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I am trying to find a replacement for my 2011 13" MBP. And yes, I could go with a new MBP but I would much rather have a tablet. Or to be more specific a laptop that can become a tablet (not the reverse). Basically I don't want a tablet where you can attach an additional keyboard. I want a tablet that has a keyboard integrated (although I am a bit flexible on that). Pen input is also very wanted (probably even more than an integrated keybaord). I am willing to spend max 1300€  (or 1300$) for it. Screen size from 11" to 15". Preferably something aroudn 13".

 

Can anyone think of any possible candidates?

I was looking at something like:

http://www.computeruniverse.net/en/products/90528917/acer-aspire-r7-572g-54208g75ass.asp

http://www.computeruniverse.net/en/products/90513884/sony-vaio-duo-13-sv-d1321x9e-w.asp

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00F2JWM6O/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers

 

I would very much prefer for Apple to make such a thing but I am guessing that this will only happen in my dreams.

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Hi!

I am trying to find a replacement for my 2011 13" MBP. And yes, I could go with a new MBP but I would much rather have a tablet. Or to be more specific a laptop that can become a tablet (not the reverse). Basically I don't want a tablet where you can attach an additional keyboard. I want a tablet that has a keyboard integrated (although I am a bit flexible on that). Pen input is also very wanted (probably even more than an integrated keybaord). I am willing to spend max 1300€  (or 1300$) for it. Screen size from 11" to 15". Preferably something aroudn 13".

 

Can anyone think of any possible candidates?

I was looking at something like:

http://www.computeruniverse.net/en/products/90528917/acer-aspire-r7-572g-54208g75ass.asp

http://www.computeruniverse.net/en/products/90513884/sony-vaio-duo-13-sv-d1321x9e-w.asp

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00F2JWM6O/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers

 

I would very much prefer for Apple to make such a thing but I am guessing that this will only happen in my dreams.

If you want to make a hackintosh out of what ever, and need a functional onscreenkeyboard, you will probably stick with this: http://www.assistiveware.com/product/keystrokes, single unser license 299$. OSX's onscreen keyboard isnt as good as the Win8 keyboard. If you come from a MBP and dont have the nerve and time to hackintosh, and after all the time and afford invested geting a machine that is an 98%-OSXrunner you better look here: http://www.modbook.com/modbookpro

Dont forget, hackintoshing is like giving your dog boots, it is not meant to be, but it works... my2ct

The real burner would be the Surface3, dualboot (trippleboot :D ) hackintoshed, Win8ed, Androided... but that is another story, maybe here around.

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I would probably go with Surface 2 if the wifi was supported. But it isn't, which makes it pretty much useless. And to be honest I really hate the lack of keyboard with surface.

 

All I really want is a good laptop running Mac os that can occasionally turn into a tablet. I would never switch to something that only works partially - I need wifi, sleep, ... I am willing to spend a bit of time tweaking the thing but not too much (more tweaks that you add, harder it gets to update). I am an iOS developer so I am kind of stuck with the Apple ecosystem. I can afford a new MBP but I would also want a tablet. And I really want soemthing that combines both. ModbookPro is a great thing, but the pricing is a total no-no. Even the transformation service is out of my budget.

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...so you could take the trail. But IMHO you wont get such a thing with working WIFI-onboard. Not this year. Or you contribute (if you are a dev) ... and find somone that could port the (in Surface case the Avastar) WIFI-driver.

Just in my case... on my Surface1, i am tweaking for 2-3 months now...not done yet. IMHO it is the ONLY tablet (the Surface-Series) that can handle OSX, and the touch stuff - up to now.

What do you mean with lack of keyboard? The type-cover works pretty good, and with working BT under OSX feel free to get what you want...

If you need a tablet that works 100% included WIFI (sleep works so far on the surface)... your on the wrong way. It is a hackintosh, and will ever be.

 

About tweaking... belongs where you tweak. Config.plist and DSDT-tweaks are persistent, even if you update.    ... so the 10.9.3 update on the Surface1 was straight forward, while on the Surface2, the kernal needed to be patched again. Get used to if you want to hackintosh.

 

I would suggest getting a surfacepro1 (they are discontinued, maybe you get a deal). Keep Win8 on it (it is super, if you look at the touch and pen stuff). Dualboot-OSX. Without internal WIFI - get a dongle. AND get yourself a MacBookAir. So you are happy on both sides. If your budget is bustet...spare or play lotterie.

