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gd666gd1
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Hello I need Help, I can't handle Vista Anymore and want to install mac os on my pc

 

pc spec

<h2 class="r">Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600</h2><h2 class="r">ASUS P5N32 SLI

</h2>XFX NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB DDR3

2 x IDE Samsung 250gb HD

2 x 1gb Corsair PC2-6400(400 mhs)

ASUS DRW-1814BL

 

Now i have tried both iAtkosv1 and update v1.02 and Kalway Leo 10.5.1intel sse2 sse3

the best i have achieved so far is the mac loading screen, have not made it to the installing part at all, have tried it on four diffrent machines with diffrent part.

 

Any Help Would Be Fantastic

cebep
cebep
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i solve my problem

 

mac os version:

not yet set

 

 

boot from dvd

 

backup original 10.5.1 kernel

run sh brazilmac postpatch script

boot to leopard

 

replace patched kernel to original

replace applesmbios from pc_efi8 pack

 

reboot

Fatherless One
Fatherless One
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I was just searching around a place the rhymes with "Byrate Day" and did a search for "format make bootable hd". This should help you all in your search for Kalyway.

 

Extra wink wink wink!! :P:D;)

 

-Stell

 

It's not there anymore :P

gd666gd1
gd666gd1
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Hello I need Help, I can't handle Vista Anymore and want to install mac os on my pc

 

pc spec

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600

ASUS P5N32 SLI

XFX NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB DDR3

2 x IDE Samsung 250gb HD

2 x 1gb Corsair PC2-6400(400 mhs)

ASUS DRW-1814BL

 

Now i have tried both iAtkosv1 and update v1.02 and Kalway Leo 10.5.1intel sse2 sse3

the best i have achieved so far is the mac loading screen, have not made it to the installing part at all, have tried it on four diffrent machines with diffrent part.

 

Any Help Would Be Fantastic

Maconvert
Maconvert
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Read my Signature! All of my working hardware is listed there. Same as OneTrack's.

 

Hi Lester,

 

I have a question regarding your DVD burner.

Are you able to burn DVD's using the disk utility that comes with Leopard as part of the operating system, or do you need to use a 3rd party application to do this?

 

The reason I ask is because I found this website that lists replacement/upgrade hardware that you can use on "actual" Macs, in this case I searched for DVD drives for the Mac Pro (which is probably the closest match to the Hack Pro that you built and what I plan to build).

 

This is what they had to say about your DVD burner:

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Pioneer/DVR112DBK/

 

I'm planning on buying the Pioneer DVR115DBK which is pretty much the same burner but a little bit faster. I'm having a bit of trouble finding the 112. In any case, the web page for the 115 is almost the same as the 112 (see --> http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Pioneer/DVR115DBK/).

 

They both contain this message:

 

"OWC NOTE: At this time, there is no native support* for this drive when using Mac OS X. Dual layer DVD burning is supported using the following software (Separate Purchase Required)"

 

I'm hoping that, if Leopard doesn't handle this natively on real Macs (which seems to be what the OWC guys are saying), then the BrazilMac patch will take care of it so that it will work on Hack Pros.

 

Please let me know what your thoughts are on this.

 

Cheers.

kroviken
kroviken
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Note:

There are now MANY confirmed people on the forum running 10.5.1 - please read through for various board issues and how they were overcome

 

Confirmed installations :

 

Onetrack, Stellarolla, Doug The Impaler, jngletiger_im, Macmaniac, flibblesan, Brywalker, bigvalboa, bigcletus, eleavampas, elfdood, sojasMAC, sticman, Ho11ywood45, Memphis2K, Replicant, SwissTurbo, Pepes01, Plas, abeltcb, rpmsquita, BJoestein, Chinasky, steadyboot, decilling, Yoshiko Washima, Weaksauce12, sdmac, jzaw, smorf, sjeezo productione', Geofferooney, Mooo, DJChaos82, Replicant, Stravaganza, Riot, RFMan, Lester56

 

 

Direct link to my video because I know you all want to see it :(

 

 

 

Congrats guys - hope you like your new Hack Pro's :)

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Hi Folks,

 

Here is a quick how to which will be fleshed out over the next little bit as to a full installation method for Leopard with a properly created Brazilmac disk, the Kalyway Make Boot CD for Leopard and the kexts you need for a perfect system.

