Lostgame Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 The Apple TV tech specs page says “Intel processor” and no more. (My guess is that it’s some sort of x86 CPU, and that the guts of an Apple TV pretty much resemble a stripped-down Mac Mini.) But that’s an avalanche of information compared to what Apple has announced regarding the iPhone’s CPU, which is nada. The lack of an Intel shout-out or logo during the keynote led me to believe it was “not Intel”, and Intel itself has officially confirmed that they are not involved with the iPhone. ... Sources familiar with the matter (as they say) hinted to me that the iPhone is powered by an ARM processor. This in itself is intriguing, as it is an entirely new chip architecture that Apple’s operating system is now apparently targeting. ... Apple owned a big chunk of ARM because ARM was the company that supplied processors for the Newton; they dumped it, perhaps, not just for profit but because they didn’t see the need to maintain a stake in a company that produced processors that were useful for things like portable touch-screen communication devices. Whoops. Another theory is that perhaps Apple hasn’t yet decided on exactly which processor to use in the actual production units of the iPhone. June is still pretty far away. And the long shot? What if it’s not an ARM, but a PowerPC (because of, say, power consumption), and in which case Apple doesn’t want to mention it because they don’t want any sort of confusion regarding the still dripping-wet switch to Intel of the entire Mac line-up? Very interesting. I'm putting my money on PPC, actually. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Intel's XScale is an ARM-based processor, but that line was sold off to Marvell last year. Intel have today denied any involvement with the iPhone cpu, so they're out anyway: http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=2379 I'd guess either an ARM-based thing, or some PortalPlayer chip. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-273533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 There's a new job listing for an iPhone developer which lists ARM experience as a requirement... http://jobs.apple.com/index.ajs?BID=1&...p;CurrentPage=1 Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-273538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmanfvrga Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Very interesting. I'm putting my money on PPC, actually. PPC? No offense and not trying to sound mean, but that is dumb. I got a PPC and it is great but why develop something for a chip you have not supplier for? IBM probably just supplies enough chips for the PPC's out there and not for mass production like Intel does. The Intel move is done and new stuff is Intel. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-273599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostgame Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 ^ That's not dumb at all. Intel have stated they're not providing the chips, AND Apple already has an OS for PPC. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-273658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmanfvrga Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Maybe not dumb, but I would be surprised if it is PPC. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-273661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 is there a ppc suitable for a handheld device? i doubt there is. anyway, its an ARM. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-273702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 is there a ppc suitable for a handheld device? i doubt there is. PPC's are often used in the embedded market and the some of them like the G4 are low power devices. So, I bet there were some good choices for the iPhone. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-273753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bofors Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 anyway, its an ARM. Is the iPhone CPU question actually settled yet? Links? EDIT: This still looks unsettled: http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=36857 http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2007/01/20070111035416.shtml Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-273755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaberSHO Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/1/10/6569 definatly not intel...Im not sure about the proc architecture, but this article seems to say it is a Samsung sourced cpu..... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-273777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 There's a new job listing for an iPhone developer which lists ARM experience as a requirement... http://jobs.apple.com/index.ajs?BID=1&...p;CurrentPage=1 surely the job posting suggests its an ARM? also: http://daringfireball.net/2007/01/iphone_arm Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-274279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbz Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 ARM processors are the leading processors for embedded devices, and I'd be surprised if it was anything else. What really confirmed it for me, though, was that the iPod uses an ARM processor, so they are probably going to the same chip supplier. Plus, since the UI is so revolutionary, an ARM processor would enable it to quickly be put onto an iPod, at least in part or based on functionality. I'll bet anyone $100 USD with Paypal that it's an ARM processor! (perhaps even more than one: the first three gens of the iPod had two!) Oh yeah, Samsung is licensed to make/sell ARM processors, and I know they supply the chips for the iPod. Search wikipedia for more info...I'm feeling lazy. -Urby Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-274657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cringemaster Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 So they ported darwin to ARM now.... What else dont we know about apple. First it was keeping an intel port of eveything secret, now theres been an ARM version sneaking around cupertino too! Let me guess, the next thing will be a SPARC port thats been planned for 2012 when we switch again... Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-275704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda200x Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 (edited) Intel do manufacture PDA Processors so I wouldn't be surprised if it was ARM or something (what Windows Mobile runs on?). (iPhone Linux anyone?) Edited January 14, 2007 by Panda200x Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-275716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhsh8r Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 surely the job posting suggests its an ARM? also: http://daringfireball.net/2007/01/iphone_arm why is no one listening to you, its obveously ARM because of that application! Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-275768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertsf Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 PPC is not Suitable Power Wise, for that kinda mobile device. It's Defiently ARM. Why do I say this, go look at any mobile device you have, try not to find a ARM in at least 2 of them. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-275794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Neo Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Cool, I just saw my XDA Neo's TI OMAP-850 Processor has an ARM in it Hm I think the iPhone has an ARM in it too! cYa ~Neo Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-276074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 (edited) APPLE Tv. Specs: Processor 1.0 GHz Crofton (Dothan) 2 MB L2 cache The only thing im allowed to tell ya Edited January 15, 2007 by Nicklas Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-276123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ergosteur Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 so if it's ARM... how about iPhone OS on Intel/Marvell Xscale PocketPCs? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-926699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmdshft Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Wont work because of the bootloader. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/38316-iphone-processor-architecture/#findComment-926798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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