Zyxel615 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 CONGRATULATIONS!!!! Man am I jealous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 We dont need all of the ATI drivers, just /System/Library/Extensions/ATINDRV.kext since that's the framebuffer device. I believe it should work with the drivers we already have for CI/QE/OpenGL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myzar Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 I'm interested in the yukon driver but prolly 10.4.4 kexts will refuse to work on 10.4.3 the iokit ver has been bumped while the kernel ver hasn't so there's a little chance they would work let's see what happens hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 We dont need all of the ATI drivers, just /System/Library/Extensions/ATINDRV.kext since that's the framebuffer device. I believe it should work with the drivers we already have for CI/QE/OpenGL. So, you think this will quickly provide a way to enable the full use of some ATI cards on "unsupported" hardware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigxcpu Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Yes, we have the drivers. Buggy. Mouse artefacts, grabled moving windows at 1400x1050 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 bofors, all we really need is the frame buffer device (ATINDRV from 10.4.4), the low level functions that are missing right now and are being replaced by IONDRVFramebuffer generic support. That's why there's mouse tearing and all the other glitches. sigxcpu, what's buggy, the new drivers? myzar, as long as the functions are there then as they say "where there's a will - there's a way" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blinksilver Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 I hate to push the this, but i have a been waiting for this for some time now. forgive me, but how are the nvidia drivers looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigxcpu Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 @omni: no, the 10.4.3 drivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 (edited) blinksilver, my understanding is that NV driver has not changed in 10.4.4, but I could be wrong (do not have 10.4.4 x86 yet to test) Just do what I did, get a cheap ATI 9600 Pro for under $100 and use it until NV drivers come of age. Edited January 16, 2006 by omni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigxcpu Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 did the imac guy leave the building, like elvis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 (edited) sigxcpu, what's buggy, the new drivers? I assume he was talking about currently best state of ATI support on 10.4.3 (which lack the framebuffer kext you have requested). EDIT: This threading is moving fast... Edited January 16, 2006 by bofors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segr3do Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Yes BlinkSilver... and waiting 2.... lol.. nVidia Drivers.. I think its the Drivers most Wanted right now.... =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blinksilver Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 (edited) i would love to get a cheap ati card, but its for my laptop. Kinda funny too, its the sony s460, the first generation of the S with a nvidia card, the ones that came before it had an ati radeon 9700. oh the irony. Edited January 16, 2006 by blinksilver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrana Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 (edited) No incentive to have better x86 nvidia drivers yet for them. Anyway, keep this thread on the topic the OP started, please. And we don't need a chorus of "me too, I want the ATi drivers". Edited January 16, 2006 by cyrana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 (edited) bofors, all we really need is the frame buffer device (ATINDRV from 10.4.4), the low level functions that are missing right now and are being replaced by IONDRVFramebuffer generic support. That's why there's mouse tearing and all the other glitches. So, theoretically there should be no EFI-issues here as you will still being using BIOS ATI drivers? Edited January 16, 2006 by bofors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 perhaps there's a way to force ati frame buffer to work with nvidia, it's a long shot but low level functions are not so different, what's different is memory maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heesey1010 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 did the imac guy leave the building, like elvis? maybe he went into shock just being able to get into the xp installer lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigxcpu Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 yes, but we are dying here waiting to trash our working ATI drivers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 (edited) Just do what I did, get a cheap ATI 9600 Pro for under $100... If this works, that will be the best value ATI card to get? An ATI 9600 Pro? Edited January 16, 2006 by bofors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyboy Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 plz plz plz plz plz can we borrow your ati drivers bro ill even buy em off you lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 If this works, that will be the best value ATI? card get An ATI 9600 Pro? I got one of those ATI 9600 PRO Atlantis AGP with 256MB RAM, sub $100 and CI/QE/OpenGL supported. I did not want to spend more than $100 when I already have a GF6800GT that I paid $400+. So, if you have a good NVidia card, this will be a decent replacement till NV happens on OS X... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 (edited) did the imac guy leave the building, like elvis? Hey, Elvis is not supposed to leave until the game is "over'. bofors, all we really need is the frame buffer device (ATINDRV from 10.4.4), the low level functions that are missing right now and are being replaced by IONDRVFramebuffer generic support. That's why there's mouse tearing and all the other glitches. So, theoretically there should be no EFI-issues here as you will still being using BIOS ATI drivers? Edited January 16, 2006 by bofors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigxcpu Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 The framebuffer is an internal device to draw to. The driver is the link between the OS and EFI, so we should be ok on this side. Let's hope the ABI didn't changed in 10.4.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 (edited) Hey, Elvis is not supposed to leave until the game is "over'. So, theoretically there should be no EFI-issues here as you will still being using BIOS ATI drivers? Someone has posted a kextstat dump from 10.4.4 and there was the ATINDRV.kext in the listing. That is the frame buffer NDRV that we need, which contains all the Video BIOS functions usually contained in the Mac ATI cards' ROMs. Basically these functions deal with screen setup, available resolutions (through I2C EDID probing of the attached display, hardware cursor, memory mapping etc). Edited January 16, 2006 by omni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigxcpu Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Yes Omni.. your right... I have a expensive nvidia card 2... and Im thinking to buy some ATI only to get QE/CI .. etc... but... hope someday nvidia have a good drivers for intel mac ... =|If Nvidia dont "wake up".... will lose many users to ATI ... Those "many" users are the OS X x86 hacked version. Are you sure that their number will affect nvidia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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