Swad Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 For those holding out for an Intel Mac, don't spend too much this Christmas - multiple rumor sites report that insiders tell them to expect the first Mac based on Intel chips in January. Apparently, Apple wants to surprise the computing world with the new Macs ahead of schedule. This makes perfect sense, especially since the x86 version of the OS has now reached parity (for the most part) with its PowerPC predecessor. From AppleInsider: "Sources say at least one of the two aforementioned Intel Macs appears to be based around Intel's upcoming dual-core 'Yonah' mobile processor, which is expected to top-out at 2.16 GHz in its initial rev. However, further processor specifications remain largely unconfirmed at this time. [...]" "The analyst went on to say that Apple is likely to ship Intel chips inside consumer-oriented products -- like laptops -- first, because the company tends to include with those computers most of the software consumers initially need and want. "I see mostly benefit if applications like iLife are ready for Intel processors," Wilcox added. High-end applications not yet compiled natively for the first Intel Macs will continue to run seamlessly -- albeit slightly slower -- via Apple's integral Rosetta technology." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 This is basically what I have been expecting, the public release of Intel Macs sooner rather than later. But if the statements that x86 10.4.3 is far from PPC 10.4.3 in other threads are true, Apple has a lot off to work to do before January. Otherwise, I am going to very interested to see if Apple sticks with Intel for GPU's in the first round of Intel Mac releases or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swad Posted November 19, 2005 Author Share Posted November 19, 2005 Yeah, I'm curious about the GPU thing too. But, I think that the important thing to realize about the version parity is that while there are still a lot of things that are different, we've gotten to the point now where the essential parts are the same. There will always be differences, so no one will ever be able to say that they're exactly the same. But when it comes to the things that the average user looks at, they won't notice much difference. Give Apple another month to polish and it'll be more than ready. I think that by rolling out one or two low-end models early, Apple gets a lot of good testing and buys some time for them to get it right for the power users as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 The other thing is, that it is very important stragetically for Apple to get this transition over, or rather started in earnest, as soon as possible. We certainly know they are in possition release OSx86 to the public in January. Moreover, I can see Apple taking a nice bite of out the Windows hardware market, like Dell and HP, with these systems, so I am expecting Apple to be more profitable with Intel even in the short term. I suppose we should start to contemplate what version of Tiger, the first public x86 release will be. My guess is that it will be 10.4.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdavy2002 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 What do you guys think about the price? Would it be cheaper than th current imac? With intel based processor, i guess it should be cheaper. What does the forum think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Actually, the rumor-reports indicate that prices will indeed drop. If we actually see Apple sticking Intel GPU's that may be part of the reason why, otherwise it is unclear if Intel has discounted CPU for Apple that much (note, that G4's and G5's are supposed to be very price competitive). Otherwise, I would not assume an Intel iMac will be introduced in the first round, but it certainly is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pcharles25 Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 A dual core iBook would be very powerful. I know there is a intel processor(2006) that will be able to run multiple operating systems at the same time. Something kinda like ZEN... I would love to have a Dual core 2 GIG + Apple Laptop, It will be very powerful. Like everyone mentioned, curious about the GPU... I have a gut feeling that will use a Geforce GO or a ATI Mobil variant. It would be totally stilly to stick with intel GPU, (its {censored}) Apple laptops are known for extended battery life. 4 to 6 hrs... Now that my thought process is going... I bet the first laptops are going to be Power Book, Because They are going to intel for more Power. At this point apple marketing is working because what ever it is people are going to rush to the store and buy one. (mindless consumer) *I JUST GOTTA HAVE ONE* Oooooh a PSP, Oooooh A NANO, Ooooh A iPod Video, Bluetooth phone, Bluetooth Headset, Bluetooth earphones, Hey Steve, Bluetooth Mighty Mouse please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 (edited) Hey Steve, Bluetooth Mighty Mouse please... Yo Stevo... one more thing! How about two f***ing mouse buttons on my next powerbook, you knob! Edited December 17, 2005 by bofors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaupacius Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Pricing will be interesting since they will have similar hardware to PeeCees it will be harder for Apple to explain the mark-up when it's much easier for everyday consumers to check specs. Rather than relying on the mhz myth, theres still no denying the quality , industrial design and OS/software plus ability to dualboot etc. Def be Powerbook and ibook then mini with same specs later down the road as they update the notebooks to higher. A new widescreen display and form factor is what I am expecting. This will be HUGE so I don't think Apple will be able to use this as a test (although what rev 1 prod isn't from Apple hah). If it's not smooth and the price isn't right there will be a lot of bad press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antharian Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Perhaps it's the beer speaking, but a random neuron just fired! How long will it be before we start seeing "Mod Chips" to add to PC boards that will fake the "Tamper proof" OS X? -antharian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templeton Peck Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 ...applications not yet compiled natively for the first Intel Macs will continue to run seamlessly -- albeit slightly slower... "Slightly" is a bit of an overstatement. Surprisingly quick for an emulator would be a better description. Perhaps it's the beer speaking, but a random neuron just fired! How long will it be before we start seeing "Mod Chips" to add to PC boards that will fake the "Tamper proof" OS X? It all depends on how tough a nut the final version of OS X is to crack. Alternatively, it might be possible to make a software abstraction of "Official Hardware" (i.e. a self-contained emulator that requires no host OS) that sits between the real hardware and uncracked copy of OS X. Perhaps these same clever hackers can manage to squeeze such an emulator into the BIOS of select mobos, making everything completely transparent. Or, perhaps I just havn't consumed enough alcohol. Pass me that beer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartman101 Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 all I want is a Mactel motherboard, or a copy of OSX86 that's not restrictive. Hopefully the new macs will be ATX... which I doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarkhos Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 If you want multiple mouse buttons on your PowerBook, use SideTrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjr1028 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 all I want is a Mactel motherboard, or a copy of OSX86 that's not restrictive. Hopefully the new macs will be ATX... which I doubt The closest you'll never see is the modified ATX motherboard in the developer machines. Apple does not believe in dedicated form factors. Not elegant for Jobs & Ives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrana Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 More rumours on this: http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0511macmini2.html Nice, so we have rumours of possible new notebooks as well as the mini. I was expecting the towers (and iMac) to be updated last anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrana Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 (edited) Read this how you will: http://derekpicone.blogsome.com/2005/12/16...el-at-macworld/ Not that I buy that blog. I don't think they'd so obviously 'accidentally' leak info like this to a person like the one at the blog... Edited December 16, 2005 by cyrana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rata911 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Not that I buy that blog. Me neither. But the last laugh is on Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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