 

First off, see my sig for the computer used in this build, YMMV but I picked up my motherboard for 56.00 and its well worth it.

Note - terminal commands are bolded

Items you will need:

1 USB Flash drive (that you know the volume NAME of) NOT formatted as NTFS - IMPORTANT!

If the flash key is ntfs, the installer will not see it. Format as Fat32 first, then put the files you need on it.

 

On the USB key, put the following items, unzip where needed.

pc_efi V5.2 (its the latest)

 

NOTE PC_EFI V7 is now out and includes grub - we are testing this solution to see if we need the kalyway disk still

 

dsmos.kext

AppleSMBIOS.kext

NVinject for Leopard (only if you have an Nvidia based card, if not - ignore any references in the guide to NVinject)

 

1 Copy of a properly prepared Brazilmac disk

1 Copy of the Kalyway boot prepare cd for Leopard

 

First make sure your assembled computer is able to boot off the DVD drive, insert the Kalyway cd and press any key to boot the cd when you are prompted.

 

After about 5 minutes you will come to a slimmed down tiger install, go to Disk Utility and partition, prepare your drive as you require.

Once you are happy make a note of what you called the drive, it will be the [Volume Label] and you will need to know it during patching later.

 

When the disk utility completes, exit it and continue through the installer, there will be 1 package already selected, install it and you are done.

 

Reboot with the BrazilMac dvd in place of the Kalyway disk, same procedure - it will take about 20 minutes to fully boot to the install screen, go have a drink or some food while you wait.

 

At the installer do NOT use disk utility, instead continue with the installer, make sure CUSTOMIZE is selected and DESELECT all packages (Printers, Fonts, X11 etc) that you can, just install the bare system. If you want to have the system check your installation media go ahead, otherwise skip - it takes about 10 minutes.

 

Once the installation is complete you will have to shutdown the computer manually, power on, and again boot into the installer (again, another 20 minutes or so).

 

In the installer, this time go to Utilities -> Terminal. At the #prompt cd to /Volumes/[usb drive name] I called mine PATCHER.

 

Now its time to get friendly with the command line, the commands are simple you are changing the location and ownership of the kext files you have on your usb key.

 

Edit:

The first step to do is to remove the original AppleSMBIOS.kext file as you will be putting another in its place and it will not copy over correctly if the one that

was installed by Brazilmac exists. skipping this step may cause your computer to have a stop error on bootup.

 

You can do this by typing in

rm -rf /Volumes/[Volume Label]/System/Library/Extensions/AppleSMBIOS.kext

 

first: dsmos.kext

cp -R dsmos.kext /Volumes/[Volume Label]/System/Library/Extensions/

then AppleSMBIOS.kext

cp -R AppleSMBIOS.kext /Volumes/[Volume Label]/System/Library/Extensions/

Optional if you have an Nvidia card:

cp -R NVinject.kext /Volumes/[Volume Label]/System/Library/Extensions/

 

Now chown the lot of them:

chown root:wheel /Volumes/[Volume Label]/System/Library/Extensions/dsmos.kext

chown root:wheel /Volumes/[Volume Label]/System/Library/Extensions/AppleSMBIOS.kext

chown root:wheel /Volumes/[Volume Label]/System/Library/Extensions/NVinject.kext

 

And change permissions

You can change the permissions of all of them at the same time

cd /Volumes[Volume Label]/System/Library/Extensions/ [enter]

chmod -R 755 dsmos.kext AppleSMBIOS.kext NVinject.kext

 

And delete the CPU Power Management - Netkas says its useless and removing it hasn't hurt my system at all.

