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Stravaganza
Stravaganza
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Thanks for the suggestion. I wasn't clear enough. I don't have anyone I need to help. I was speaking in general.

 

GA-945GCM-S2C seems just good as GA-945GCMX-S2. Here's a summary of comparison.

  • - GA-945GCM-S2C uses Realtek 8101E, which doesn't support gigabit ethernet.
  • - GA-945GCM-S2C uses ALC662, which is not listed in the Genius bar. HCL says it needs AppleAzaliaAudio.kext. I am not sure this kext is related to support all six channels.
  • + Newegg claims GA-945GCM-S2C supports maximum 4GB memory (while Gigabyte says 2GB). But it's not really an advantage because we know GA-945GCMX-S2 supports 4GB.

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Lester56
Lester56
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Based on variables found on the preferred motherboard of choice, GA-945GCMX-S2, I searched NewEgg.com based on:

  • 775 socket
  • 945GC Northbridge
  • ICH7 Southbridge
  • Cost between $25 and $50

I found some amazing deals and interesting boards. I am going to add these to my wish list:

  • Intel BLKD945GCPE
  • MSI 945GCM5-F ($26.99)
  • BIOStar 945GC Micro
  • PC CHIPS P17G

All of these are open box so the prices are not typical. Although, i will buy a couple of these and test.

 

Lester

nJoy
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Thanks for detailed explanations!

Now, I am completely new to Hackintosh, so I've got many questions, and the first one:

 

1 Copy of a properly prepared Brazilmac disk

1 Copy of the Kalyway boot prepare cd for Leopard

I have downloaded kalyway_leo_10.5.1.iso - 4,699,717,632 bytes. Now, I definitely need to get "properly prepared Brazilmac disk"? Right? If true, that means I have to download another 6 GB DMG original leopard DVD and patch it with some Brazilmac patch? Is it necessary? If not, what's the difference?

 

Thanks, for help.

Stravaganza
Stravaganza
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I have downloaded kalyway_leo_10.5.1.iso - 4,699,717,632 bytes. Now, I definitely need to get "properly prepared Brazilmac disk"? Right?

@nJoy,

No, you got a wrong one. There are one CD image and one DVD image out there both packaged by Kalyway. What Onetrack mentioned is the CD image, which makes HDDs bootable under Apple HFS+ system using MBR. What you downloaded is Kalyway's DVD compilation of Leopard, i.e. it has the Mac OS X with updates and patches and it allows users to use either MBR or GPT.

 

There are three possibilities I see.

  1. If you want to use what you have already, which is perfectly fine by the way, then you won't need anything else and you can simply follow Kalyway's instruction right away.
  2. If you wish to follow Onetrack's guide using MBR, you need download both images. You may download BrazilMac patch linked in BrazilMac's guid here (the size is about 13.4MB) and download Kalyway's CD with name "Format & Make Bootable HD for Leopard.iso" (the size is about 200MB) from torrent sites, and purchase Mac OS X v10.5 original. Then follow BrazilMac's guide and Onetrack's guide.
  3. If you wish to follow Onetrack's guide using GPT, you do the same as the second option except that you don't need Kalyway's CD.

Good luck.

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deleted_account
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  1. you won't need anything else and you can simply follow Kalyway's instruction right away.
  2. If you wish to follow Onetrack's guide using MBR, you need download both images. You may download BrazilMac patch linked in BrazilMac's guid here (the size is about 13.4MB) and download Kalyway's CD with name "Format & Make Bootable HD for Leopard.iso" (the size is about 200MB) from torrent sites, and purchase Mac OS X v10.5 original. Then follow BrazilMac's guide and Onetrack's guide.
  3. If you wish to follow Onetrack's guide using GPT, you do the same as the second option except that you don't need Kalyway's CD.

 

Would the #2 method be the best way closest to like installing leopard on a Mac Pro minus making the hard drive bootable...? The configuration I'm trying to succeed in is finding the most stable route, I have a retail Leopard from my recent MacBook Pro purchase, Ideally, I'd like to just format my primary hard drive to be HFS+ and booting of my reatil Leopard cd. It seems like your recommendations are the best methods out there, so far...

