys driver file –version 1.9.2.99 or earlier Display drivers - - Intel... I checked my Sigmatel, and I have higher drivers, but no for the Upek finger scanner more on: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=948343 EDIT: I could update the Finger Scanner driver, SP1 did not appear even after reboot, I tried again the standalone without success but then it appeared in the windows update as 65 MB, ran it but again it failed. Damn SP1 is awfully slow, see, I posted the first part of the message at 11:32 then 3 hours later 2 failed installs of SP1, sheesh Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-674563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Have you checked this out: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947366 Try everything it says on there. And try updating ALL your drivers. Meaning install EVERYTHING that Windows Update lists there. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-675224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac.nub Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Installed it on a family friend's computer earlier today... my goodness it takes a while to install, even on modern PCs. It was a ~66MB download and took a good 45-60mins to install. I think MS need to take a leaf out of Apple's book with update install times... ~mac.nub Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-675601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forceman Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I should imagine there is alot of low level stuff in SP1, the install time shows and shows how buggy Vista is. General updates take a while sometimes never mind a service pack. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-675618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 So far everything post installation is great. Aero windows respond more quickly, most notably when pressing win-key+ e. File transfering is a lot faster. I used to get a bug with digital cameras and such when I was copying that would say 'the source file has changed' or something to that effect, this bug is fixed too. Hats off to Microsoft, they've done a good job. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-675845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Have you checked this out: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947366 Try everything it says on there. And try updating ALL your drivers. Meaning install EVERYTHING that Windows Update lists there. Been there done that. Well SP1 is the only update listed on WindowsUpdate. I will try a separate new install without those "conflicting" drivers and see what happens if I run the installer Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-675897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superhai Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 I can just confirm MacGirl, on my Dell XPS M1330 it fails to update. Both from WU and standalone. For every reinstall it does find another new update to install, but still fails. Maybe after 15 reinstalls it will succeed :/ I will uninstall all drivers. This is very bad move from MS. I can just imagine how it will be for all unexperienced folks around. And all corporations who have automatic update to on. Because the update does take 30-40 minutes for the automatic install and uninstall. And there is no sensible log stating why it fails. Not that I have found. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/94372-vista-service-pack-1-released/#findComment-676265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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