 

rm -rf AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement.kext

 

 

It is time to patch EFI/Bios - the command is pretty straight forward, but you will need to know your RDISK information - if you don't know, at the terminal prompt type enter -

 

mount [enter]

 

it will spit back information like this:

/dev/disk0s2 on /Volumes/Storage 500 A (hfs, local, journaled)

/dev/disk2s2 on /Volumes/Storage 500 B (hfs, local, journaled)

/dev/disk1s1 on /Volumes/LEOPARD (hfs, local, journaled)

 

The Volume label you are looking for is the one you installed Leopard onto earlier.

 

At this point, you should exit terminal and load up disk utility

unmount the drive that you installed LEOPARD to, when done exit disk utility and go back to terminal to your USB drive

 

cd /Volumes/[usb drive name]/pc_efi [enter]

 

type the following:

./startupfiletool /dev/rdiskXsX ./boot_v5 [enter]

where rdiskXsX is the drive and slice identifier you saw in the mount command

 

in my example, mine is disk1s1 (just put an r in front of it)

 

It should write about 7 lines of text, and exit.

 

Quit Terminal.

 

Now back to Disk Utility, and do a repair permissions on your drive, this is optional, but it probably won't hurt - safe to do and it might save you another 20 minute bootup into the installer just to do this.

 

Shutdown your computer, power on, eject the disk - and if all goes well you are now booting a completely unmodified kernel right to the welcome screens.

 

Once at the desktop check to see whats working - if you have a realtek based motherboard, like the one in my signature - you should have internet, audio will not yet be working most likely - if you have the Gigabyte 945GCMX-S2 You can seek out and add in the ALC888 patch now to get all 6 audio ports functioning (including audio IN). You can't reboot now, if you try the computer will HANG, you must shutdown and manually restart if you need to.

 

When ready to patch up your system to 10.5.1 - simple use the software update tool, when it completes manually shutdown - bootup but when you see the DARWIN bootloader hit F8 until you get a prompt and boot in single user mode with -s [enter]

 

At the prompt you must type in:

fsck -fy [enter]

this will verify and repair any permissions that the update altered.

 

when its done, power off - reboot

 

check your system profile, if all is well, it'll look like this:

 

Hardware Overview:

 

Model Name: Mac

Model Identifier: Mac Pro

Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo

Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz

Number Of Processors: 1

Total Number Of Cores: 2

L2 Cache: 4 MB

Memory: 2 GB

Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz

Boot ROM Version: Hack.int.0sh

Serial Number: LALALALALALALALLA

 

 

YOU NOW HAVE A MAC PRO !

 

EDIT: TIME MACHINE FIX

 

To fix Time Machine, you need to get the modified file IONetworkingFamily_581.zip from the usual places,

unzip it onto your desktop, and navigate to /System/Library/Extensions - Right click or Command Click to show package contents. Then further navigate to Contents --> MacOS and drop the file there simply replacing the old one. You will be asked to Authenticate, enter your password to do so.

 

Of course we need to go into the command line again for proper permissions, open terminal and type the following.

sudo su [enter] put in your password when prompted.

cd /System/Library/Extensions/IONetworkingFamily.kext/Contents/MacOS/ [enter]

chown root:wheel IONetworkingFamily

chmod 775 IONetworkingFamily

 

And you are done ! TIME MACHINE is now fully working :)

 

 

 

Have fun - you have a Vanilla Kernel and the machine will rock.

 

post pix of your builds :)

Any questions - let me know.. I'll constantly edit this guide

 

Special thanks to my buddy Stellarolla who stuck with me through 6 hours of broken installations until I finally gave in and got the Kalyway disk (GET IT, none of this will work without it.)

 

Of course thanks and greets out to Netkas for making PC_EFI work, Torque for sticking with us and answering questions, EVERYONE involved in the grand exchange of ideas for making this house of cards actually work :)

 

You know who you are.

 

Benchmarks - my comp VS a 20" core2duo imac

 

 

 

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Sleep and restart fixes:

in collloquay you need to connect to a server,

 

irc.osx86.hu port 6667

 

when you're logged in type

 

/j #leopard

 

and it will join the channel #Leopard - in the topic, click the down arrow on the right, and you will see clickable links to sleep and restart

 

Once you get the two zip files, and unzip them to your desktop you will have AppleACPIPlatform and IONetworkingFamily

 

What you need to do is leave them on the desktop, navigate to /System/Library/Extensions in finder, right click on both of those kexts, and show contents.

