Maxintosh Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Here is what PC Magazine says about OS X 10.5.2: "After three months with Apple's Mac OS X Leopard Version 10.5, I have three main things to say about it. First: Despite minor problems, it's by far the best operating system ever written for the vast majority of consumers, with dozens of new features that have real practical value—like truly automated backups, document and spreadsheet preview images in folders, and notes and to-do lists integrated into the mail program," "For the average user, Leopard is the most polished and easiest to use OS I've tested. Second: Leopard started out with a generous share of first-version glitches, but almost all of them have now been resolved by the second of two automated updates, which brings Leopard up to version 10.5.2". "Leopard again raises the question of whether to switch from Windows to a Mac. I've found Vista to be a major disappointment that tends to look worse the more I use it. I still use Windows XP for getting serious work done in long, complicated documents. But OS X is easier to manage and maintain and I vastly prefer OS X to Windows for Web-browsing, mail, and especially for any task that involves graphics, music, or video" "Leopard performs all such tasks even better than previous versions did—and Leopard is the only OS on the planet that works effortlessly and intuitively in today's world of networked computers and peripherals. Leopard is far from perfect, but it's better than any alternative, and it's getting harder and harder to find good reasons to use anything else" Well, at least they're honest Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 No offense, but you left out all the not so good things that were said in the article: After living with Leopard for a while, I was slightly disappointed to find that Spaces doesn't work smoothly with all applications—with Microsoft Office as the most serious exception With the initial release, however, I (like many other users) encountered persistent flakiness when trying to network with Windows machines. Leopard sometimes didn't see my Windows machines until I logged out and in again, and then would instantly connect to one Windows machine but report "Connection failed" with another, and I needed to restart the Mac before networking sorted itself out again. With the 10.5.2 update these problems are drastically reduced, although not entirely solved As I soon discovered, Time Machine gets sluggish when backing up large-sized files that change often—which means that it doesn't work well with the large database-style message stores used by Microsoft Entourage For example, one of the new features in iChat lets you use custom backgrounds in video chats, so you seem to be setting in front of the Eiffel Tower or the surface of the moon. This effect works perfectly when someone demonstrates it in the Apple Store, but may not work as well at home. The wall behind me when I sit at my desk is filled with books, and the mix of colors on the shelves left iChat totally confused when it tried to mask the bookshelf, with the result that random blank rectangles appeared across my face. I didn't appreciate what this did to my looks. The update doesn't fix this problem, and it may take a few more years of technological advances to get it right. Among other minor glitches, the Cover Flow and thumbnail-preview feature was surprisingly clumsy when listing files on Windows machines, because it didn't recognize many standard file types. For example, Leopard identified both a Windows Address Book export file and a Word 2003 backup file as "Unix executable files" and displayed a generic Unix-file icon for each. This didn't do any harm—and the problem is almost entirely fixed by the 10.5.2 update—but it didn't inspire confidence in Apple's testing procedures. Another, temporary, glitch occurred when Leopard simply stopped showing thumbnail images for newly-created files, and simply showed generic icons instead. Regarding my third point—Leopard's excess eye-candy—your opinion may differ from mine, but I think it is just little too much flash. Apple seems to load OS X with graphics effects for the same reason it ships its computers with the screens set to maximum brightness—because it's easier to sell bright-looking objects. Back at home, the excess brightness gives me a headache, and the glut of graphic effects are distracting when I'm trying to get anything done. I found Leopard's new reflecting-glass 3D Dock fun to look at for five minutes, but Leopard didn't offer me the option to get a less distracting no-glass 2D dock—unless I moved the dock to the side of the screen, where it automatically switched to the more sober 2D display. There's a similar 3-D reflective effect in the Finder's Cover Flow preview display. Apple insists that this doesn't affect performance, and, as far as I can tell, Apple seems to be right. None the less, I would prefer to turn off the distracting mirror-images that appear on the "shelf" below preview images, but there doesn't seem to be any way to achieve this—at least not yet. Most of the article praised Leopard, but I'm not trying to be a Windows fan or anything and I'm not saying Leopard is bad either because it seems to be excellent, I'm just saying that you have to look at both sides Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-640188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant0ne Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Just like everyone else I'm sure, I still use XP regularly for games... I use Leo for everything else though Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-640189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 And they're right. After using 10.5.2, it's hard to go back to anything. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-640197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headrush69 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I'm just saying that you have to look at both sides Why? Regarding my third point—Leopard's excess eye-candy When I first saw the GUI changes coming to Leopard I thought the same thing. After using it for some time can't say I even notice the Dock changes anymore. (Which was my biggest beef) Having run Vista now for a few months I can say I think OS X is pretty neutered compared to eye-candy introduced in Vista and hence XP has replaced it. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-640199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~pcwiz Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Because, rumor has it that if you start thinking about only how awesome your OS X is and nothing else, Steve Jobs will come down and change your insides to Mac hardware It seems to have happened to Maxintosh already, because his posts sound like AppleScripts. jk jk Sorry I know that was random Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-640203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(MoC) Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 And they're right. After using 10.5.2, it's hard to go back to anything. OS X for that matter Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-640204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I like Vista and all, but I do gotta say good call on this one. 10.5 did have it's troubles in the beginning, but any OS does. And Apple fixed most of them FAST. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-640266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macmaniac Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 10.5.2 is an awesome update. I couldn't be happier. 10.5.2 runs extremely well on my hack(s). Very smooth. Quick. Stable. The hackintosh experience was always a little substandard to the real thing. But not now. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-640408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxintosh Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 I'm just saying that you have to look at both sides Yes I agree, but we weren't trying to post the entire article here. That's what the link was for BTW- is it just me or do other people notice that more and more top ranking PC people are starting to praise OS X and jump ship on vista. I've read several other windows magazine articles today that almost sounded like they were written by Steve Jobs I'm not complaining, and I'm glad they are waking up as that's how things get fixed, but I do find their honesty surprisingly refreshing Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-640506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 10.5.2 would be close to perfect if they would BRING BACK THE TRANSLUCENT MENUS, Jesus wept.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-640623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(MoC) Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I'm still at 10.5.1 so Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-641463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal swimmer Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 10.5.2 would be close to perfect if they would BRING BACK THE TRANSLUCENT MENUS, Jesus wept.... ....at you stupidity. seriously, i did too. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-641688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 10.5.2 would be close to perfect if they would BRING BACK THE TRANSLUCENT MENUS, Jesus wept.... I concur. It is illogical to have a transparent menu bar, but opaque menus. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-641714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxintosh Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 It seems to have happened to Maxintosh already, because his posts sound like AppleScripts. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-641848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 PC Mag says 10.5.2 BEST OS on the planet!Of course we know this already Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-642137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedfreaK Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 i use 10.5.2 and it's the best os i ever used!! but i think it's still a bit less stable than tiger. but i'm sure new updates will make leopard even more stable and i have transluctend menus in 10.5.2, i don't understand why a lot of people don't have them :s Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-642200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Then there were none. Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 whats a translucent menu, im using 10.5.2 on my imac core duo, it doesent seem to be as stable as tiger tbh. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-642310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatshitcat Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 The original translucent menus are not the best choice usability wise and can be found confusing by many. 10.5.2 has translucent menus also, but they are more opaque now, just perfect. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-642484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 The new ones are fine with the opaque menu bar, but they look jarring and out of place with the transparent one. Also on my primary monitor it is very difficult to perceive any transparency at all. It would have made far more sense to tie the translucency to that of the menu bar. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-642494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedfreaK Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 now i take a closer look, the menu bars are indeed less transluctend. i liked the more transluctend more! want to have them back or at least a choice to set the transparency Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-642840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 i use 10.5.2 and it's the best os i ever used!!but i think it's still a bit less stable than tiger. but i'm sure new updates will make leopard even more stable and i have transluctend menus in 10.5.2, i don't understand why a lot of people don't have them :s Because they don't read, they just whine at everything. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-642894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbetts Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 ....at you stupidity.seriously, i did too. No need to insult now. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-643205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabotron Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Why? Smart consuming? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/89756-pc-mag-says-1052-best-os-on-the-planet/#findComment-643230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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