 

And what are the major benefits of Vanilla kernel and why doesn't everyone go with vanilla?

Stravaganza
Stravaganza
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Would the #2 method be the best way closest to like installing leopard on a Mac Pro minus making the hard drive bootable...? It seems like your recommendations are the best methods out there, so far...

And what are the major benefits of Vanilla kernel and why doesn't everyone go with vanilla?

@gramarye,

I answer to your last question first. Virtually everyone with Intel processor, I think, uses the vanilla kernel except those who use ToH distribution for hacked kernels to squeeze more juice from processor or driver interfaces. The virtue of vanilla kernel is that you can fully utilize all the benefits of Apple Mac OS architecture under assumption that the vanilla kernel cannot be further optimized (without penalty in performance). Obviously this is not true for Hackintosh due to different hardware details but we don't have enough resources to produce corresponding hacked kernels whenever Apple publishes new ones. So we make a sacrifice a little bit in performance for the stability over kernel updates. Further we may pay some more penalty cost at the interface between the kernel and hardwares, i.e. kexts. What surprises us is that such penalty is negligible in Leopard. It is undetectable for most of benchmark programs. (Just to be clear those who claims their Hackintosh outperforms Machintosh using vanilla kernel (1) bypass some kexts or something in kexts which Apple architectures thought necessary, which is perfectly fine as long as it makes a sense because Hackintosh has different hardware, (2) have a better hardware than a Mac which they are comparing to, or (3) choose the better result over several runs in benchmarking process to publish.)

 

Back to the first question, to my best knowledge, it was BrazilMAC of OSx86 Scenes who proposed the second option. He only needed Kalyway's CD to make his HDD bootable, which is absolutely necessary for Hackintosh on MBR. The third option is really close to Machintosh native installation scheme and is better than the second method because GPT (GUID Partition Table) will eventually dominate everywhere and GPT has a significant advantage over MBR (Master Boot Record), which is age-old and has significant limitation in the context of the HDD capacity nowadays. The sign of such dominance is manifested by Leopard itself and Vista. Apple is moving from APM (Apple Partition Map) to GPT for its partition scheme since Intel transition has started. I should mention that the first option really includes the rest of them.

 

I wonder how you manage to use non-retail Leopard DVD, which comes with your new Mac, to make a BrazilMac patched DVD. As far as I know, the non-retail DVD checks the hardware to see if the machine comes with itself. I know that if all you want is applications on the DVD, there's an application retrieving them. But in your case, it's the operating system. I am really curious how it's gonna turn out. Please let me know.

 

Hope I answer to your questions. If not, sorry.

--S

deleted_account
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@gramarye,

I answer to your last question first. Virtually everyone with Intel processor, I think, uses the vanilla kernel except those who use ToH distribution for hacked kernels to squeeze more juice from processor or driver interfaces. The virtue of vanilla kernel is that you can fully utilize all the benefits of Apple Mac OS architecture under assumption that the vanilla kernel cannot be further optimized (without penalty in performance). Obviously this is not true for Hackintosh due to different hardware details but we don't have enough resources to produce corresponding hacked kernels whenever Apple publishes new ones. So we make a sacrifice a little bit in performance for the stability over kernel updates. Further we may pay some more penalty cost at the interface between the kernel and hardwares, i.e. kexts. What surprises us is that such penalty is negligible in Leopard. It is undetectable for most of benchmark programs. (Just to be clear those who claims their Hackintosh outperforms Machintosh using vanilla kernel (1) bypass some kexts or something in kexts which Apple architectures thought necessary, which is perfectly fine as long as it makes a sense because Hackintosh has different hardware, (2) have a better hardware than a Mac which they are comparing to, or (3) choose the better result over several runs in benchmarking process to publish.)