 

so in /System/Library/Extensions/AppleACPIPlatform.kext/Contents/MacOS/ you will see AppleACPIPlatform - drag the new one on your desktop into this folder and overwrite the file that is there, you will have to authenticate.

 

in /System/Library/Extensions/IONetworkingFamily.kext/Contents/MacOS/ you will see IONetworkingFamily - drag the new one on your desktop into this folder and overwrite the file that is there, you will have to authenticate.

 

 

Once you've overwritten both files, its time to go into terminal,

sudo -s [enter] you will be asked for your password.

 

cd to /System/Library/Extensions/AppleACPIPlatform.kext/Contents/MacOS/

chown -R root:wheel AppleACPIPlatform

chmod -R 755 AppleACPIPlatform

 

cd to /System/Library/Extensions/IONetworkingFamily.kext/Contents/MacOS/

chown -R root:wheel IONetworkingFamily

chmod -R 755 IONetworkingFamily

 

If you did it all correctly, sleep and restart now works. You must reboot first.

Also, if you have the same motherboard as I, go into bios, press ctrl+f1 for advanced bios settings and turn on HPET 64 bit mode, plus set your sleep settings to S3

 

all should be good.

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Also, this motherboard is confirmed to support 4 gigs of ram!

I replaced my 2 gig of ocz gold with 4 gig of 2x2 sticks of ocz platinum, bios only sees 3.4 gig, but osx sees all 4 and uses it stable !.. right on.!

 

where can i get brazilmac? i've search all over place but none... i wanna build one...

Maconvert
Maconvert
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Hi Lester,

 

I have a question regarding your DVD burner.

Are you able to burn DVD's using the disk utility that comes with Leopard as part of the operating system, or do you need to use a 3rd party application to do this?

 

The reason I ask is because I found this website that lists replacement/upgrade hardware that you can use on "actual" Macs, in this case I searched for DVD drives for the Mac Pro (which is probably the closest match to the Hack Pro that you built and what I plan to build).

 

This is what they had to say about your DVD burner:

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Pioneer/DVR112DBK/

 

I'm planning on buying the Pioneer DVR115DBK which is pretty much the same burner but a little bit faster. I'm having a bit of trouble finding the 112. In any case, the web page for the 115 is almost the same as the 112 (see --> http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Pioneer/DVR115DBK/).

 

They both contain this message:

 

"OWC NOTE: At this time, there is no native support* for this drive when using Mac OS X. Dual layer DVD burning is supported using the following software (Separate Purchase Required)"

 

I'm hoping that, if Leopard doesn't handle this natively on real Macs (which seems to be what the OWC guys are saying), then the BrazilMac patch will take care of it so that it will work on Hack Pros.

 

Please let me know what your thoughts are on this.

 

Cheers.

 

Hold everything!

 

Check out this link:

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Panasonic/SW9585BEH/

 

This one does NOT have the "no native support" disclaimer.

 

This website, "Other World Computing", is great.

http://www.macsales.com/

This is a great place to research parts for your new Hackintosh.

They will tell you what after-market hardware works and what doesn't and then you can either buy it there or somewhere else.

 

:(

 

Cheers.

raidmarji
raidmarji
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Hi AllTons of Pages and Required DVDs along with patches, headaches ...etc.Anyone can upload a working image for Leopard Based on the gigabyte GA-945GCMX motherboard ? so By restoring this image every thing will work within a couple of hours.This will make life easier :)Hi AllTons of Pages and Required DVDs along with patches, headaches ...etc.Anyone can upload a working image for Leopard Based on the gigabyte GA-945GCMX motherboard ? so By restoring this image every thing will work within a couple of hours.This will make life easier :)

Stravaganza
Stravaganza
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Maybe it is a good time to find out what motherboard (other than Gigabyte GA-945GCMX-S2) is out there and perfect for Onetrack's guide. The reason of this proposal is three fold:

  • Retailers don't carry Gigabyte GA-945GCMX-S2 anymore
  • The price on eBay for it is ridiculous and
  • The number of people with success (in the first post) stopped some time now.

