iMags Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 It has not been confirmed yet, but I believe the iPhone has a SIM lock that prevents you to use SIM-cards from other carriers than AT&T. I'm pasting from Wikipedia: "AT&T Wireless, never unlock handsets, even after a customer has fulfilled their service contract.[citation needed] Other providers, for example T-Mobile and more recently Cingular will unlock phones if the customer has an active account in good standing for at least 90 days." That means that we have to unlock our iPhones ourselves. And I'm guessing that many people wants to unlock their iPhone, and that is legal, right? The reason why I made this topic is for iPhone owners to share their progress in unlocking iPhone. (...and for me, in Norway, to get a chance to buy a unlocked version from eBay. I'm willing to pay over 800 USD for a unlocked 8GB version of iPhone.) So.. How do we start? (First, the iPhone has to be released, but it's good to be prepared.) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac-mini Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 actually this is cingular but they just changed their name to AT&T Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-396193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMags Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 Here is something interesting, though... kind of... This is from the iPhone FAQ at Apple.com: Not a very suprising quote, but maybe Apple mean that you CAN use a SIM card from other carriers, but you SHOULD use the one that came peinstalled because then you get Visual Voicemail. (because Steve Jobs said that Visual Voicemail is an innovation that required both Cingular/AT&T and Apple to do, or something...) ...or am I just going crazy here, waiting for an iPhone to come to Norway? (it should be in Europe HOPEFULLY by Q4 of 2007, Steve Jobs said. And that is why I hope I can by an unlocked version soon.) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-396236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stegve Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 You're not the only one. I'm still waiting for some good news about the iPhone in europe. Right now i can't wait another five or six months and so i'd really like to buy from U.S. I don't care about the localization, we just try to understand if it is possible to change the AT&T sim card with another one ( not phisically of course ). I'm italian and i have a vodafone sim card, i hope we'll get some good news as soon as possible.. Stay tuned Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-397188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moid Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 According people first analyzing the tech specs, the chip is incorporated (U.S. at least), and the battery is not replaceable unless you take it to Apple (kinda like the iPod. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-397224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMags Posted June 29, 2007 Author Share Posted June 29, 2007 I read this: http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/29/3g-ipho...nounced-monday/ Sure 3G is good, but I'm more conserned about EVER getting one. If that europe-iPhone-rumor is true, it will NEVER get to Norway, because we don't have Vodafone or T-Mobile here. I'm about to kill myself Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-397538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownnose The Pirate Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 I read this: http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/29/3g-ipho...nounced-monday/Sure 3G is good, but I'm more conserned about EVER getting one. If that europe-iPhone-rumor is true, it will NEVER get to Norway, because we don't have Vodafone or T-Mobile here. I'm about to kill myself you better hope someone unlocks it then, although i highly doubt that theyll go 3g for europe because theyll just produce one standard iphone, it would be dumb to sell 2 gen 1 products with one being better than the other. it wouldnt work out buisness wise. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-397554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMags Posted June 30, 2007 Author Share Posted June 30, 2007 So.. Now that people have that sweet iPhone candy bar, please try to ... erhm... unlock it.. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-398032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khuat Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 From the time of this posting, some sites started offering Unlocking solutions for iPhone. And, if what they claim is true, we'll be seeing unlocked iPhones anytime soon... 1. This website requests your e-mail for elegibility of unlock your iphone via Imei unlock code they decipher... 2. This other website will be selling unlocked iPhones that work with most of the US and Canadian carriers. EDIT: Second site offered the unlocked iPhone back in March, so i doubt this one is true. Rgds. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-398854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_muad_dib Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 lol, just some sites to steal an email.. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-398856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
!MP Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 here is iPhone Unlock Contest Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-398899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanzoh Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 For everyone interested in helping hacking the iPhone, come and visit the Wiki at http://www.hissomnia.com/wiki/ and of course join the IRC channel! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-398996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minko Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Sounds like a bunch of people are working to unlock this baby! As soon as it's possible to unlock, I will buy one.. Can't wait till they ship iPhone to europe.. Damn Apple Inc.!!! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-399144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iMags Posted July 1, 2007 Author Share Posted July 1, 2007 Do not "damn" Apple Inc! DAMN AT&T! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-399154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxp Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 but some functions will only work with the special carrier. and having an iphone without a special carrier makes no sense. think of not having a web flatrate... using iphone could then be very expensive. one problem could also be how that thing works together with the carrier...... but i wouldn't buy one yet. according to what i have read, they do have the feature of "scratching" very easy. same thing with my 1gen ipod nano, pesky little bagger got scratches all around Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-399235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhsh8r Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Do not "damn" Apple Inc!DAMN AT&T! damn apple. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-399278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
