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davidm71

Stay away from Paragon HFS+ 9 for Windows!

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This is a repost of a complaint I posted in the Wilders Security Forums which fields Paragon software issues:

 

"Few days ago I installed HFS+ for Windows, then the other day I noticed that my system blue screened upon shutting of siting error in fltmgr.sys. I thus rebooted and went into event viewer ( was hard as bsod were popping up) and saw that some file called uim something .sys was having errors. I googled it and found it to be a Paragon file. To make matters worse I couldn't uninstall it and had data corruption and had to revert back to my last april backup loosing data. This is not good...

 

So I wasn't a hundred percent sure it was that utility so I copied my good partition to another drive on my system and installed the HFS Windows utility again and got an immediate BSOD upon boot! I mean who do these guys hire to do their programming? High school drop outs? Who is doing the beta testing? Is there any quality control here?! This is ridiculous!

 

This is the second issue I have had with a Paragon product in a month. The first being Paragon Partition Manager Pro crashing upon seeing an ntfs - HFS hybrid guid multi parition drive. Had to upgrade to the HDM Suite Pro with a newer engine to fix this problem. So I don't know why I installed this HFS utility considering what happened before, and I can tell you that I no longer trust Paragon with my data. As far as I'm concerned trashing someones drive is a serious offense!"

 

 

I advise any dual HFS NTFS booters to stay away from this product. It is very dangerous!

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I do remember having same sad experience with some of their products (it was a beta HFS driver though). BSODS were very common. Eventually Apple has released HFS driver.

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No problems so far, i'm running Mac and Win versions, some time ago i got BSOD when i tried to write or erase something in HFS+ partitions on win7 because i switched ports on my HDDs but i made a reinstallation of the driver and so far no more BSODs.

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thanks for the warning. Probably some incompatibility with another low-level FS related driver you have installed. I had a similar issue before with my backup software back then, from Acronis or so, which was causing BSODs.

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Hi,

I've recently tried on my dual boot hackintosh ( Lion - Windoz7 ) Paragon HFS+ 9 for Windows because I always need Windows for Bluray ripping & for Solidworks 3D CAD >Result : Blue Screen Of Death after the second reboot on Windoz7.Unable to boot, even if I was trying Safe Mode.

 

I've finally found what we must do :

 

1. Boot on OS X & be sure to have Paragon NTFS installed ( v9.0 is speedy & -at the opposite of HFS+ for Windoz-works like a charm in Lion...)

2.Go to : C:\Windows\System32\drivers\ & delete all files which begin like hfs*.sys

3.Try to reboot your windoz partition : it must be ok.

4.Uninstall HFS+ For Windoz & Reboot now

 

;) Hope it will be helpful for someone of the Hackintosh community

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If you're using a 3TB drive as your primary, and you dual boot on it, your best bet is still Paragon. Even the most current version of MacDrive fails on 3TB drives and will leave you with a 2.2 limit.

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Using Paragon HFS+ for Windows® 10 resulted in two HFS+ devices being corrupted. 


In Windows the volumes are still available read and write, but none of the devices' volumes are available in Mac. Disk Utility sees the devices, the volumes are grayed out, and Disk Utility cannot repair them. 

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Using Paragon HFS+ for Windows® 10 resulted in two HFS+ devices being corrupted. 

In Windows the volumes are still available read and write, but none of the devices' volumes are available in Mac. Disk Utility sees the devices, the volumes are grayed out, and Disk Utility cannot repair them. 

 

10 or 10.2?

 

Which version of Windows - 7, 8, 8.1? 32 or 64 bit?

 

Which partition scheme on the drives - GPT, or MBR, or hybrid synced GPT/MBR?

 

Run DiskWarriror 4.4 to try repair the file-systems.

 

Please report back. Fingers crossed.

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On this hack I'm quite happy with read-only support on both sides. I can copy files from Windows to Mac and vice versa. On Windows I use the Boot Camp HFS drivers. Before this it was TransMac, which I used in read-only mode.

 

I've just heard too many stories over the years of corrupted filesystems and data loss on both sides to trust any of these products.

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Just to balance the debate a little:

 

I've been using HFS+ 9.0 on my Win7 Pro x64  (dual boots OSx 10.6 & recently 10.9) Core2 based hackintosh for a number of years with no issues.

