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R. Bear Helms
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Link broken.

 

Apple cannot afford to ship their system with Windows pre-loaded as the main/only OS. They have shipped systems with trial versions of Microsoft Office programs, and I believe still do.

 

Not even the "reality distortion field" surrounding Steve Jobs is so warped as to believe that in a toe-to-toe fighting contest, Apple would win over consumer dollars in the hundreds just because the system looks nicer!

 

They need to be different from PCs in a significant way - Mac OS X is that way. There's no problem EMULATING Windows on OS X, or even making or permitting some 3rd party (maybe even Microsoft) from making a commercial grade Darwine-like program for OS X.

 

But any pundit who thinks Apple may be trying to slide over to being yet another (but fancier) box than your typical Windows system is nuts... People can get a damned nice PC for $500 ... Apple's Intel-based iMacs start at $1299.

 

Yes, premium gaming systems are retailed at $5k or so, but this market is dominated by Windows... there's really no blazing gamer's system of choice in the Apple line. (I get 11fps in WoW on my Mac Mini with all the graphics options turned low.)

thrunner
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Link works, but Dvorak is still a little nutty, although he did say the idea came from a psychology professor at Rutgers :dev: He is right about the sentence below where hardware and program support is key to the popularity of an OS

Will Apple Adopt Windows?

ARTICLE DATE: 02.15.06

By John C. Dvorak

As someone who believed that the Apple OS x86 could gravitate toward the PC rather than Windows toward the Mac, I have to be realistic. It boils down to the add-ons. Linux on the desktop never caught on because too many devices don't run on that OS. It takes only one favorite gizmo or program to stop a user from changing. Chat rooms are filled with the likes of "How do I get my DVD burner to run on Linux?" This would get old fast at Apple.

Beringer
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Dvorak's rantings always looks at least semi-possible at a first glance, and only become bollocks later when they have time to "settle in"!

 

But then it's too late, pcmag have gotten it's page hits and it's €0.01 in advertising revenue, and JD will get his paycheck at the end of the month, and it seems to be all he's after.

 

I read him for the entertainment value only..

Urbz
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well windows + MANY tweaks to make it run perfectly on macs + the aqua GUI and other such stuff + Dharma = in a wired way, still Mac OS. Maybe mac os 11? who knows, but i think it'll always be "mac", even if it's not at heart.

 

Windows can be changed to run great on many computers, and nobody cares what runs UNDERNEATH: a windows core VS a Unix core... and just imagine if that core is optimized!

 

In short, windows core with apple's extras (which includes GUI and the capabilities to run mac apps) is as much "windows" as Mac os X is Unix: it's exactly the same thing. I don't care if it's Unix or OS/2 or Windows or Dos or Linux or friggen Palm OS, as long as it runs great, and offers me the same premium Mac experience I'm used to.

 

-Urby

Hourglass
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I would buy an upcoming intel 64 mac so that I could have Vista on one drive and OS? on the other. Mac I will use for its stability purposes and whatnot that is practical, and Windows for its gaming abilities. Who-ya! This is what I call the personal computing revolution, individual customization over corporate standards! Multi-tasking come home to momma! Don't you just love this stuff! After-all, life is meant to have fun or I would kill myself flat. Ciao

Earl Spanner
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When I read this column at first I said, no way. What is interesting is that Dvorak did not come up with this on his own.

 

Still think it is a little out there and more likely that Intel/Apple would merge or JV on it, rather then Apple/MS.

 

Having said that, Apple is a fantastic H/W company , I love OSX, but I run windows as well and would not mind running it on Apple H/W.

eichenbrenner
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how old is the internet? it´s seriously used by the masses from around the millennium. the same is with os´s. broadly computers are spreaded in housholds and offices just for 10 years. and sometimes computer developments are very fast: suddenly firefox appeared and bashed market shares of the internet explorer away. it´s very speculative what will be with windows, osx or linux in 3, 5, 10 years. what we can foresee: we will still have computers: more / faster / cheaper and more user friendly ones, dissipating less electricity.

jesse steffen
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I think Steve Jobs would rather die than give into Bill like that. The artical did have some intresting points, but I think apple would stop making computers before they would ever put windows on their machines. Yes, a few new people will buy a mac because it now has windows, but it would lose way more users than gain. I for one would never buy a mac with windows on it, now THAT would be an overpriced mac.