errandwolfe Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 What would be nice is to be able to use one of these with NO service. What if I don't need a cell phone, but just want one SWEET PDA. This thing has built in wifi. Built in bluetooth. Camera. This would be an amazing product WITHOUT the cell at all. Imagine then even writing on a Skype app. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-399293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukrous Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 maybe Apple mean that you CAN use a SIM card from other carriers, but you SHOULD use the one that came peinstalled because then you get Visual Voicemail. The iPhone will take any AT&T SIM card, but will reject any other vendors' SIM cards. The quote simply means don't pick at the SIM slot cause it's just easier to leave the preinstalled SIM in. It won't read contacts or other info from the SIM, so there's really no use to swapping it out with another. The iPhone cannot be used without activation through iTunes. Until you activated it, you were stuck staring at a pretty picture of the Earth and a slider that read "Slide for emergency call". It's why when the activation system was bogged down people were really pissed off. Unlocking seems difficult...there doesn't seem to be any diagnostic menu, which means sense considering how it integrates with a computer. I would think an unlocking program would be more feasible that finding some switch on the phone itself. Of course, the release of the phone's firmware will probably help towards finding the bits needed to unlock it, if it's even part of the code. In truth, I would not surprised if there is no unlocked mode at all coded into the phone. It's not like OS X works outside of Macs without a lot of custom code, right? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-399315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minko Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 First of all, I damn Apple because of thier one carrier strategy. Because of that we have to wait in europe till Q4, and get an "older" Product in the end. 3G will not be included, i think, don't make any sense to upgrade a product for an other market.. What I really can't understand is that Apple will make money with the contracts from AT&T, and close every opportunity for other costumers that have an other carrier and can't change it. I hope that someone will be able to unlock it. Services?! I don't care about this mailbox service that will only work with AT&T.. The other services should work.. Now, that's it. Update: http://hissomnia.com/wiki/index.php?title=Break_Activation Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-399715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukrous Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 New tip I've seen around...if you enter your social security number as 999-99-9999 (recommended by an AT&T rep to a TUAW blogger) then your account will go into pre-paid mode and bypass the contract completely. it'll activate the phone for all features except voice and internet until you pay into your account. While this isn't exactly unlocking the phone, it is activating it without a contract and will let you know the non-phone/internet features of the phone. FYI...if you have WiFi, EDGE is not needed, so it's possible to use the internet features if you're near a WiFi network. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-399826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minko Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Sounds good but id like to make calls too Lets see was the future brings.. UPDATE: It seems like the big part is done and it will be working unlocked soon!! http://hissomnia.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-399856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathChill Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 they're under heavy load, so what did they say? As long as it wasn't the news that they think they might know how it works... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-399897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
minko Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Quote: 2 July 2007 8:27AM Eastern update We know how unlocking of the phone occurs with a reasonable degree of confidence. We cannot yet trigger this unlocking or verify whether we are right but speaking for myself, i'm pretty sure I know how to do it and that the phone has the capability from some things i've seen in the firmware so far. The real question is, once we unlock the phone, will iTunes detect the unlocking and flip out. I can't answer this yet. I think anyone claiming to sell you an unlocked phone right now is just tripe. I think we are farther along than anyone. I wouldn't buy an unlocked phone for any more than $599 if I were you until you have more updates from us. There is a lot of focus around attacking either the DMG itself (using iTunes gdb) or the activation process with a patch. We have been relatively successful in knowing how the phone "gets" activated and what exactly the phone has on it that tells it it's activated. This is great news. We know there are three "modes" that occur during restore - Boot-DFU-iPhone SW. We are working on compromising all of these modes simultaneously. We definitely have a great idea and even some empirical data showing how the process occurs, from "hey I want to restore this" to how the software gets onto the phone. We really, really, really, really need someone who knows Ruby and Ruby's DL::Import functionality. If you can help with this, contact gj! No halfsteppin'. --gj Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-399918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
santfekuss Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Following this thread closely, I live in the UK but I'm going to Orlando mid-august.There's 9 AT&T stores in the area so will be buying an iPhone to 'hopefully' use in the UK. One idea I've had is, when you manage to unlock it, some forums are saying it could be locked again via iTunes. Could we just not transfer music via bluetooth ?? A lot slower I know, but saves connecting it to iTunes. Good luck guys...... :-) Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-400940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassJAw Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Does any other carrier have the infrastructure of AT&T when it comes to internet over the phone? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/55401-unlocking-iphone/#findComment-401444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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