munky Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 AppleInsider reports that Parallels are gearing up to release a new version of Parallels Desktop which will support the ability to boot a Boot Camp partition on the Mac. Amongst the other updates and enhancements are changes to the way USB is handled (no more delays), dynamically resizing the Windows desktop as you resize the Parallels window, and the ability to have Windows application windows appear to be Mac windows, thus blurring the lines between the host OS and the virtualised. Interesting stuff indeed... UPDATE: Its available for download from parallels directly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Wow ! this is gonna be so much better... Hopefuly, it will be out soon, and isn't some speculations... so users don't switch to VMware Fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted December 1, 2006 Author Share Posted December 1, 2006 I tested VMWare Fusion in the hope it would let me boot my Boot Camp install, but alas no... I'll be using whichever one offers this feature first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbert75 Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Munky, looks like available at parallel site: http://forums.parallels.com/thread5997.html not so sure how it will work on a hackintosh "* Boot from BootCamp partition. Another long awaited feature that lets you boot your 32-bit Windows XP residing on Boot Camp partition directly in Parallels Desktop for Mac. IMPRORTANT! You need to boot in your Windows XP natively through Boot Camp and install Parallels Tools for Boot Camp package in it before your first boot in Parallels Desktop for Mac. NOTE! It is not possible to suspend Virtual Machine connected to Boot Camp for integrity reasons." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted December 1, 2006 Author Share Posted December 1, 2006 you're right dogbert - it is indeed available for free download. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proteo Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 WOW!!! The new features looks really impressive. Dl'ing right now! Here’s a short overview of the new features and enhancements introduced by this Beta: * New Look and Feel and Improved Usability. Completely redesigned windows and dialogues to make them even easier and smooth. Too many changes to describe – just check them out yourselves * Virtual Machines Catalogue. A very useful feature for those having more than one VM – now all of them are available through centralized VM catalogue which appears on each Parallels Desktop for Mac instance start in case you have more than one VM * One-click Virtual Machine Aliases: * Automatically created by OS installation assistant or by drag-and-drop from title bar pressing Command-Option keys combination * Clicking on Alias automatically starts the Virtual Machine * Shutting down the VM automatically closes Parallels Desktop for Mac application * Resizable Main Window. Resize Parallels Desktop for Mac main window as you do with any other Mac application * Auto-Adjusting Screen Resolution. Your Windows auto-adjusts the screen resolution to the actual Main Window size. * Drag and Drop files and folders between Windows and Mac. A long awaited feature that lets you seamlessly drag and drop files and folders from Windows to Mac OS X and vice versa. * Read/Write BootCamp partition. Since this build, an Apple Boot Camp partition with Windows XP installed could be used as a virtual HDD for Parallels Desktop for Mac. * Boot from BootCamp partition. Another long awaited feature that lets you boot your 32-bit Windows XP residing on Boot Camp partition directly in Parallels Desktop for Mac. IMPRORTANT! You need to boot in your Windows XP natively through Boot Camp and install Parallels Tools for Boot Camp package in it before your first boot in Parallels Desktop for Mac. NOTE! It is not possible to suspend Virtual Machine connected to Boot Camp for integrity reasons. * Parallels Transporter Beta bundled. Migrate your Windows PC, VMware or Virtual PC VMs to Parallels virtual machines. Please visit Parallels Transporter forum for details. * Coherency. Shows Windows applications as if they were Mac ones. Try it and enjoy best of both worlds truly at the same time. No more switching between Windows to Mac OS. * Improved graphic performance. Up to 50% on different applications. * Connect/disconnect USB devices schema improved. No more “wait 5-10 seconds” message on USB device connecting to Parallels Desktop for Mac. * Up to 5 Virtual NICs. Now Virtual Machine can have up to five virtual network interfaces. * Enhanced Shared Networking Mode. Run Cisco VPN and many other complicated networking applications in conjunction with Connection Sharing Mode. * Switch between networking modes on-the-fly. Switch networking modes while the virtual machine is running. * Transparent mapping of Command-AZXCV key combinations. Now you can also use Mac copy/paste key combinations in Windows. * Power On/Power Off/Suspend/Resume/Pause animation. Just try and see. We’re very interested in your feedback about the feature. * Shared folders configuration on-the-fly. Add/remove/configure shared folders on-the-fly via menu or Status Bar icon without the need to stop your Virtual Machine. * Drag and Drop CD/FDD images and folders to the Parallels Desktop statusbar. Just drag and drop CD or floppy image you want to connect or Mac folder you want to share onto a respective statusbar icon. * And dozens of other not that evident enhancements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrupted Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Doesn't work with server 2003 unfortunately. I overrode the "Windows XP must be installed" box with the /a tag, but then it spit a cryptic dll error at me: "Setup can't find VMLBINST.DLL. Setup can't continue." After googling it, which returned 1 result, yes, 1, I have no idea what the hell this dll is, nor where I could find it(it's not on any other windows installs I have.). Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 AppleInsider reports that Parallels are gearing up to release a new version of Parallels Desktop which will support the ability to boot a Boot Camp partition on the Mac. Amongst the other updates and enhancements are changes to the way USB is handled (no more delays), dynamically resizing the Windows desktop as you resize the Parallels window, and the ability to have Windows application windows appear to be Mac windows, thus blurring the lines between the host OS and the virtualised. Interesting stuff indeed... UPDATE: Its available for download from parallels directly! I read it and maybe i am just dumb but is the use for it? Parallels emulates a vpc and bootcamp boots a real windows, do you get a real windwos with 3D accel graphics etc in Parallels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanbperiod Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 can parallels or vmware on windows boot from other partitions as well? this is a feature i've been waiting for in virtualization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 The joy of being able to boot your bootcamp partition in parallels is that you don't need to reboot for every little thing you might need to pop into windows for, you can pop it up in a window & get things