embries Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Full story here props to Neowin for pointing it out The essential deal is that if you're going to run Vista on a 32 bit processor there'll be no HD video for you. They made the concession to remove the feature because they couldn't implement a DRM scheme that would not be hacked on the 32 bit architecture the story says. I'm sorry but if I upgraded my XP (home or pro) to Vista and then were disallowed from playing HD content, regardless of the strength of my system to actually play the video (which many 32 bit systems would have no issue playing HD content), I would be highly upset. This one is a very bad call by MS and may come back to haunt them in future. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenVa Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I highly doubt that they will implement this... It is just not a good move... Honestly no good for them could come from this. Lets hope they don't something this stupid. If they do this though... im sure alot of people will start looking at linux / bsd more realisticly as a desktop os. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/#findComment-173717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
embries Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 I highly doubt that they will implement this... It is just not a good move... Honestly no good for them could come from this. So far as I can tell (from that and one other interview) this is a "done deal". Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/#findComment-173784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhsh8r Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Thats stupid.... well.... at least ive got x64.... but i dont like the x64 os cause its still to buggy.... max Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/#findComment-173798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartboy919 Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I didnt read the link but from what i saw on Digg they are just implementing this into WMP 11 and even if microsoft does this. you just know there is going to be a kernel hack Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/#findComment-173850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
non sequitur Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 lol, score one more for osx. but seriously. the macbook pro was shown playing 4 simultaneous hd videos and its a 32 bit processor, correct? i think its funny though that theyre admitting their "most secure os" will be hacked. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/#findComment-173954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollcage Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 maybe next time around they'll get it right.... i've told myself that every release of windows and it hasn't worked yet. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/#findComment-174031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrysaor Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 First of all, OPs post need clarification. It is not just for any HD content, its for protected HD content, that means commercially released BluRay and HD-DVD movies. Your regular unprotected HD videos are not affected at all. Microsoft posted announcement about this issue on the Vista team blog. They are not disallowing any protected HD content in 32-bit Vista. However, just like XP, it is ISVs that needs to support playback of protected HD content. That means if Intervideo, Cyberlink etc.. provides necessary software to play protected HD content, it will play fine under 32-bit Vista. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/#findComment-174112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
munky Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 In other news, Vista, whether 32-bit or 64-bit, will still suck tho Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/#findComment-174176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmanfvrga Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I highly doubt that they will implement this... It is just not a good move... Honestly no good for them could come from this. Lets hope they don't something this stupid. If they do this though... im sure alot of people will start looking at linux / bsd more realisticly as a desktop os. No offense, but that statement is far from true. The main public don't know about Linux and won't use it due to lack of user friendliness (that a word?). OSX HAS HD video with iMovie HD and DV Camcorder capture. You can do it on a Mac Mini so people will be more apt to go to OSX. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/#findComment-174229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabr Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 In other news, Vista, whether 32-bit or 64-bit, will still suck tho Hehe... Well, they have changed quite a few bits of the OS, but I don't think Vista will ever live up to be as good an OS as OS X (86) is. Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/#findComment-174257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
embries Posted August 25, 2006 Author Share Posted August 25, 2006 Microsoft posted announcement about this issue on the Vista team blog. They are not disallowing any protected HD content in 32-bit Vista. However, just like XP, it is ISVs that needs to support playback of protected HD content. That means if Intervideo, Cyberlink etc.. provides necessary software to play protected HD content, it will play fine under 32-bit Vista. Yeah, they kicked that in this morning. Here's one quote. Later Thursday, representatives in the U.S. said that senior program manager Steve Riley was mistaken. "The information he provided to that audience was incorrect," a representative told CNET News.com. "Playback is possible with Windows Vista in 32-bit." and another with pretty much what Chrysaor reports. "It is up to the ISVs providing playback solutions to determine whether the intended playback environment, including environments with a 32-bit CPU, meets the performance requirements to allow high-definition playback while supporting the guidelines set forth by the content owners," And I did mention that the reasoning was because of implementing DRM schemes, which would imply protected content, would it not? The only other common sources of HD content are captured video from your own HD camera, and HD OTA recording through a capture card. I point that out because one of the major things many were looking forward to in Vista is support for QAM and CableCard HD Tuner support in the media center. ATI has been sitting on their CableCard ready tuner for quite a while because of concessions to the industry to not release until Vista is released (because of the stronger DRM schemes and support for HDCP output to monitors, supposedly). Now they're saying the ISV will have to make the call on support for 32 bit chips. Well... Technically its the Media Center Edition of the OS that's controlling the HD Tuner, so wouldn't that be up to MS? Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/#findComment-174268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartboy919 Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Oh, Look who was right!! *raises the roof* Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/#findComment-174680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lkr Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 bam i have a 64 bit processor Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/#findComment-174910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhsh8r Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 bam i have a 64 bit processor :mellow: gotta love it, but i think that xp x64 is much better than vista will be, but time will tell that story max Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/#findComment-175193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Obrien Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 they made a mistake when they said it wont do hod support it WILL do hd Link to comment https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/25681-vista-to-disallow-hd-video-playback-on-32bit-processors/#findComment-175254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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