I have previously used MacDrive and that is a PITA.

 

I also use the NTFS driver on the OSX side, also without issues. That said I am mainly in OSX, and I tend to keep my OSX boot partitions on separate physical volumes from my Windows ones, but I have made changes in both directions and sometimes have had a majority of NTFS volumes sometimes a majority of HFS+ ones.

 

I think that as Win7 x64 seems to enforce a signed driver model (and 32 bit does not) that perhaps there is less likely to be anything else messing around at the low level I/O to cause the kind of errors people have seen (though that's just supposition with no evidence). 

 

I started my career in operations for S/370 with people who could read core dumps and patch them on the fly - so I've seen some spectacular losses of data and some amazing recoveries from backups in my time. It seems to me that modern desktop machines contain drivers and s/w in such different configurations that someone somewhere will be an edge case - especially for a product like Paragon's that is expecting to work in the relatively well ordered Bootcamp environment on a limited set of hardware and a known set of drivers.

 

I would always suggest when installing new drivers of this type suggest "running them in" by only reading/writing on a volume (or best still a drive) that you have only temporary/unimportant data on and run a selection of tests of your typical scenarios on before you use them on more serious things - and, at the risk of suggesting people suck eggs, always have a backup; both Windows and OSX have automated backups these days so keeping important stuff in several places is a fire and forget precaution well worth taking.

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I have Paragon EXT & NTFS on my mac with no problm, but think it's a bad idea anyway to mount you mac boot drive as read/writte on windows

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I have destroyed my mac installs more than once with the paragon hfs+ drivers - I am not installing that stuff again!

I am using now exFAT partitions to exchange  data from my mac and windows installs. exFAT can be read natively by both systems.

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I have destroyed my mac installs more than once with the paragon hfs+ drivers - I am not installing that stuff again!

I am using now exFAT partitions to exchange  data from my mac and windows installs. exFAT can be read natively by both systems.

 

Take care that OS X (at least Mavericks) has buggy exfat drivers and might end up corrupting your partition's boot sector.

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oh, I didn't know that. But it worked fine with Mavericks and now I am on Yosemite anyway...

I have 2 SSDs in my computer (one with Yosemite and one with Windows) and then 2 old hard drives formatted with exFAT for storage and file sharing between the operating systems. Works fine for me so far...

On one of the hard drives, I have a small partition with my backup Yosemite install but that seems to be fine as well.

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Trying to recover 50gig music, my iPhoto library and most of my programming stuff.

Paragon should be renamed to Pa Its Gone!!!

What a heap of {censored}...

 

Use OS X disk utility to repair the partition. 

It worked for me when paragon corrupted the partition.

 

If not, then give disk warrior a try.

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JFYI if interested.

I originally had started a TM backup, but it was only 20% thru. when all this started.Was able too recover some files from this.

 

Used DataRescue 4 to recover the data (well done guys), other offerings are S**T IMHO.

 

Recovered my iPhoto/Photos Library (25/25 gig intact), some programming stuff ( back to my INSTAHackintosh days) and some music, and the rest lost thru my stupidity.

Photos and programming stuff were important, the music, well...ahoy me hearties!!

 

Have backup plan implemented using Time Machine, no more "Pa Its Gone" for me..

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Is 10.4 any better?

 

sebus

 

I just installed Windows 10 and Paragon HFS+ 10.4.

After a few reboots because i was getting a BSOD: Something about an unbootable device, i found that the problem lies with Paragon HFS+. 

 

I reverted my Windows back to an earlier state and could boot again. So no, it's still useless. 

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Same thing 

Windows 10 and F*(£)"= Paragon 10.4

 

errors on external hfs+ hdd drive 

and internal hfs+ 10.11 boot ssd drive

I have to admit that I used trim force too... :/

 

P.s.

I was lucky enough to recover most of my data on the external drive...

but the I had to reformat the SSD...

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Stay away from Pargon software... at least on the windows side. MacDrive 10 is the better solution but pricey for my taste, in the mean time I am using the Free DiskInternals Linux Reader as a temporary fix.  It's read only but works.

 

On the OS X side I use Paragon NTFS w/o issue ( it's an older version 9.0.1 but works).

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