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[SA22C]

I've got the following system:

Asus P5K-E
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 (OC to 2.94 GHz)
5 GB OCZ Gold DDR2 800 MHz
8800 GT 512 MB (flashed with mac 8800 GT Rom)

I've got Snow Leopard up and running with the standard DSDT generated by the patcher and the following kexts:
ADI1988b (enables sound)
fakesmc (newest version)
JMicronATA
NullCPUPowerManagement
OpenHaltRestart
PlatformUUID
SleepEnabler
VoodooPower

Everything is running smoothly in either 64 or 32 bit (I'm in 32 bit presently because there is no Voodoo Power kext for 64 bit as of yet.)  The problem is that my open GL performance is less than half of what I see in Leopard (According to XBench, anyhow.  OpenMark shows a 15 percent drop.)  Anyone else seeing poor nVidia performance in Snow Leo?

[curlyboy]

SA22C, on Aug 24 2009, 03:01 PM, said:

I've got the following system:

Asus P5K-E
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 (OC to 2.94 GHz)
5 GB OCZ Gold DDR2 800 MHz
8800 GT 512 MB (flashed with mac 8800 GT Rom)

I've got Snow Leopard up and running with the standard DSDT generated by the patcher and the following kexts:
ADI1988b (enables sound)
fakesmc (newest version)
JMicronATA
NullCPUPowerManagement
OpenHaltRestart
PlatformUUID
SleepEnabler
VoodooPower

Everything is running smoothly in either 64 or 32 bit (I'm in 32 bit presently because there is no Voodoo Power kext for 64 bit as of yet.)  The problem is that my open GL performance is less than half of what I see in Leopard (According to XBench, anyhow.  OpenMark shows a 15 percent drop.)  Anyone else seeing poor nVidia performance in Snow Leo?

Yes opengl spinnig squares score with xbench is  kinda slow  88  i get  and in leopard 180+  , but the system runs sweet

[hchinasky]

Same here with 9300m gs. Font rendering is much better in leopard. I don´t see fonts clear under snow leopard.
Do you see any difference in fonts too?

[SA22C]

hchinasky, on Aug 24 2009, 09:33 AM, said:

Same here with 9300m gs. Font rendering is much better in leopard. I don´t see fonts clear under snow leopard.
Do you see any difference in fonts too?

No, rendering in Snow looks great for me.  It's also worth noting that the system feels responsive and snappy, it's just not performing well in the benchmarks.  Since I don't game with OS X, it really doesn't matter in the end.

I'd bet that MacPro owners are seeing the same problem with their 8800GT's.

[zoltankr]

yes, the same issue.
GeForce 8500GT 512MB (Xbench OpenGL Leopard: 180 / Xbench OpenGL Snow Leopard: 80).

[curlyboy]

Rendering is just fine tho and the fonts looks ok , just the opengl test in xbench is 100 or so fps slower  lol to test it out i tried some off the osx scene demos  and all ran excellent so the slow opengl score doesnt seem to bad  overall

[zoltankr]

I think, xbench is too old. Try: http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/

[Cyberdog !]

Me too.
Test with GioFX OpenMark

Launch the benchmark from the OpenMark Menu
Waiting for the result after 9 FPS, open "OpenMark result.tga" file in the folder

  10.5.8  ± 26000  
  10.6     ± 14000  ?  

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[scorcho]

It's a problem with Snow Leopard, not your hacks. It seems as if OGL performance is mucked up, and CL is apparently spotty for ATI cards.

[`Black]

Same issue here (9600GT) and spaces is absolutely not smooth in SL. Hope Apple quickly releases updates...

[h4ck1nt05h]

I've noticed this as well (9800 GT). World of Warcraft performance is much worse than Leopard, and lines look much more jagged. No matter what I set the anti-aliasing on, it doesn't look like it's working.

There is definitely something wrong with OpenGL.

[blackosx]

I have just tried the OpenGL Extensions Viewer link that zoliky posted.
I loaded the app and used defaults settings and my SnowLeopard system posted higher scores than 10.5.8, apart from test 2.1. I am using an MSI 8800GT 512MB OC.


EDIT: I have just run the same test again but with time with 10.6.1. There is a slight improvement in some tests and a slight loss in others, so an average no real change.

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[Cyberdog !]

A second test please ?

Test with GioFX OpenMark

[blackosx]

Cyberdog !, on Aug 30 2009, 07:15 AM, said:

A second test please ?

Test with GioFX OpenMark

Yes I can try it but can you post the app as the download link doesn't work.
I have tried here, here  and here

[Cyberdog !]

this :

  http://www.macupdate.../15242/openmark

[zoltankr]

Cyberdog !, on Aug 30 2009, 10:26 AM, said:

this :

  http://www.macupdate.../15242/openmark

The download link is broken.

[mitch_de]

FORGET XBench & OpenMark benches for 10.6 + 10.5 on newer Intel "Macs" !!
Both are much to old and need to be updated. They are both very old  compiled with very old OS X frameworks / very old GCC 3.x (UB bot not good optimized Intel code). Now we have GCC 4.x !

Only use the new + very valide OpenGLExtensionsviewer for Tests .
To compare GPU speed differences between GPUs:
OPTIONS: full screen, benchmark, higher resulution (at least 1280x800, the more the better), 32 Bit and 4* Multisampling (FSAA)
gives:  high gpu load = gpu limits bench results =  less cpu+driver dependend bench results

To compare driver speed differences on same GPU:
OPTIONS: full screen, benchmark, lower resulution (less than 800x600), 32 Bit  no Multisamling
gives: less/moderate gpu load = CPU(drivers) + gpu limits bench results = much cpu+driver dependend benhc results

[jinnggoff]

yes thats right Mitch_de, I did a test with OpenglExtensionsviewer...
and the results are not  loss any performance in SL

[Cyberdog !]

mitch_de, on Aug 30 2009, 02:57 PM, said:

FORGET XBench & OpenMark benches for 10.6 + 10.5 on newer Intel "Macs" !!
Both are much to old and need to be updated. They are both very old  compiled with very old OS X frameworks / very old GCC 3.x (UB bot not good optimized Intel code). Now we have GCC 4.x !

Only use the new + very valide OpenGLExtensionsviewer for Tests .
To compare GPU speed differences between GPUs:
OPTIONS: full screen, benchmark, higher resulution (at least 1280x800, the more the better), 32 Bit and 4* Multisampling (FSAA)
gives:  high gpu load = gpu limits bench results =  less cpu+driver dependend bench results

To compare driver speed differences on same GPU:
OPTIONS: full screen, benchmark, lower resulution (less than 800x600), 32 Bit  no Multisamling
gives: less/moderate gpu load = CPU(drivers) + gpu limits bench results = much cpu+driver dependend benhc results

Thank you !!!

[`Black]

Did the OpenGLExtensionsviewer test with my 9600GT in 1920x1200 4xAA / 16xAF ... Scores are better in Leopard (GL 1.1 to 2.0 ~700fps in 10.5.8, ~600fps in SL, GL 2.1 is the same) but not much so the performance is ok. The slow spaces seems to be a problem with beamsync as I have only 10fps with beamsync, in leopard it's 50-60fps... without beamsync >100.