A hackintosh will never be a "real Mac".

 

If you want to know what we are talking about, just read this thread from the first to the last post. Then you will know what is coming up to you.

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Well I do have a bit of experience with hackintoshes. Some from the old days of 10.4 and some a bit more recent. I've seen a lot of recent computers (they were desktops though) run out of the box without the need for too much hackery (maybe an occasional kext here and there for the wifi). I am just checking if there is some tablet configuration that will work similarly to that.

 

Othervise I am completely happy to wait another year for the tablet market to grow a bit. And hope that Apple makes something similar - which I highly doubt.

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Hmm looks like the Samsung one (look in the Samsung section) is the one to go with, we chan change the internals so we can have a compatible wifi chip like AR5B195 + a propper DSDT patch = Legacy Airdrop + BT :) too bad now combo wifi chips are taking part into our PCs, if only I could keep BT4.0 or at least find a cheap AC+BT4.0 compatible card :/

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I found another laptop convertible: the Asus transformer book flip 13 and 15. The 13 comes with i3/5/7 and hdd/sdd up to 1tb for hdd and 256 for ssd aBand full hd lcd screen, however no pen input. The 15 comes with the same specs but 13xx by 7xx for i3 versions while i5/7 get full hd screens, but looks "SOME" i5 models (probably i7 too) come with Wacom pen and digitizer. The price is still under your max value, look on ebay.

Btw, I have the same requests, if you find any tablet please notice me :) applies to all others, I really need a new hack to work on :)

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I forgot to update this thread.

 

But I did actually find the best tablet/convertible out there - and I bought it. Asus Taichi 31. It has two full HD IPS screens, i7 CPU, 256GB SSD and pressure sensitive digitizer.

 

Sadly running hackintosh on it isn't as easy. Wifi of course doesn't work (but that's only a minor issue). Touchpad seems a bit iffy. And the worst thing - outside (aka tablet) screen doesn't work at all. The screens are actually standard screens and there is nothing special when it comes to switching them. When you install fresh windows on it, they just behave as a standard extended desktop. Sadly I couldn't figure out how to get that screen to work and I just gave up.

 

I've had it for half a year now. And I am actually pretty happy with Windows 8 on it. So I am currently using my Mac for Work stuff and I have the Taichi as my Work/Entertainment computer.

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The internal "laptop" screen works fine. The external "tablet" screen doesn't. I can't get the mac to detect it or display anything. If I boot the thing up with the laptop closed (in tablet mode) then I can see it booting right until when the graphical server is started. Then it just goes blank and that's it.

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Ah the second sceen!!! I just remeber Taichi had two sceens, well damn, and that's obviously expected, no laptop have dual screen, you may tty to inject edid and try to mod your FB to have two lvds in ports (if that's the case) :) maybe we can solve that Saturday? (I will be busy in the next days ;) )

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The internal "laptop" screen works fine. The external "tablet" screen doesn't. I can't get the mac to detect it or display anything. If I boot the thing up with the laptop closed (in tablet mode) then I can see it booting right until when the graphical server is started. Then it just goes blank and that's it.

I just checked and the graphics device is an Intel HD 4000. Try different ig-platform-id's with Clover or IGCapriFB on Chameleon (I think it's that, I don't use Chameleon). The Capri framebuffer kext is probably loading with support for only one LVDS screen (like midi mentioned). I would not recommend patching the FB before trying all ig-platform-id's. There are some very good guides on this site and certain other guides so follow those and try to enable it.

 

If the second screen isn't LVDS then it might be an eDP and you will be out of luck as the Capri framebuffer doesn't support eDP. You can check the connector port by using any of the numerous tools to extract your EDID on Windows. It will tell you what port is being used.

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I've already gone through some of these things when I first got it.

 

The only ig-platform id that works is: IGPlatformID=01660009. No luck with others.

 

And yes, Intel HD control panel shows one display as DisplayPort and the other as Embedded Display Port.

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I've already gone through some of these things when I first got it.

 

The only ig-platform id that works is: IGPlatformID=01660009. No luck with others.

 

And yes, Intel HD control panel shows one display as DisplayPort and the other as Embedded Display Port.