 

Though I do wonder what will happen once Jobs is no longer with us.

fOZf8
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I'm maybe apple is building up to a point where they can optionally seperate their OS from their PCs...oh god, thats the first time I've ever referred to a Mac as a PC, lol.

 

It just seems like a solid doorway to sell their OS to an open platform. Apple isn't very financially well off...not at all. Whatever theory anyone has that will yield the highest cash return is the top canidate IMHO.

 

However, I've still never understood what was really going on last year when the Xbox 360 was being displayed, freakishly being powered by G5s hidden behind the consoles...!!!

compu-tor
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Dvorak has made a carrer of stirring it up. His articles are opinion, altho usually based in something he has heard or dug up. Refrence his article in 2003 that said in no uncertain terms... Apple will switch to Intel processors in the next 18 months. Horrors! You would have thought he had said Steve Jobs was the AntiChrist. I think, he was capitializing on his deserved "I told you so", while enjoying the backlash among Apple fanatics that this could actually happen.

 

I think Steve Jobs would rather bankrupt the company, than put anything Windows on his boxes.

 

By the way, now that Apple is using Intel processors on their computers, does it make them PeeCees? :gun:

henchman
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Let's be honest.

Apple isn't really an OS. It's a GUI for Unix.

Kinda like KDE etc, for Linux.

 

Mac's are for people who need to buy gear to give them an identity.

 

I showed the guys at work (audio-post facility) OSX running on my dualbooting laptop.

All are diehard Mac users, and they all said that they might as well buy a PC for half the price, and run MacOSX on that.

Urbz
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why would anyone buy an iPod...

 

that's a mac product in the pc world winning through looks, not function... oh well has the scroll wheel but all other features are wAACk!

 

OMG!!!

have you ever owned an ipod? Have you ever used one for even a few hours?

Looks have a lot to do with it's success, but not all of it. Features? All the features of the ipod, like everything else by apple, are there because they are convenient or really in-demand. There are players with more features, but many are just things you'll never use.

Also, there's ease of use. Everything helped make the ipod number one, but the iPod experience REALLY sold it, and so just as it is made to work easily and for everyone absolutely seamlessly, it is made to look good for the same reason. But yeah, itunes and the iTMS and the iPod TOGETHER are what sold this amazing gadget.

 

don't believe me? Go out and buy an iPod. It's a part of the apple experience, after all.

ampTK
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Let's be honest.

Apple isn't really an OS. It's a GUI for Unix.

Kinda like KDE etc, for Linux.

 

Mac's are for people who need to buy gear to give them an identity.

 

I showed the guys at work (audio-post facility) OSX running on my dualbooting laptop.

All are diehard Mac users, and they all said that they might as well buy a PC for half the price, and run MacOSX on that.

 

1. Apple isn't really an OS, is a company

2. Mac OS is a OS, based upon NeXT (a BSD, therefore a UNIX), later called OpenSTEP, and now Darwin.

It's code is Open Source, they release it, The name of that project is Open Darwin

3. Aqua isn't really an OS. It's a GUI for OS X. (i guess some people would accept if you said Aqua is a GUI of Darwin)

 

It's if you could buy Windows or download the absolute basics of it but with does basics still working independently.

 

 

 

Now a couple of thoughts about what you said

 

About the whole identity thing, that's a completely subjective affirmation, so I will reply with one of my own:

Apple offers with Macs computers that have a great design both ascetically and from the engineering stand point, and also offers a highly stable, secure and modern, wile been aesthetically pleasant. And people are willing to pay a premium for that experience.

 

People who have used macs for years eventually felt identified with it's premises (Good design, ease of use, any "values" you can think so), like some people are identified with the premises of linux or Free Software in general.

 

But I doubt long time Mac users buy Macs to have an identity, I do know some people that buy Macs (or iPods) because a supposed status related to it or to "look cool", but they are going to leave their PowerBooks(or MBP) and ipods at first sing of another popular gadget.

And yes, the most people affirm that the most important thing of a mac is it's OS (I agree completely) but i guess those coworkers of yours are not so diehard after all...

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