I am sure that there are people who used different motherboards with Onetrack guide to install their OS X v10.5 maybe with different sound patch. Let's find one and keep this thread meaningful.

--S

Maconvert
Maconvert
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Hi,

 

Apparently the motherboard that I have (Intel D975XBX2) is one of the best mobo's for OSx86 (at least that's what I've heard. I haven't tried it yet).

 

Here are some links that lead me to that conclusion:

 

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...amp;hl=D975XBX2

 

://http://forum.insanelymac.com/index....p;hl=D975XBX2

 

://http://forum.insanelymac.com/index....p;hl=D975XBX2

 

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...mp;&do=findComment&comment=310321

 

http://web.mac.com/jcossar/Computer/For_Sale.html

 

Cheers!

Nano07
Nano07
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Hi,

 

Apparently the motherboard that I have (Intel D975XBX2) is one of the best mobo's for OSx86 (at least that's what I've heard. I haven't tried it yet).

 

Here are some links that lead me to that conclusion:

 

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...amp;hl=D975XBX2

 

://http://forum.insanelymac.com/index....p;hl=D975XBX2

 

://http://forum.insanelymac.com/index....p;hl=D975XBX2

 

://http://forum.insanelymac.com/index....p;hl=D975XBX2

 

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...mp;&do=findComment&comment=310321

 

http://web.mac.com/jcossar/Computer/For_Sale.html

 

Cheers!

 

 

 

 

I have D975XBX2KR. I used Weaksauce's guide (he's releasing v2 of the guide soon) and It works great!!! :-)

 

Full config in my signature.

 

 

cheers

Maconvert
Maconvert
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I have D975XBX2KR. I used Weaksauce's guide (he's releasing v2 of the guide soon) and It works great!!! :-)

 

Full config in my signature.

 

 

cheers

 

Hi,

 

Did you follow this guide?

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...ic=76014&hl=

 

Please let me know.

 

Cheers!

iwish
iwish
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QUICK QUESTION: Can the hackintosh run demanding programs like LOGIC 8, Reason 4, and Pro tools music studios on a pc desktop or preferably laptop? I can do without wifi, onboard camera, etc, but must have stable audio, attach a midi keyboard and external sound card via usb.

 

ONE MORE THING: If this is doable, i checked the hcl and cant tell which hardware is the most stable/compatible. Was hoping to run this on an hp, dell or other laptop or might consider building a desktop something like tainted_c0bra who has an m-audio keyboard hooked up and most stuff working... Any direction on the most compatible hardware other than the obvious stuff.

Stravaganza
Stravaganza
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@Lester56,

What's your point? I didn't ask what motherboard is capable of running Leopard. --S

@Maconvert,

Thanks for trying to provide supports for your claim. All except the last link are broken though. :P --S

 

@all,

Maybe I wasn't clear enough.

 

I am trying to find some motherboard other than GA-945GCMX-S2 such that the cost and the number of patches are minimized while all on board subsystems are as rich and recent as possible. (I know this statement is subject to one's own point of view. But we could agree that certain motherboard such as GA-945GCMX-S2 is a better choice for Leopard than others.)

 

I, who successfully installed Leopard on GA-945GCMX-S2 and enjoys this operating system, don't want to see new comers spend unreasonable amount of time and money for GA-945GCMX-S2 just because it's well known to work (for example, search on Amazon with GA-945GCMX-S2 and see what accessaries are proposed by Amazon, and yes, two Leopards and one Vista) and because bottom feeding professionals on eBay ask ridiculous amount for it. We got this ride almost for free because Stellarola took a risk for purchasing this motherboard and Onetrack wrote a guide for it. It's time for us to spend some time to find another board and give this fabulous ride back to the new comers.

 

dsmos.kext, AppleSMBIOS.kext, Time Machine fix, and Restart fix are required for all motherboards. Besides these four patches, GA-945GCMX-S2 requires only two patches, which are the on-board audio card and on-board video card. I think it's quite a small number of patches and the original retail cost was quite cheap. (Compare this number of patches to that of BrazilMac's. It is quite a difference which implies the robustness of this board under updates.) On a good side, this board has gigabit ethernet, while it doesn't have firewire on a bad side.