I'm not sure if you will be able to get it to work as the Capri framebuffer has no support for eDP.

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it has, rMBPs are eDPs

I'm going by what Toleda and RehabMan have said.

 

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/281475-display-goes-off-when-appleintelframebuffercapri-is-loaded the guy here seemed to have the same problem and  never resolved it. It is true that the rMBP have an eDP (as confirmed by this thread) but the Capri Framebuffer has it listed as an LVDS connector, there's probably some trickery going on there.

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Hi!

I am trying to find a replacement for my 2011 13" MBP. And yes, I could go with a new MBP but I would much rather have a tablet. Or to be more specific a laptop that can become a tablet (not the reverse). Basically I don't want a tablet where you can attach an additional keyboard. I want a tablet that has a keyboard integrated (although I am a bit flexible on that). Pen input is also very wanted (probably even more than an integrated keybaord). I am willing to spend max 1300€  (or 1300$) for it. Screen size from 11" to 15". Preferably something aroudn 13".

 

Can anyone think of any possible candidates?

I was looking at something like:

http://www.computeruniverse.net/en/products/90528917/acer-aspire-r7-572g-54208g75ass.asp

http://www.computeruniverse.net/en/products/90513884/sony-vaio-duo-13-sv-d1321x9e-w.asp

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00F2JWM6O/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers

 

I would very much prefer for Apple to make such a thing but I am guessing that this will only happen in my dreams.

I think your best bet without over spending would be to buy a dell venue 11 pro, although its not 13 inch i think it would make a great OSX tablet out there (Or wait for a rumored 12 inch ipad pro with a hybrid mac osx)

 

its the most promising out of all and yet cheaper(ebay) --- Got mine with i5 4300Y 256 GB SSD and 8GB ram for 550 U.S.D.. Additionally you need to buy a Broadcom A/C wifi NGFF card for the wifi to be working. costs around 60 - 100 U.S.D ((Got mine for free because apparently my Yoga 3 pro has it, so I will be swapping the cards from DV11Pro and Yoga 3 Pro))

 

the progress is promising : http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/302665-guide-1010-yosemite-on-the-dell-venue-11-pro-core-ix/

 

The tablet is pretty much functional besides the touch screen interface however there is a high hope for the touch drivers to be up soon, Alex.daoud is the one behind porting touch (I2C Touch ) drivers from linux.. as far as I have figured out. 

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Hi!

I am trying to find a replacement for my 2011 13" MBP. And yes, I could go with a new MBP but I would much rather have a tablet. Or to be more specific a laptop that can become a tablet (not the reverse). Basically I don't want a tablet where you can attach an additional keyboard. I want a tablet that has a keyboard integrated (although I am a bit flexible on that). Pen input is also very wanted (probably even more than an integrated keybaord). I am willing to spend max 1300€  (or 1300$) for it. Screen size from 11" to 15". Preferably something aroudn 13".

 

Can anyone think of any possible candidates?

I was looking at something like:

http://www.computeruniverse.net/en/products/90528917/acer-aspire-r7-572g-54208g75ass.asp

http://www.computeruniverse.net/en/products/90513884/sony-vaio-duo-13-sv-d1321x9e-w.asp

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00F2JWM6O/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers

 

I would very much prefer for Apple to make such a thing but I am guessing that this will only happen in my dreams.

 

I don't know if its suitable for OSX but you should check the Lenovo Yoga. It is a solid piece of hardware. My girlfriend has one and I like the minimalistic design and the flexibility of it. You can use it as regular notebook, but you can also bend the display 180° to the back and use it as a tablet. You should check it. Comes in various screen sizes.

http://www.amazon.de/Lenovo-Convertible-Notebook-Touchscreen-clementine/dp/B00KIGT6ZQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1431153139&sr=1-2&keywords=lenovo+yoga

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The ATIV 700T1C is great too, many stuff work oob, including touch since it's usb connected, and sleep, you will need just wacom's drivers for the stylus. Too bad they have some microphone issues with it. The 1080p PLS screen looks good. But one problem is that it has some outdated hardware (i5 3rd gen ULV) and no upgradable ram, the wifi will still need to be replaced, hopefully no whitelisting in the FW, so any card compatible may work. Anyway, I will wait for the a new ativ tablet for this year from samsung, the ativ Q was amazing but they canceled it :( I loved it!

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