 

Back to the first question, to my best knowledge, it was BrazilMAC of OSx86 Scenes who proposed the second option. He only needed Kalyway's CD to make his HDD bootable, which is absolutely necessary for Hackintosh on MBR. The third option is really close to Machintosh native installation scheme and is better than the second method because GPT (GUID Partition Table) will eventually dominate everywhere and GPT has a significant advantage over MBR (Master Boot Record), which is age-old and has significant limitation in the context of the HDD capacity nowadays. The sign of such dominance is manifested by Leopard itself and Vista. Apple is moving from APM (Apple Partition Map) to GPT for its partition scheme since Intel transition has started. I should mention that the first option really includes the rest of them.

 

I wonder how you manage to use non-retail Leopard DVD, which comes with your new Mac, to make a BrazilMac patched DVD. As far as I know, the non-retail DVD checks the hardware to see if the machine comes with itself. I know that if all you want is applications on the DVD, there's an application retrieving them. But in your case, it's the operating system. I am really curious how it's gonna turn out. Please let me know.

 

Hope I answer to your questions. If not, sorry.

--S

 

 

Thanks for the extensive response. It was really necessary for me to understand more clearly.

 

Whichever option is more Macinstosh Native would be the best option, but may not necessarily be reliable right? Based on your info, the 3rd option would require only 2 CD/DVDs: (1) Brazilmac Patch [the patch that would make your primary hard drive formatted and ready for a Leopard DVD right?] (2) Leopard Retail. Having these, I would follow Onetrack's GPT guide. All this is just further confirmation. Thanks.

 

Also, where Can I find Onetrack's GPT guide? I seem to only find the MBR.

 

 

As i searched, I found this, Would this be inferior to the Onetrack method: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...4472&hl=GPT

Stravaganza
Stravaganza
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the 3rd option would require only 2 CD/DVDs: (1) Brazilmac Patch [the patch that would make your primary hard drive formatted and ready for a Leopard DVD right? (2) Leopard Retail. Having these, I would follow Onetrack's GPT guide. All this is just further confirmation. Thanks.

Also, where Can I find Onetrack's GPT guide? I seem to only find the MBR.

Yes to the first question. But your description of BrazilMac patch in (1) is not right. If you are going to use GPT, you don't need to format HDD before hand. The job of BrazilMac patch is to copy retail Leopard DVD and modify the copied image such a way that a non-Mac Intel machine can boot with it and can install unmodified retail Leopard on the non-Mac system. (Hence you need the post patch step, which really shows how your system differs from Macs.)

 

There's no Onetrack's guide with GPT option. For this matter, I suggest you read this, especially (1) the whole section F explaining how to format HDD with GPT option and install unmodified Leopard and (2) a part of section G showing how to install EFI v8.0. For the replaced kexts in section G, you follow Onetrack's guide.

 

Once the system stable and usable, you may want to read about GFX strings in Netkas's forum to further reduce the number of modified kexts. You can fix the video, the audio and Time Machine without modified kexts.

 

Good luck.

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BALTHA
BALTHA
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ASUS U1 series working with leopard everithing works with not so casher instal with kalyway dvd excet from yet wifi, input sound cf mike, output jack sound, but get sound from laptop hp,

 

share of knowledges about this chirurgical weird case more than welcome

 

c.u

deleted_account
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Yes to the first question. But your description of BrazilMac patch in (1) is not right. If you are going to use GPT, you don't need to format HDD before hand. The job of BrazilMac patch is to copy retail Leopard DVD and modify the copied image such a way that a non-Mac Intel machine can boot with it and can install unmodified retail Leopard on the non-Mac system. (Hence you need the post patch step, which really shows how your system differs from Macs.)

 

There's no Onetrack's guide with GPT option. For this matter, I suggest you read this, especially (1) the whole section F explaining how to format HDD with GPT option and install unmodified Leopard and (2) a part of section G showing how to install EFI v8.0. For the replaced kexts in section G, you follow Onetrack's guide.

 

Once the system stable and usable, you may want to read about GFX strings in Netkas's forum to further reduce the number of modified kexts. You can fix the video, the audio and Time Machine without modified kexts.

 

Good luck.

--S

 

You are great, thanks for all this. And yes, I will report back to the community which installation method I choose, and how I managed. Thanks.

 

Just wondering, any particular method you recommend, based on your personal recommendation.

