A Nonny Moose Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Apple's marketshare is somewhere around 6% of the total computer using population. Now in terms of hardware manufacturers, the rankings are currently: 1. Dell 2. HP 3. Gateway 4. APPLE 5. Toshiba So right now Apple is the #4 computer manufacturer in hardware land and it's continuing to grow. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollcage Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 nice. people are starting to catch on to how good macs really are and how great osx is. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-213344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orea Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Yay! some bloke/woman has reconised that mac's are better! but i dont think that dell are good for making desktop pc's! weve had 6 break out of 10 @ school, i think hp are v.good at making laptops, mines been going for 3 years solid without a reinstall of windows! Dells are really only good at making servers for small business, and there blades for big business! BaYlisS Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-213352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearcat Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 I totally agree that this is nice, but the link is a bit misleading. That ranking relates to US PC market. Worldwide Apple did not make the top 5. http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2158 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-213353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav1085 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 I can't belive that "Gateway" is even on the list. I haven't seen many "Gateway" computers anywhere. I thought their company died in the 90's. Otherwise, I see that Dell will remain on the top for awhile, unless Apple lowers their price. I'm talking about college students and people on a tight budget, a Dell Desktop great for basic tasks is $400 with monitor, keyboard, and mouse including some crappy trial software, while a Mac mini is $600 without a monitor (Apple's cheapest monitor is $700). I'm talking canadian prices here. PCs are made by Dell, Gateway, HP, Sony and many companies but Mac is a Apple only product. So they can have higher prices as they don't compete with other Mac makers. But PCs do, and they make them cheaper and cheaper to compete with the other companies. Of course, if Dell did start making Macs then they would come down in price, although I can't see Apple competing over Dell for the same machines. Macs are more expensive (the way I see it) is because they are all ready to go. a $1100 iMac Intel CD2 gives you the complete package, escpecially a good graphics card for playing the latest games, and a 17" flatscreen. The cheapest PC doesn't have all the built in stuff needed for games as Windows XP doesn't use all the fancy graphics and OpenGL. But, when Windows Vista goes retail, it has more 3D graphics and cool effects that you can't just throw in a Intel Extreme Graphics card, you'll need a good ATI or nVidia card to use those, which will allow low end PCs to run better games. I really can see graphics card going down in price quite a bit with Vista, as a ATI Radeon x1600 will be a standard PC graphics card, not those crappy Intel onboard video cards. I was thinking at first that Dell PCs will be a little more expensive with the release of Vista, but eventually they will go down when graphics card go down. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-213520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregano Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 yeah i agree with travis1085 the reason apple is so low (6% isnt much) is because of the high costs plenty of people want macs, but just dont have them i mean, a mac book is $1500! a dell inspiron laptop is just $489 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-213548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhsh8r Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Apple's marketshare is somewhere around 6% of the total computer using population. Now in terms of hardware manufacturers, the rankings are currently: 1. Dell 2. HP 3. Gateway 4. APPLE 5. Toshiba So right now Apple is the #4 computer manufacturer in hardware land and it's continuing to grow. Hp just moved in to first place and gained 1% market share whial some of the other bigones lost some just had to do an applied economics current event on it.... and apple is more than Toshiba"???? i would have never guessed it..... but after considering it it is quite beleaveable. max Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-213560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bptba93 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 I really like Gateway,Hp,Toshiba,and Apple they are all good companies except for Dell. My mom has an old hp pavilion 6640c and its never had a problem. I have a Toshiba laptop and it's withstood some time. My sister has a Powerbook G4 and loves it. My dad has a Gateway and I wish I had it because it would fully support os x. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-213568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Nonny Moose Posted October 21, 2006 Author Share Posted October 21, 2006 Otherwise, I see that Dell will remain on the top for awhile, unless Apple lowers their price. I'm talking about college students and people on a tight budget, a Dell Desktop great for basic tasks is $400 with monitor, keyboard, and mouse including some crappy trial software, while a Mac mini is $600 without a monitor (Apple's cheapest monitor is $700). I'm talking canadian prices here. PCs are made by Dell, Gateway, HP, Sony and many companies but Mac is a Apple only product. So they can have higher prices as they don't compete with other Mac makers. But PCs do, and they make them cheaper and cheaper to compete with the other companies. First off, Macs are more expensive was BUSTED. Secondly, the reason why Dell has $50 computers is because they use the cheapest parts possible in their $50 boxes. Those same boxes run like {censored}. Now I'm sure Apple could make a $50 Mac box that used a Celery processor and other substandard parts, but it would run like...well, like a $50 Dell box. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-213606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantalaimon Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 This is only US D: Beside, Apple prices are also priced by the design and the Apple logo in the front... Apple pays its designer... It's just like a car... The prettiest ones are the most expensive one xD And Mac arent more expensive like the guy above said, built a PC with the same components that a mac and will be the same ... D: Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-213617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trav1085 Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 First off, Macs are more expensive was BUSTED. Dell Dimension E521 (Cheapest Dell Desktop) Mac Mini without Monitor (Cheapest Mac Desktop) What is cheaper? PCs are less than a Mac. Secondly, the reason why Dell has $50 computers is because they use the cheapest parts possible in their $50 boxes. Those same boxes run like {censored}. Now I'm sure Apple could make a $50 Mac box that used a Celery processor and other substandard parts, but it would run like...well, like a $50 Dell box. I think you mean $500. I already said that, I said that Macs are more because they are all ready to run the latest games and best graphics. Dells don't have the graphics card to run the latest games. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-213640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostgame Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 I can't belive that "Gateway" is even on the list. I haven't seen many "Gateway" computers anywhere. I thought their company died in the 90's. XDDDDDD *wipes tears from eyes* That, my friend, was what we call "classic." Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-213817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Nonny Moose Posted October 21, 2006 Author Share Posted October 21, 2006 Dell Dimension E521 (Cheapest Dell Desktop) Mac Mini without Monitor (Cheapest Mac Desktop) What is cheaper? PCs are less than a Mac. Wow, thanks for not following the link and seeing how comparably equipped cheap ass systems make the Dell slightly more expensive than the Mac mini. You're just sooooooooooo smart... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-213879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregano Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 i know gateways are still around, but i didnt think they held that much of the market share (definately not more than apple) but u have to give trav1085 some credit, becuase its true that gateway hasnt come out with any really nice computers lately that can compete in todays market Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-213936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_4e Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 It is really something to think, what Apple computer sales would like today without the invention of the iPod. The iPod allowed people to realize that Apple can also really create a great product. I'd have to say that's one reason why I ever considered buying a Mac. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-213962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedragon1971 Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 Dell Dimension E521 (Cheapest Dell Desktop) Mac Mini without Monitor (Cheapest Mac Desktop) What is cheaper? PCs are less than a Mac. Assuming you are referring to the $499 basic E521, then you aren't even close on comparing it to a Mac Mini, since the E521 only has a single core Semperon processor, not the dual-core X2 processor in the other models which is closer to the Core Duo in the Mac mini. That alone accounts for the price difference, not to mention the physical size difference between the machines. i know gateways are still around, but i didnt think they held that much of the market share (definately not more than apple)but u have to give trav1085 some credit, becuase its true that gateway hasnt come out with any really nice computers lately that can compete in todays market Good lord, go into Best Buy, half of the machines they sell are either Gateway or eMachines (which is owned by Gateway, and figures into their market share, just as HP and Compaq are lumped together). What planet are you people living on saying that Gateway doesn't have any nice computers? They have some very nice machines from what I've seen. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-214175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregano Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 well, i have an ipod (of course), but i can still run itunes on my xp (of course) so although the ipod might have generated a lot of profit for apple, its unlikely that it had a great effect on their computer sales when i buy a mac, it won't have anything to do with ipods Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-214525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takuro Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 If Apple gets 10% market share, don't they have to release OS X for generic PCs? When you get to be a big-time manufacturer, you also are susceptible to the rules against monopolization. If you hold a sizable share and demand that people buy your computer to run your operating system, it is seen as an attempt to control the market. This doesn't affect Apple currently because they aren't seen as a major threat and hold less than a 10% national share. And about Gateway: I know they've lost tons of sales. I guess that means at one time they held 70% of the market or something. It's insane that they still hold onto what they have. Their PCs are notoriously overpriced and tend to have a lot of problems. Maybe they've fixed that. I'm not sure. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-214543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregano Posted October 22, 2006 Share Posted October 22, 2006 well ive always thought it was weird that there were pcs, and then apples like, y cant u just buy osx for pc? and y cant u just get windows for an apple computer? its just weird how they, agreeing with takuro, monopolize, the market thats probably y there share is so low Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/30776-were-4/#findComment-214556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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