done. Although the speed is close to native,as it is running virtualisation, not emulation, for games or other intensive tasks, you would want to reboot & use the whole machine for windows. Vmware on windows has been able to do this for quite some time, and this feature is used in the popular osx86 "vmware to native" install method described elsewhere on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Ok so I tried it on a real mac, it works, but not on a hackintosh (you can select "Boot from Bootcamp"... hell I couldn't even install the bootcamp package in windows). Anyway, the new Parallels Tools don't work either in my "virtual windows"... Blue screen while booting. Though the new Parallels works if you keep the old Parallels Tools. So my guess is : we hackintosh users, are f***ed up ! Works quite well on a real mac, though I noticed the Windows Messenger window isn't completely cut (ie, I could see a part of my windows wallpaper in OSX)... Too bad EDIT : Never mind, I managed to use the new Parallels Tools... I just had to reinstall them. But you cannot use any Windows partition. Maybe someone will manage to fool Parallels into thinking it was created with Bootcamp... You never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embio Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 is it possible to boot from windows in a triple boot set up? for example if I had Tiger/Leopard/XP or OSX/linux/XP could I boot the XP machine? or would it have to be a 'strict' Boot Camp created partition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 The joy of being able to boot your bootcamp partition in parallels is that you don't need to reboot for every little thing you might need to pop into windows for, you can pop it up in a window & get things done. Although the speed is close to native,as it is running virtualisation, not emulation, for games or other intensive tasks, you would want to reboot & use the whole machine for windows. Vmware on windows has been able to do this for quite some time, and this feature is used in the popular osx86 "vmware to native" install method described elsewhere on this forum. Hm that sounds great indeed, thanks for explaning. Maybe my next comp is a mac now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFNITE Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 this new parallels build is incredible. You can now drag and drop files between Windows and Mac OS X, and overall, it feels alot smoother and more integrated and changing resolution on the fly is really cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 You are damn right, this build is clearly faster. The only letdown is when you move a Window using the Coherence fonction, it's slower than if you are moving in within the Windows GUI in Parallels... Anyway, it's impressive how they improved it in a single build. Did you know you could Hide the Windows Taskbar with Parallels Tools center (in the system tray). Looks even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFNITE Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 one more thing on my wishlist: Expose with Coherence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesce Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Looks like their servers are slammed. I'm having trouble downloading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidplasmaflow Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 I wonder if this Coherence function would work with something like WindowBlinds running on Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbz Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 The coherency will be the reason I switch. I also manage two iMacs at work and they boot into Windows for graphic design (we use Corel, so we need Windows!) and if Parallels lets us run Corel in Mac, this'll be really exciting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgirl Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 is it possible to boot from windows in a triple boot set up? for example if I had Tiger/Leopard/XP or OSX/linux/XP could I boot the XP machine? or would it have to be a 'strict' Boot Camp created partition? Sure I did it with NTLDR, Grub and boot managers like Partition Magic or Acronis, ans someone else did it with Darwin BootLoader. Visit the dual boot thread: http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=4749 or the dual booting at wiki page: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.ph...uides#Dual_Boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroz Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Ok so I tried it on a real mac, it works, but not on a hackintosh (you can select "Boot from Bootcamp"... hell I couldn't even install the bootcamp package in windows). Anyway, the new Parallels Tools don't work either in my "virtual windows"... Blue screen while booting. Though the new Parallels works if you keep the old Parallels Tools. So my guess is : we hackintosh users, are f***ed up ! Works quite well on a real mac, though I noticed the Windows Messenger window isn't completely cut (ie, I could see a part of my windows wallpaper in OSX)... Too bad EDIT : Never mind, I managed to use the new Parallels Tools... I just had to reinstall them. But you cannot use any Windows partition. Maybe someone will manage to fool Parallels into thinking it was created with Bootcamp... You never know... So basically, there is no realistic way to load windows onto a hackandtosh correct? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 retroz: Parallels works. Crossover works. Dual-booting with lilo,grub, darwin bootloader, acronis etc. works. so in short there are very many realistic ways to load windows on a hack. what would make you think otherwise? Somewhat but I've been doing this same thing in hardware for some time, a windows machine attached with firewire, with seamlessrdp on the windows machine & tsclientx on the hackintosh.. works very nicely.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonefr Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 You can use Windows on a hackintosh, just not the Windows you have laying on a partition you use to boot into native Windows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenman100 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 You can use Windows on a hackintosh, just not the Windows you have laying on a partition you use to boot into native Windows... this has to be hackable/patchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroz Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 retroz: Parallels works. Crossover works. Dual-booting with lilo,grub, darwin bootloader, acronis etc. works. so in short there are very many realistic ways to load windows on a hack. what would make you think otherwise? Somewhat but I've been doing this same thing in hardware for some time, a windows machine attached with firewire, with seamlessrdp on the windows machine & tsclientx on the hackintosh.. works very nicely.. Thanks but will these work on HackNtosh? I know bootcamp wont work and I certainly do NOT want to RUIN my stable 10.4.6. Advice and direction appreciated! I of course have a legit XP PRO... Thanks What is crossover? Never heard of some of those! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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