 

I am simply asking you to report here nice motherboards (possible one for ATX and one for MicroATX) if you ever come cross such motherboards. There are hundreds of people in this forum at any given time. I am sure that someone found some really nice board. It would be nice if you report the model number along with the cost and the number of patches. :)

--S

Maconvert
Maconvert
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@Lester56,

What's the your point? I didn't ask what motherboard is able to run Leopard. --S

@Maconvert,

Thanks for trying to provide supports for your claim. All except the last link are broken though.--S

 

@all,

Maybe I wasn't clear enough.

 

I am trying to find some motherboard other than GA-945GCMX-S2 such that the cost for the motherboard and the number of patches are minimized while all other subsystems on board are as recent as possible. I, who successfully installed Leopard on GA-945GCMX-S2 and enjoys this operating system, don't want to see new comers spend unreasonable amount of money for GA-945GCMX-S2 just because it's well known to work (for example, search on Amazon with GA-945GCMX-S2 and see what other items were purchased by people who bought this motherboard) and because bottom feeding professionals on eBay ask ridiculous amount for it. We got this ride almost for free because Stellarola took a risk for purchasing this motherboard and Onetrack wrote a guide for it. It's time for us to spend some time to find another board and give this fabulous ride back to the new comers.

 

dsmos.kext and AppleSMBIOS.kext are required for all motherboard. Time machine and Restart fixes are also required for all motherboard. Besides these four patches, GA-945GCMX-S2 requires only two patches, which are the on-board audio card and on-board video card. I think it's quire small number of patches and originally the cost for the board was quite cheap. On the good side, this board has gigabit ethernet, while it doesn't have firewire on the bad side.

 

I am simply asking you to report here nice motherboards (possible one for ATX and one for MicroATX) if you ever come cross such motherboards.

--S

 

Hi Stravaganza,

 

Maybe I'm missing something (which is likely the case) but aren't you looking for a motherboard "other than Gigabyte GA-945GCMX-S2"? The Intel D975XBX2 is a bit on the pricey side, but it does have firewire and, apparently, results in one of the least hassle-free installs of OSx86.

 

Hope this helps you out.

 

Cheers!

Lester56
Lester56
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@Lester56,

What's your point? I didn't ask what motherboard is capable of running Leopard. --S

 

uuuhhhmmmm, I was trying to be helpful and point out the other motherboards tested against the vanilla kernel, WITHOUT patching.

 

Sorry to have bothered you!

Nano07
Nano07
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Hi,

 

Did you follow this guide?

http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?sho...ic=76014&hl=

 

Please let me know.

 

Cheers!

 

 

Yes! Although that guide didn't work for me 100% because I think I have a defective Brazil Mac DVD.

 

Instead I used Kalyway 10.5.1 Full DVD and I worked like a charm. (very quick and no hassle install) if you check my posts, I wrote the method I used step by step.

 

Everything works except for Internal Mic (I use $5 a usb MIC). Ahh, and haven't tested the second SATA controller. I've heard it works for some people and not for others (I only have 3 SATA disks and a SATA DVD, so I connect that to the first SATA controller).

 

I hope it helps :-)

