Alessandro17 Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9785337-7...p;subj=NewsBlog http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/windows/microso...oems-303067.php Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreakyMac Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 They Should Abandon vista, Microsoft is going to be tredding water to survive when vista fails like Microsoft Bob Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-457901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Poor Microsoft. Trapped in the awkward phase of Vista days... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-457903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apowerr Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 They Should Abandon vista, Microsoft is going to be tredding water to survive when vista fails like Microsoft Bob They should abandon NT its old as hell. Do what Apple did, sacrifice compatibility, but make a great product. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-457904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2planker Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 For an OS that was 5 years in the making, and is basically an attempt to copy OS X, i was pretty disappointed when you compare it to how good Leapord looks Then again i can't afford a macbook So that is why i resort to OSX86 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-457910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted September 27, 2007 Author Share Posted September 27, 2007 They should abandon NT its old as hell. Do what Apple did, sacrifice compatibility, but make a great product. Absolutely. And besides they could put a compatibility layer on top of it. If Wine/Crossover can, Microsoft which has all the code, could do it a lot better. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-457916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminaire Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 They should abandon NT its old as hell. Do what Apple did, sacrifice compatibility, but make a great product. Agree'd Absolutely. And besides they could put a compatibility layer on top of it. If Wine/Crossover can, Microsoft which has all the code, could do it a lot better. Agree'd Thing is, how would a non-NT windows look like? I can't imagine anything without a wacky unorganized start menu. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-457924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Hurt Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Yeah, I think they should abandon NT too. It's become too messy to work with and modify to add new features. Just check the code that leaked from windows 2000. They should start from scratch and make a great new OS. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-457940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted September 27, 2007 Author Share Posted September 27, 2007 Thing is, how would a non-NT windows look like? The issue is not what it will look like. It could look in line with previous Windows releases. The issue is "the beating heart" of the OS. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-457942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminaire Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 That might be true, but I think functionality is quite linked to looks. Like font smoothing. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-457992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLiDE FTW!!1 Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Microsoft should just take a build of Ubuntu and make it compatible with Windows' previous software. And they'd call it, Windows Visbuntu. Catchy, ain't it? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-458089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted September 27, 2007 Author Share Posted September 27, 2007 Microsoft should just take a build of Ubuntu and make it compatible with Windows' previous software. And they'd call it, Windows Visbuntu. Catchy, ain't it? The trouble with that is: everybody would want their favorite distribution. I want openSUSE Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-458105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TvvqKMZ72bsklauw5 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Owned. Truely Owned. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-458144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
waradmin Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Whether Vista is a blunder or not is irrelevant to me being as it cost me less than $10 for the Ultimate edition I lost nothing getting the OS. However I do feel bad for those who paid retail. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-458169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster37 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 They should of waited another year and polished it and made it something besides XP2 or ME+. I mean its a pretty GUI and I like that part of it but it is so slow and clumsy. Windows 7 looks even more of a OSX copy. We will see what happens. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-458216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecker Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I think they should just give up developing operating systems altogether and concentrate on the applications. hecker Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-458222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Nonny Moose Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I agree with removing legacy code in OS-es now. That seems to be the newest trouble with regards to virus writing. While Vista is an improvement in security, it isn't enough. I feel that this "sandbox mode" Vista gives users will be exploited very soon (if it hasn't been already). Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-458308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhsh8r Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 uhhhm microsoft has so much money...... that basically nothing could kill it at this point i dont give a {censored} if their next 3 os's tank still have alot of $ Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-458350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Yeah, but it's not going to happen. MS has invested too much time and money in Vista already. Look how long and difficult it was for Apple to replace their OS. And tey had the advantage of controlling all their hardware. Not going to happen, Apple will take over eventually. I almost laughed out loud the other day when I saw how slow Vista was on my friends Core 2 Duo laptop. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-458351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro17 Posted September 28, 2007 Author Share Posted September 28, 2007 I think they should just give up developing operating systems altogether and concentrate on the applications. hecker That is a great idea. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-458390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLiDE FTW!!1 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I almost laughed out loud the other day when I saw how slow Vista was on my friends Core 2 Duo laptop. Not to defend Microsoft or Vista in any way, but a clean version of Vista on my computer runs faster than any copy of OS X on any mac that I've ever seen. I guess it depends on configuration, but on my rig Vista is unbelievably fast with the bells + whistles on (Aero). It's probably all the {censored} that the manufactures bundle with the OS that make it slow. Errr, or terrible drivers. My mobo came with "Vista Premium drivers", what ever the heck that means. Anyways, the whole "clumsyness" of Vista is a per-user experience. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-458394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
waradmin Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I agree with the above. I have a MacBook (see spec's in sig) and Vista Ultimate clean ran FASTER than OS X. And to be honest my OS X has more hiccups than Vista (random short lock-up moments). And what bugs me is that people take old (pre-vista) hardware and complain when it goes slow. I have a 3.0GHz Pent. D, 4GB RAM, 600GB SATA HD, and Vista Ultimate runs PERFECT. People complain too much. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-458506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synaesthesia Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 HERESY!!! Just kidding, guys, I've actually heard similar comments, so I won't argue with you. I haven't even tried Vista on my rig yet, I will do and then I'll make some real comments. However, even XP can get really slow when you install many programs. Windows starts out fast, and then gets slower. I'm happy coz with 2 harddrives nearly full and lotsa apps install, OS X still runs beautifully. Anyway, I say when Leo comes around, Vista will get pwned. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-458529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
waradmin Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 HERESY!!! Just kidding, guys, I've actually heard similar comments, so I won't argue with you. I haven't even tried Vista on my rig yet, I will do and then I'll make some real comments. However, even XP can get really slow when you install many programs. Windows starts out fast, and then gets slower. I'm happy coz with 2 harddrives nearly full and lotsa apps install, OS X still runs beautifully. Anyway, I say when Leo comes around, Vista will get pwned. Not a chance in hell. A majority of PC users are afraid of Mac and will never switch. Sad reality, comments saying Leopard will take over are really taken with a grain of salt. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-458543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macmaniac Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Microsoft is still a monopoly. They have been ramming inferior OS down the masses throats for years.... nothing will change.... Its like the big fat cat that everyone likes to kick off the couch. Its grown fat and lazy, so it feels good to kick it off (the Vista complaints), but it always comes back. And you always pay. Most people seem prefer a fat bloated tabby over a lean panther, tiger or leopard...... Vista is XP all over again, except its got makeup on...... ...yup, she's still got a registry.... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/64644-why-microsoft-must-abandon-vista-to-save-itself/#findComment-458770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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