Stravaganza
Stravaganza
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Maybe it is a good time to find out what motherboard (other than Gigabyte GA-945GCMX-S2) is out there and perfect for Onetrack's guide.

Here's a try. ABIT LG-95 seems to be a perfect fit for Onetrack's guide. Its form factor is microATX and the usual price is 69.99 USD but right now it's 49.99 USD (until 15 February 2008 29 February 2008 31 March 2008) after rebate from Newegg. On-board subsystems are identical to those of Gigabyte GA-945GCMX-S2 including bridges. The specifications and reviews follow:

All the hardware specifications are there except the LAN and audio CODECs. The LAN CODEC is Realtek 8110SC (Gigabit Ethernet) and the audio CODEC is Realtek ALC888. Hope this helps.

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paplu
paplu
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100% Successful Installation On ASUS P5k

Thanks for the help guys.

Thanks Kalyway....

 

With core quad Q6600 the mac pro rockes!!!!!

 

Any question with similar motherboard ... PM me

 

You guys helped me to set up now its my turn

 

Mau

discmeister
discmeister
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Asus P5B VM

Intel Core2Duo E4500

2Gb Kingston 533Mhz DDR2 RAM

250Gb Maxtor serial HDD

Optiarc serial DVD/RW

Asus 7300GS silent PCI-E graphics card

 

All works straight out of the box with Kalyway 10.5.1 DVD, with Vanilla kernel ticked on the installer and nVinject.

 

Sound works, networking works, firewire works, USB works, Leopard sees the DVD writer's capabilities etc.

 

V chuffed - many, MANY thanks to everyone who has worked on this project and supplied information via this forum.

 

If anyone has any questions about this install, they can PM me.

 

Discy

Stravaganza
Stravaganza
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how do i tell if a laptop has SSE2 or SSE3 without running that program?
  • If you have the laptop, then do the following. On Microsoft Windows, you can download and run CPU-Z to see which instruction sets are supported. On Linux, /proc/cpuinfo file contains the information.
  • If you don't have it but if you can go to the store with Internet connection, then download CPU-Z and run it to see. (You don't need an administrator privilege to do so.) Then delete CPU-Z.
  • If you don't have it and cannot go to the store with Internet connection, then go to Newegg.com and search with SSE3 to get a list of processors supporting SSE3 instructions. And check it out with mobile processors that you are interested in.

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betzalel
betzalel
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Dear All (in particular Stravaganza),

 

I have a problem and, perhaps, a solution:

 

The system:

MSI G31M mother board

Intel e4500 Core 2 Duo

2 GB OCZ ram

500 GB WD SATAII hd

LG SATA DVD burner

GMA 950 graphics

Realtek network

160 GB IDE drive (which I can remove, but is currently running XP pro)

 

I have also set up my BIOS as per DuNe (at least as far as the options exist

 

The problem:

The MSI motherboard.

Depending on which install method, I get:

a: Kalyway 10.5.1 - the endless reboot after the initial load of all the modules

b: iAtkos and flat image - multiple dependencies on ACPI

c: I haven't tried BrazilMAC yet, but when the download completes, I expect the same.

 

The possible solution:

I also have an Intel MacBook (running Tiger), a USB adapter which will connect the SATA drive on the PC to the MacBook (I have done this), and a Leopard retail install disk.

 

My intent is to run the Leopard install on the MacBook with the SATA/USB drive as the target, then patch the kexts (or the hex strings if I figure it out), move the drive back to the PC and boot.

 

Will this work? I know I can just try, but I, in particular, want to know what I am likely to break on the MacBook, which is not expendable.

 

All the best

drewsipher_X
drewsipher_X
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Well judging by the previous posts alot of hacking and cracking went into this, my hats off to you guys. Aewsome job.

 

Was pretty easy and painless for me.Thanks!

 

Just installed the Kaliway dvd with no options execept mbr boot.

 

Went in smooth as silk, cept for the TV out problem works well.

 

Been looking for a reason to upgrade and think I've found it..anyone know the best pci-e card with dual support would be?

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