Stravaganza
Stravaganza
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Maybe I'm missing something (which is likely the case) but aren't you looking for a motherboard "other than Gigabyte GA-945GCMX-S2"? The Intel D975XBX2 is a bit on the pricey side, but it does have firewire and, apparently, results in one of the least hassle-free installs of OSx86. Cheers!
Yes for the first question. For the second question, I couldn't read articles for D975XBX2 because of broken links. I saw the price though. ;) --S
I was trying to be helpful and point out the other motherboards tested against the vanilla kernel, WITHOUT patching.Sorry to have bothered you!
Thanks for trying. But wouldn't it be nice to name the board if you really know for sure instead of pointing the list of motherboards known to be capable of running Leopard? When you presented the link, I saw a few entries saying no patch required but couldn't find single motherboard among them using Onetrack's method (which really is a variant of BrazilMac's) or BrazilMac's method. I don't know why you mentioned vanilla kernel all of a sudden but it is for granted in Leopard (unless one uses hacked kernel to speed up his processor) for virtually every installation method including Onetrack's and it is even irrelevant to what I asked. When I brought up this hunting for a replacement motherboard, I said using Onetrack's guide ... to make this thread meaningful. Did you verify that any of those reported motherboards in HCL 10.5.1 with no patch is also no patch required under Onetrack's method by reading posts (or by any other means) or you just saw no patch required and threw it here? Fuzzy reading and answering only pollutes the forum. You and I wasted four posts now. I apologize if I hurt your feeling. --S

 

P.S. To be clear, those motherboards in HCL 10.5.1 with no patch using compilation distributions such as Kalyway's or iAtkos really do patch with known working kexts or drivers for Mac OS X v10.5.1 although the process may be transparent to a user. Later if Software Update breaks the working system, the user is forced to remember or figure out what patches were applied to and he, who possibly never searched nor applied a patch before due to the ease of these fabulous distributions, now needs to find a working patch and apply it, or simply wait an updated distribution. In that sense, Onetrack's method is low-level but honest in showing the number of patches. That's why I am looking for a motherboard under Onetrack's method which requires as few patches as possible.

Lester56
Lester56
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Yes for the first question. For the second question, I couldn't read articles for D975XBX2 because of broken links. I saw the price though. :wacko: --SThanks for trying. But wouldn't it be nice to name the board if you really know for sure instead of pointing the list of motherboards known to be capable of running Leopard? When you presented the link, I saw a few entries saying no patch required but couldn't find single motherboard among them using Onetrack's method (which really is a variant of BrazilMac's) or BrazilMac's method. I don't know why you mentioned vanilla kernel all of a sudden but it is for granted in Leopard (unless one uses hacked kernel to speed up his processor) for virtually every installation method including Onetrack's and it is even irrelevant to what I asked. When I brought up this hunting for a replacement motherboard, I said using Onetrack's guide ... to make this thread meaningful. Did you verify that any of those reported motherboards in HCL 10.5.1 with no patch is also no patch required under Onetrack's method by reading posts (or by any other means) or you just saw no patch required and threw it here? Fuzzy reading and answering only pollutes the forum. You and I wasted four posts now. I apologize if I hurt your feeling. --SP.S. To be clear, those motherboards in HCL 10.5.1 with no patch using compilation distributions such as Kalyway's or iAtkos really do patch with known working kexts or drivers for Mac OS X v10.5.1 although the process may be transparent to a user. Later if Software Update breaks the working system, the user is forced to remember or figure out what patches are applied and he, who possibly never searches nor applies a patch before due to the ease of these fabulous distributions, now needs to find a working patch and apply it, or simply wait an updated distribution. In that sense, Onetrack's method is low-level but honest in the number of patches. That's why I am looking for a motherboard under Onetrack's method which requires as few patches as possible.
I admit (fully) that I am not an expert in this arena, although I offered a small step in finding a possible replacement motherboard. And I deeply appreciate your detail writing on the subject. I will be in the position to build another Hack soon which I will use to drive my TV in place of an AppleTV. I will also be looking for a replacement mobo because I recently purchased the last Gigabyte board (945GCMX-S2). Sorry!If we can go down the Wiki list I am willing to purchase 3 mobo and test them against the latest Kalyway single DVD method in March if you and others will assist in answering questions along the way or participate in testing mobo's as well (?) We could create a new thread and begin fresh, looking into the very latest simple mobos on the list.My feelings we never hurt....I thought you were having a bad day. We all do.
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I admit ... We all do.

Thanks for your understanding, Lester56. I appreciate that. I won't be needing any motherboard for a while but I wanted to help someone who is in the market and wants to use Onetrack's guide. Because we have GFX strings for fixes instead of modified kexts, I thought we could reduce the number of patches even further. That's what I had in my mind when I proposed the hunting. --S

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